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| If the shoe was on the other foot all these Fc clowns would be going mad about it again. So dont come on here whinging because were going mad about it.
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| Classless statement from Hudgell, Jon Sharp is head of officiating, who else is going to issue an official statement ? Ganson admitted he made a mistake, more than he did to us last year.
Rovers fans saying he cost us the "points" need to remember it was 16 all at the time and we were unfortunate to be only level as O'Meley's tackle on Mika was never a penalty. I have seen tries like Yeaman's not given but all of the sky commentators said it was try including Cummins. Both teams had tries that had dubious passes in them.
We took it on the chin last year, suggest you do the same.
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"All I want now is the RFL to clarify how it won't happen again.
Root Cause Corrective Action is what it's called in my job if a mistake is made.
Identify what went wrong.
Then state what preventative measures have been put in place to prevent reoccurance.
That has not happened so far but maybe it's too soon and might happen during the next week or two'"
Its in the past now so just take it on the chin and move on
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| Quote ="Wellsy13""For all of them I need more than ‘sorry’ from an ex-Hull FC player, coach and vocal advocate down the years."
That quote there completely ruined the entire statement and showed his true colours. Completely uncalled for and completely unnecessary. It's comments like that that create unneeded ill-feeling between the clubs. I'm glad some of the more level-headed Rovers fans can see that. I just don't see what he hopes to achieve from making that comment.'"
Have to agree.
No need to take a shot at Jon Sharp.
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| Hudgell and Sandercock having temper tantrums, blaming everybody else, surely not.
It's doing your club no favours, sorry to say. They should let it go. Plain and simple. Mistakes happen in sport, in someways it's all part of its entertainment.
Hull had a daft decision last year, you did this year. Hull played poorly, Hull KR failed to capitise. Hull woke up in the last 10, and drew level - fair and square. You hadn't done enough to actually win this game either way anyway. Last year we were robbed of 2 points, you got away with getting robbed of 1. Holsworth should have kicked the conversation all day along after Yeamans try, so you were fortunate to be even in that position.
If Hugell believes that an investigation into standards is going to yield any results he is in cloud cookoo land. The RFL know it wasn't good enough and have aplogised. They don't need an investigation to tell them its not good enough. Hugell I suspect knows this however, which means he is just trying to make a lot of noise to pacify the fans.
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| Quote ="bishops finger"If the shoe was on the other foot all these Fc clowns would be going mad about it again. So dont come on here whinging because were going mad about it.'"
If I was a KR fan, frankly I would have laughed at how ludicrous it was. Then, would have been annoyed by it. Then would have likely had a beer, made dinner and got on with life. It's sport.
Investigations, calls for this and that is just daft and only reflects poorly on the person doing it in this situation.
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| Quote ="el red"Wellsy13, you are correct you are a top 8 team, you just aren't a top 4 team like most of your fans have been saying this year.
I like coaches being confident but sometimes talking it up sets you up for ridicule.
And before you jump on this I actually have always wanted both Hull teams to be better than the rest, i'd rather have a Hull KR v Hull FC final for everything. Although I would want Rovers to beat you all the time also.'"
Looking at the table, given we have won the last 8 in 9, why is it so crazy to suggest that Hull FC may get into the top 4 this year?
Would require us to keep winning and one of the top 4 to drop away, Huddesfield have a reputation of doing this, and Leeds i would put out of the question either, and we have a strong 6th place now and aside from yesterday's terrible performance, playing well.
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| To get the win was great, but to now listen to all you red and whites winging about it makes it ten times better for me. IN YOUR FACE!!!!
Oh yer, and Grudgehulls statement about Jon Sharp being Ex Hull FC... Wow, what a petty little man. Just can't help himself can he? Anyhow, keep it going lads, I know you're hurting and I'm lovin it.
God I hope Grudgehull reads this thread. AHAHAHAHAHA
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| Quote ="A Adler"To get the win was great, but to now listen to all you red and whites winging about it makes it ten times better for me. IN YOUR FACE!!!!
Oh yer, and Grudgehulls statement about Jon Sharp being Ex Hull FC... Wow, what a petty little man. Just can't help himself can he? Anyhow, keep it going lads, I know you're hurting and I'm lovin it.
