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| Quote ="rover49"Obviously we need a centre (this year if we can), but we need to beef up the pack for next year, where these will come from is anyones guess.'"
Allgood walker and tilse will be back next season add to that green and Cox i think we would need 1 prop and a quality back rower
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| Kelly and Blair staying for 2016 is good news.
Here's a name to wrestle with. Macauley Hallett. Thought he was outstanding at the end of last year, but not a mention this year. Is he long term jnjured?
Expect we will sign a new centre and a big back rower. I would release Donaldson and Ollett from their contracts on the grounds of size. There are bigger scrum halves than those guys, like Luke Gale for example.
Cox needs to grow a pair and step up.
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| Luke Gale is cackamallabab.
Ollett is small but runs good lines, didn't have a good game on Saturday but should be retained, needs a better hairstyle.
Cox has annoyed me for a at least two and a half seasons, eighteen months ago he seemed to be beginning to fulfill, he was one of the Travis Burns crew who believed his own hype.
He's done nothing this year, and it's so frustrating, he could and should be a top drawer player.
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| Thats good of them, thought they did that when they signed a 2 year deal at the beginning of the year.
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| Quote ="Pickering Red"Kelly and Blair staying for 2016 is good news.
Here's a name to wrestle with. Macauley Hallett. Thought he was outstanding at the end of last year, but not a mention this year. Is he long term jnjured?
Expect we will sign a new centre and a big back rower. I would release Donaldson and Ollett from their contracts on the grounds of size. There are bigger scrum halves than those guys, like Luke Gale for example.
Cox needs to grow a pair and step up.'"
Played his first game on dual reg for Newcastle Thunder against York Friday night and scored a try
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| Quote ="Aldy"Played his first game on dual reg for Newcastle Thunder against York Friday night and scored a try'"
I asked this question on t'other forum as I thought he looked a good prospect last year. The generally feeling from those who'd seen the 19's this year was that he'd gone backwards and wasn't playing well at all. Would be a shame if he doesn't kick on because he looked the right physique for a top flight centre and seemed to know where the line was. Hopefully he'll find his form at Newcastle and can get a place back in the team.
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| Cox has been poor for a while now you begin to realise why he couldn't get a game when we were so low on forwards I'd release him if he doesn't improve
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| Quote ="rover49"Obviously we need a centre (this year if we can), but we need to beef up the pack for next year, where these will come from is anyones guess.'"
I'd add a Fullback to the list of requirements, plus the need for a Hooker if we can't tie Lunt down to a long term deal
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| Quote ="REDEOD"I'd add a Fullback to the list of requirements, plus the need for a Hooker if we can't tie Lunt down to a long term deal'"
Good point, we haven't had a decent full back since Briscoe left us really. Hope Lunt will stay on though, he is one of the top 3 in SL on his day.
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| Quote ="rover49"Good point, we haven't had a decent full back since Briscoe left us really. Hope Lunt will stay on though, he is one of the top 3 in SL on his day.'"
The full back role has changed dramatically since the Briscoe days. I still think Dixon is the long term answer to full back.
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| Lunt won't be here next year and even if he was gonna be surely we should be slightly reluctant about signing somebody who has spent over half the year injured? Our back row needs more. All our players are much of the same? Solid defending workhorse types. Since his injury larroyer has been half as effective as last year which is a shame as he was a real line breaker. Tho he's played a slightly different role this year. We need a full back/centre/prop and 2nd row for next year IMO
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| I guess another headline could've been Kelly and Blair fail to find an NRL side, so they're staying here for 2016. Still, good news innit.
