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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"So FC, by allowing their supporters cash in the bank for an additional 13 weeks and 3 or 4 extra month end pay cheques (last year the discount window was extended to the first week in January to allow for this), are actively disadvantaging them? Perhaps you should suggest Rovers do their fans a favour and launch season passes for 2012 at Easter 2011 to they can pay for them before the expense of the the summer holidays.
There is a charge to retailers for use of debit and credit cards, but it depends on the volume of transactions that retailer makes. Credit card charges are a % of the transaction value but debit cards are a fixed fee per transaction. Last place I worked it was 60p per transaction but that's going back a few years.'"
The fee's for debit card transactions went a few years ago IIRC. There was a time when you had to spend a minimum of £5.00 before you could use your debit card. I've bought a solitary 30p paper with my debit card infact I'm struggling to remember my last cash transaction other then over the bar yesterday dinner time..
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista" But at least those debit card devotees have until 31st December to arrange a cash or cheque or postal order payment method instead. This point of much more generous payment periods seems one you are rather keen to gloss over.'"
Didn't we have an option to pay over 4 months? therefore the last payment was by the end of December so in essence a similar deal?
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| Quote ="barham red"Didn't we have an option to pay over 4 months? therefore the last payment was by the end of December so in essence a similar deal?'"
I don't understand your point. For those wishing to pay in full and get the full discount, Club Rovers fans had until 18th Seotember, a deadline then extended to 3rd October. FC fans have until 31st December (extended last year to first week in January to take into account December month end pay). Those paying in instalments at FC have until the end of November to sign up and the first payment goes out mid December with a further 2 in January and February, so have an additional 2 months without paying anything. How is this the same?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I don't understand your point. For those wishing to pay in full and get the full discount, Club Rovers fans had until 18th Seotember, a deadline then extended to 3rd October. FC fans have until 31st December (extended last year to first week in January to take into account December month end pay). Those paying in instalments at FC have until the end of November to sign up and the first payment goes out mid December with a further 2 in January and February, so have an additional 2 months without paying anything. How is this the same?'"
its not the same, it is subtly different to your statement that we have to pay for our passes by October when in fact the full payment doesn't have to be paid until December.
What I don't understand is why you feel the need to try and undermine our season pass 'strategy' by comparing apples to pears and tryng to convince yourself that we are being ripped off.
As in most business its a case of supply and demand, we have areas that have high demand for limitted space. Your lot have the more space than demand. I'm pretty sure if Fc ould get away with accelerating season pass sales they would but the reality is if they reduced the window they'd just reduce the uptake.
As I stated earlier, using this site a snap shot of fan feeling, our fans are reasonably happy with the pass situation and pricing whereas a lot of your lot are not. Maybe you should have a spell on there and convince the disgruntled ones they are in fact watching entertaining RL, which is what its all about.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Fair enough on the RSG mums.'"
[uJRs[/u mums
And does it really matter when passes are released? Hull's shirts go on sale in the next few weeks yet ours have still to be released. That means we'll have longer to save up than you
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| Quote ="EAST HULL RED"[uJRs[/u mums
And does it really matter when passes are released? [uHull's shirts go on sale in the next few weeks yet ours have still to be released. That means we'll have longer to save up than you[/u
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| Quote ="EAST HULL RED" Hull's shirts go on sale in the next few weeks yet ours have still to be released. That means we'll have longer to save up than you
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You're just not understanding the rules of this game are you?
Clearly, our shirts going on sale so near to Christmas will impact upon many families ability to pay for a slap up turkey dinner, leaving the bairns of East Hull to go hungry over the festive period.
We lose again I'm afraid.
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| Quote ="pmh"You're just not understanding the rules of this game are you?
Clearly, our shirts going on sale so near to Christmas will impact upon many families ability to pay for a slap up turkey dinner, leaving the bairns of East Hull to go hungry over the festive period.
We lose again I'm afraid.
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I undertsand that in the interests of goodwill our Black and White neighbours will be using the cash windfall from having £200 in the bank for 3 months at between 0% and 0.5% interest to pay for a slap up meal for the unfortunate Rovers fans that have so callously had their Christmas dinner stolen from them by Ebenezer Hudgill.
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| Quote ="barham red"Suppose the way to look at it is, are Rovers fans generally happy with the value they get for the money they pay out, on the whole the answer is yes. Are FC fans happy with the value they get, not judging by a lot of the not buying another pass brigade on here.
Simply summarised. £485 to watch entertaining rugby or £455 to watch utter durge, its a no brainer..
Still I suppose you can sit there happily unentertained and applaud the profit.
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You can suppose what you like BRed, but wait until you actually have our final pass holders at the KC to follow what you think is 'utter durge'. Makes me wonder what sort of 'durge' you red & whites play with the total of passholders at the caravan park -even allowing for all those who have already missed the deadline for the Club Rovers!.....good luck anyway chuck, ..grannyfan Cindy
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| Quote ="mrs cindy russell"You can suppose what you like BRed, but wait until you actually have our final pass holders at the KC to follow what you think is 'utter durge'. Makes me wonder what sort of 'durge' you red & whites play with the total of passholders at the caravan park -even allowing for all those who have already missed the deadline for the Club Rovers!.....good luck anyway chuck, ..grannyfan Cindy'"
Don't spoil it for them grannyfan...fans moan every year on the board they will not renew, we finished near the bottom of the league for 2 seasons and still got record pass sales for both the seasons following...a couple of hundred fans on here do not represent the 1000s of faithful as we know, but some on here like to believe they do
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Don't spoil it for them grannyfan...fans moan every year on the board they will not renew, we finished near the bottom of the league for 2 seasons and still got record pass sales for both the seasons following...a couple of hundred fans on here do not represent the 1000s of faithful as we know, but some on here like to believe they do
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You're expecting less this year (and I should imagine we are as well) due to the prevailing economic climate in Hull.