God I hope Grudgehull reads this thread. AHAHAHAHAHA'"
Lordy lordy, its a bank holiday sunday.
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| Quote ="A Adler"To get the win was great, but to now listen to all you red and whites winging about it makes it ten times better for me. IN YOUR FACE!!!!
Oh yer, and Grudgehulls statement about Jon Sharp being Ex Hull FC... Wow, what a petty little man. Just can't help himself can he? Anyhow, keep it going lads, I know you're hurting and I'm lovin it.
God I hope Grudgehull reads this thread. AHAHAHAHAHA'"
its not just kr fans, every rugby league fan believes that try should not stand. its just you braindead edit that cant admit it. 1-1 so far with you edit too come too craven park, by by little man
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Have to agree.
No need to take a shot at Jon Sharp.'"
Yeah, I instinctively side with Hudgell, find most of the Grudgell stuff laughable, and accept that some of the things in that statement maybe had to be said - for domestic consumption, if nowt else. But some arguments dilute rather than add to your main point. That detracts, unfortunately.
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| Please cut out both the insults and the more provocative trolling now.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Yeah, [uI instinctively side with Hudgell[/u, find most of the Grudgell stuff laughable, and accept that some of the things in that statement maybe had to be said - for domestic consumption, if nowt else. But some arguments dilute rather than add to your main point. That detracts, unfortunately.'"
Now that is a tragedy.
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"All I want now is the RFL to clarify how it won't happen again.
Root Cause Corrective Action is what it's called in my job if a mistake is made.
Identify what went wrong.
Then state what preventative measures have been put in place to prevent reoccurance.
That has not happened so far but maybe it's too soon and might happen during the next week or two'"
Not one of your fans wanted this to never happen again after last year. Edit. Take it on the chin and move on as mistakes will always happen when humans are involved
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Now that is a tragedy.'"
If I wasn't aware of it, it'd be worse!
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"If I wasn't aware of it, it'd be worse!
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I only became aware of it when I found myself defending Russel Crowes singing in Les Miserables!
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| Strewth he has brought over burgess from pommie land now who has he signed from the les miserables cast Sheldon
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| Quote ="kitche"Strewth he has brought over burgess from pommie land now who has he signed from the les miserables cast Sheldon'"
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| Quote ="hull smallears"a026.gif Not one of your fans wanted this to never happen again after last year. Edit. Take it on the chin and move on as mistakes will always happen when humans are involved'" Again this is nothing like last year.
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| Let you off mate, we all make mistakes ask ganson!
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Again this is nothing like last year.'"
Exactly like last year.
Same ref made a wrong decision.
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Dobson and Gentle's post match reactions, last year and this respectively, echoed each other very closely - almost eerily. 'We'll take that', basically.
Pearson's response covered some of the same ground as Hudgell's 12 months on.
www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... _multiline
The pressure for change is limited, because it is only applied sporadically, when somebody feels especially hard done to. When they go your way, you just feel that you were overdue a bit of luck. Human nature, I suppose. And giving refs that have done you a favour grief, would be honesty to the point of idiocy.
At least we got an apology, so maybe AP's words had some effect. Beyond that, it is difficult to see what measures could be taken to guarantee a repeat is avoided. The fact that a stuff up of this magnitude is considered to be the worst in 10 years (by nh), indicates that it isn't systemic. And the smaller ones that turn games week in, week out - in fairness it isn't an easy job. I wish they were better (though less so when we benefit), I just don't know how you get there.
Quote ="Sheldon"icon_lol.gif
I only became aware of it when I found myself defending Russel Crowes signing in Les Miserables!'"
9 wins from 10, you could be forgiven a bit a of Gladiator cosplay, tbf. Did he sell up, or is my brain just misfiring again?
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Dobson and Gentle's post match reactions, last year and this respectively, echoed each other very closely - almost eerily. 'We'll take that', basically.
Pearson's response covered some of the same ground as Hudgell's 12 months on.
www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... _multiline
The pressure for change is limited, because it is only applied sporadically, when somebody feels especially hard done to. When they go your way, you just feel that you were overdue a bit of luck. Human nature, I suppose. And giving refs that have done you a favour grief, would be honesty to the point of idiocy.