Signing a hooker would be my priority, [size=85as I wastefully typed on the Hull fall out thread.[/size
You have to imagine our plans for the back row next season still involve Blair and McCarthy, so maybe looking @ one new arrival? Larroyer's done a lot of body guard duty this year, but some of his attacking decisions have been stupid, I think we'll want to keep. Horne (still on contract?) Solid+versatile. Cox was obviously unfortunate with his spleen emergency and then whatever his problem was this season. But, his time must be close to be up @ Rovers. Got the size we're all calling for, but doesn't look capable (just 3 carries we got out of him a weekend, did he get injured? Twas' a game I've tried to quickly forget) Ollett, Donaldson, Holker, Esslemont - moving forward probably looking @ keeping 2/3 home grown tags maybe. Assume Burke will be back at Wigan.
Goulding is a blow for all concerned. Welham's return to reasonable form meant he was probably already heading for the retained list, but probably a no brainer now, unless we can snare another decent SL centre.
BC has impressed me recently at fullback. You'd love to find a place for Dixon when you see his express pace, but without injuries I can't see it.
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| Quote ="MagicCarlos"Lunt won't be here next year and even if he was gonna be surely we should be slightly reluctant about signing somebody who has spent over half the year injured? Our back row needs more. All our players are much of the same? Solid defending workhorse types. Since his injury larroyer has been half as effective as last year which is a shame as he was a real line breaker. Tho he's played a slightly different role this year. We need a full back/centre/prop and 2nd row for next year IMO'"
It will be really hard to recruit 4 players in the position mentioned who will improve your squad if you don't have any overseas spots available.
I'm not sure having two overseas props is the best use of quota spots, unless they are top class, their are plenty of good English props and usually a prop only plays half the game, so you would maybe be better using the quota spot on a position that is more pivotal.
Again I'm not convinced by having wingers as overseas players either and you have two. Kelly and Campese are the right players and the right positions to use overseas spots, but I'm not sure on using 4 spots on wingers and props.
Where do you think Lunt will go? Cant see Leeds signing him when they have Aiton, Burrow and Ward on their books.
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| If Bradford go come up, I'd look at O Brien, Sidlow and Ferguson.
Wakefield could also be an option with Mcshane, Scruton and Kirmond.
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| Here's my ideal scenarios for 2016: (salary cap / quota spots permitting)
- Lunt commits to a 3 year deal
- Sio moves to fullback
- Dixon stays on the right wing
- We sign a half decent SL right centre to feed him. Leroy Cudjoe is out of favour at the mo
- We sign 2 big, quick, hard running back rowers in the mould of Louie McCarthy Scarsbrook, Benjamin Garcia or Ukuma Tai'i
- We sign another prop/ big back rower on loan assuming Burke goes back to Wigan
- We offer extensions to John Boudebza, Graeme Horne and Ben Cockayne
- Keep Ollett, but get rid of Cox, Esslemont and Donaldson
- Sign Larroyer to a permanent deal
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| Quote ="Pickering Red"Here's my ideal scenarios for 2016: (salary cap / quota spots permitting)
- Lunt commits to a 3 year deal
- Sio moves to fullback
- Dixon stays on the right wing
- We sign a half decent SL right centre to feed him. Leroy Cudjoe is out of favour at the mo
- We sign 2 big, quick, hard running back rowers in the mould of Louie McCarthy Scarsbrook, Benjamin Garcia or Ukuma Tai'i
- We sign another prop/ big back rower on loan assuming Burke goes back to Wigan
- We offer extensions to John Boudebza, Graeme Horne and Ben Cockayne
- Keep Ollett, but get rid of Cox, Esslemont and Donaldson
- Sign Larroyer to a permanent deal'"
I like what you say but some of it is dreaming but we can all dream
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| Quote ="cravenpark1"I like what you say but some of it is dreaming but we can all dream
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I hope none of my suggestions are pipe dreams, more realistic aspirations and opportunities. I also have belief in the lure of our new club culture and collegiality and the persuasive power of Jamie Peacock.
It will be interesting to see how many of the wish list comes off.
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| Quote ="Dave K."It will be really hard to recruit 4 players in the position mentioned who will improve your squad if you don't have any overseas spots available.