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| Quote ="pmh"[uYou're expecting less this year[/u (and I should imagine we are as well) due to the prevailing economic climate in Hull.'"
We will see, if there is a dip I would not expect it to be too significant, maybe less than a 700, I personally still expect 8300-9000 passes sold by FC.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"We will see, if there is a dip I would not expect it to be too significant, maybe less than a 700, I personally still expect 8300-9000 passes sold by FC.'"
Oh, I'm not saying it in "aren't Hull rubbish they've sold less passes than last season" kind of way, I just know that the strategy is different this year to last when I think the target was 9K.
This year with Hull (the city) being badly affected due to such a large percentage of the population working in the public sector (and particularly the NHS) they're not setting such specific targets as they realise that money will be tight for a lot of people.
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| Quote ="pmh"Oh, I'm not saying it in "aren't Hull rubbish they've sold less passes than last season" kind of way, I just know that the strategy is different this year to last when I think the target was 9K.
This year with Hull (the city) being badly affected due to such a large percentage of the population working in the public sector (and particularly the NHS) they're not setting such specific targets as they realise that money will be tight for a lot of people.'"
Hull as a city was badly effected this time last year too.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Hull as a city was badly effected this time last year too.'" #
Oh, I'm aware of that Big Dave T, and tbh I hope both clubs sell as many as is possible.
I'm also aware that Hull won't be surprised or particularly disappointed if they sell a few less this year than last, I'm in no way stating that you [iwill[/i sell less and that I hope you do.
Anyway, as ever I've taken this off topic so I'll shut me cake hole now!
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| Quote ="pmh"#
Oh, I'm aware of that Big Dave T, and tbh I hope both clubs sell as many as is possible.
I'm also aware that Hull won't be surprised or particularly disappointed if they sell a few less this year than last, I'm in no way stating that you [iwill[/i sell less and that I hope you do.
Anyway, as ever I've taken this off topic so I'll shut me cake hole now!'"
I think FC will sell less. We sold 9500 last year. I'd expect 8500 this year max. I dont think it's down to economic conditions though, more the tripe we see on the pitch.
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| Quote ="mrs cindy russell"You can suppose what you like BRed, but wait until you actually have our final pass holders at the KC to follow what you think is 'utter durge'. Makes me wonder what sort of 'durge' you red & whites play with the total of passholders at the caravan park -even allowing for all those who have already missed the deadline for the Club Rovers!.....good luck anyway chuck, ..grannyfan Cindy'"
Reminds me of a Jarvis Cocker song that post.
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Reminds me of a Jarvis Cocker song that post.'"
'Help the Aged' ?
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| Quote ="mrs cindy russell"You can suppose what you like BRed, but wait until you actually have our final pass holders at the KC to follow what you think is 'utter durge'. Makes me wonder what sort of 'durge' you red & whites play with the total of passholders at the caravan park -even allowing for all those who have already missed the deadline for the Club Rovers!.....good luck anyway chuck, ..grannyfan Cindy'"
So the number of pass holders is directly relative to quality of product on the pitch. Therefore this means FC play more entertaining rugby than all teams except Leeds and Wigan.. Better tell Wire and Saints to go for that one up stuff + aimless kick, its the future.
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| Quote ="Captain Dave"'Help the Aged' ?'"
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| Any news on sales so far?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"So FC, by allowing their supporters cash in the bank for an additional 13 weeks and 3 or 4 extra month end pay cheques (last year the discount window was extended to the first week in January to allow for this), are actively disadvantaging them? Perhaps you should suggest Rovers do their fans a favour and launch season passes for 2012 at Easter 2011 to they can pay for them before the expense of the the summer holidays.
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I bet it's fun in your home.
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| Quote ="barham red"Suppose the way to look at it is, are Rovers fans generally happy with the value they get for the money they pay out, on the whole the answer is yes. Are FC fans happy with the value they get, not judging by a lot of the not buying another pass brigade on here.
Simply summarised. £485 to watch entertaining rugby or £455 to watch utter durge, its a no brainer..
Still I suppose you can sit there happily unentertained and applaud the profit.
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I agree with you. An d I don't care. Hull fans have been exploited too long. (I do think as well though that club rovers is a complete and utter rip off)
I want to see some entertainment. We have had maybe 3 episodes (of value) at home, but the rest cack, and some expensive away trips that I went to, to see us play abject dirge.
That said as well, and I am sure that rovers fans will agree, you are not the best side in the league for entertainment by a long shot. A lot of tries come from kicks. Not all that to crow about. We do have a great stadium, if only it would be rocking more than it is not, it would make our season pass much better value than yours. But, for the last 3 seasons, like I said first up, I would have to agreee. Thinkgs can change though.................
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