At least we got an apology, so maybe AP's words had some effect. Beyond that, it is difficult to see what measures could be taken to guarantee a repeat is avoided. The fact that a stuff up of this magnitude is considered to be the worst in 10 years (by nh), indicates that it isn't systemic. And the smaller ones that turn games week in, week out - in fairness it isn't an easy job. I wish they were better (though less so when we benefit), I just don't know how you get there.
Quote ="Sheldon"icon_lol.gif
I only became aware of it when I found myself defending Russel Crowes signing in Les Miserables!'"
9 wins from 10, you could be forgiven a bit a of Gladiator cosplay, tbf. Did he sell up, or is my brain just misfiring again?
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Quote ="Mild Rover"Dobson and Gentle's post match reactions, last year and this respectively, echoed each other very closely - almost eerily. 'We'll take that', basically.
Pearson's response covered some of the same ground as Hudgell's 12 months on.
www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... _multiline
The pressure for change is limited, because it is only applied sporadically, when somebody feels especially hard done to. When they go your way, you just feel that you were overdue a bit of luck. Human nature, I suppose. And giving refs that have done you a favour grief, would be honesty to the point of idiocy.
At least we got an apology, so maybe AP's words had some effect. Beyond that, it is difficult to see what measures could be taken to guarantee a repeat is avoided. The fact that a stuff up of this magnitude is considered to be the worst in 10 years, indicates that it isn't systemic. And the smaller ones that turn games week in, week out - in fairness it isn't an easy job. I wish they were better (though less so when we benefit), I just don't know how you get there.
9 wins from 10, you could be forgiven a bit a of Gladiator cosplay, tbf. Did he sell up, or is my brain just misfiring again?'"
You can't get them all 100% but having two ref on the pitch and two in the VR box would be a welcome start.
He's looking to sell up at the end of the year.
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Quote ="Mild Rover"Dobson and Gentle's post match reactions, last year and this respectively, echoed each other very closely - almost eerily. 'We'll take that', basically.
Pearson's response covered some of the same ground as Hudgell's 12 months on.
www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... _multiline
The pressure for change is limited, because it is only applied sporadically, when somebody feels especially hard done to. When they go your way, you just feel that you were overdue a bit of luck. Human nature, I suppose. And giving refs that have done you a favour grief, would be honesty to the point of idiocy.
At least we got an apology, so maybe AP's words had some effect. Beyond that, it is difficult to see what measures could be taken to guarantee a repeat is avoided. The fact that a stuff up of this magnitude is considered to be the worst in 10 years, indicates that it isn't systemic. And the smaller ones that turn games week in, week out - in fairness it isn't an easy job. I wish they were better (though less so when we benefit), I just don't know how you get there.
9 wins from 10, you could be forgiven a bit a of Gladiator cosplay, tbf. Did he sell up, or is my brain just misfiring again?'"
You can't get them all 100% but having two ref on the pitch and two in the VR box would be a welcome start.
He's looking to sell up at the end of the year.
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| We all see bad decisions every weekend, most balance out some don't and this one never will. It was a bad decision and I think nearly everyone at Red Hall has said that, we need to change the way our officials are chosen, trained, supported and help improve the games image.
I have been with some RFU mates and they are laughing their heads off at the way our sport lurches from one crisis to the next. The sport is seen as amatuer and second rate by many and stunts like this go a long way in enforcing that stereotype.
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| Quote ="hull smallears"a026.gif Not one of your fans wanted this to never happen again after last year. Edit. Take it on the chin and move on as mistakes will always happen when humans are involved'"
Point being that forward passes will always be a part of the game
The Eden pass to Brown and the Crooks pass to Linehan could of been called forward on another day with another ref.
Ganson got no help from his TJ's last year after clearly looking at them before awarding the Dobson try.
But with the technology at his disposal for this year's controversy to get it wrong has cast a shadow on what was and is a showpiece event.
I'm fairly relaxed in fairness as I feared the worst with our entire left edge missing and thought we would get hammered.
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