I'm not sure having two overseas props is the best use of quota spots, unless they are top class, their are plenty of good English props and usually a prop only plays half the game, so you would maybe be better using the quota spot on a position that is more pivotal.
Again I'm not convinced by having wingers as overseas players either and you have two. Kelly and Campese are the right players and the right positions to use overseas spots, but I'm not sure on using 4 spots on wingers and props.
Where do you think Lunt will go? Cant see Leeds signing him when they have Aiton, Burrow and Ward on their books.'"
Yeah, I agree about props and wings. No reflection on the non-fed ones we have now. Maybe the more expensive positions are barely affordable on the SL cap? We've had some props from the NRL - Vella, Paea and Weyman. Sio and Mantomato are doing well on the wings. But it'd be good to have a spot free for a centre, or hooker or backrower, where there's not much fed-trained talent available.
On the size of our backrowers, I have to agree with earlier posts. But injuries have knackered things up. Our 2014 'won't be bullied' pack of gnarled old pros hit a similar snag. The current group are brave and hard working, but perhaps they'd have to work less hard if there was a bit more of a mix of styles. In fairness, Chester had his work cut out on recruitment last year. With Kelly and Blair staying (huzzah!)he can perhaps focus on finding a bit more power. And probably a hooker, unfortunately.
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| Quote ="Dave K."It will be really hard to recruit 4 players in the position mentioned who will improve your squad if you don't have any overseas spots available.
I'm not sure having two overseas props is the best use of quota spots, unless they are top class, their are plenty of good English props and usually a prop only plays half the game, so you would maybe be better using the quota spot on a position that is more pivotal.
Again I'm not convinced by having wingers as overseas players either and you have two. Kelly and Campese are the right players and the right positions to use overseas spots, but I'm not sure on using 4 spots on wingers and props.
Where do you think Lunt will go? Cant see Leeds signing him when they have Aiton, Burrow and Ward on their books.'"
Interest from aussie.
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| Quote ="Pickering Red"Here's my ideal scenarios for 2016: (salary cap / quota spots permitting)
- Lunt commits to a 3 year deal
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- We sign another prop/ big back rower on loan assuming Burke goes back to Wigan
- We offer extensions to John Boudebza, Graeme Horne and Ben Cockayne
- Keep Ollett, but get rid of Cox, Esslemont and Donaldson
- Sign Larroyer to a permanent deal'"
Our coach rates Donaldson far to much to release him
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| Quote ="MagicCarlos"Lunt won't be here next year and even if he was gonna be surely we should be slightly reluctant about signing somebody who has spent over half the year injured? '"
Bradford away was 6 weeks & 2 days ago. Hardly half a year now is it?
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| Half the year he's been available to play for us yes.
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| Quote ="MagicCarlos"Half the year he's been available to play for us yes.'"
Half of a 12 week year?
It's frustrating that he's out injured, as it is with several others, but hooker is the new halfback in terms of quality available in SL. Signing Lunt would be be a no-brainer imo, if it were an option.
I've seen a few say that there must be better than Lee or McShane available... Surely there must be!
But looking around the league at who else we'd have a reasonable chance of getting - cupboard's pretty bare.
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| There's no one better or more available than Lunt, my talk with connections worry me about his mental toughness, seems to be a player that needs to be constantly reassured that he's top dog.
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| Quote ="Sandro II Terrorista"There's no one better or more available than Lunt, my talk with connections worry me about his mental toughness, seems to be a player that needs to be constantly reassured that he's top dog.'"
He is the ideal choice for us but if his mental toughness is in question is does make you wonder if he'll be looking for somewhere closer to home. The worry for me with him was always that why would hudds let someone with his undoubted quality leave mid season? Must be more than just rugby reasons.
There is no doubt tho that we need another hooker in, Boudebza has stepped up and looked really good but needs to be spelled by a more experienced head.
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