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| Quote ="barham red"Forums are fine, decent sharing of comms etc. Trouble is in times of crisis, and if that result doesn't spell crisis I don't know what does, then it's the wrong time completely. At best it'll be a talking shop at worst it'll be a chance for lighting the torches and getting the pitch forks out.
I personally couldn't care less if the club listen to me or not as long as they put together a squad able to compete and entertain. Listening to a bunch of ill informed people calling for different players heads will only plunge us further in my opinion than we already have. Let the managers manage, if they do it right the fans will do what they do and support well.'"
Bingo! Spot on 're the forum.
We should have a forum into why the support at home games has been non existent if we are holding everyone to account.
Hudgell will leave Rovers in a better place long term than Pearson will with the Sharks.
We simply need a better coaching team. Webster was an awful appointment. Stop delaying and get on with biting the bullet.
Webster went from making excuses for a 40-0 home bumming to directly blaming the players a week later....weak.
Our leadership of the team is weak from coaching to captains.
We've sent forward Horne and Clarkson as our captains this year. The opposition must shrug their shoulders and chuckle to themselves.
Strong inspired leadership is required at the moment. This coaching team can't provide it.
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| Quote ="Roofs""...get out from behind your keyboards." What an insulting, patronising thing to say. Somehow I doubt all the people understandably booing and venting their anger on Sat were 'keyboard warriors.'
He's done a great job over the twelve years but really does act and speak unprofessionally at times. Probably also guilty of heart ruling head (always a danger when you have a fan run a club) on many occasions over the years. The priority of beating Hull over everything else I used to find particularly embarrassing.
I'd like to hear him explain what Peacock does for his huge salary every year, how much Campese and Kelly are paid to chill out, among other things.'"
There is a danger here that, because feelings are running high, we all get a bit thoughtless with our words and, at the same time hypersensitive to what others are saying. That goes from the board, to the coaches, players and fans.
So while Hudgell might be fed up at tipping in all that money only to watch abject underperformance and see carping from keyboard warriors like me, and the players are doubtless unhappy about having their integrity questioned and career path start to crumble, and we're narked that too at how it has come to this, if we all tear into each other then...
1. Well, the wheels have already come off, but that can be fixed - if the axles break and the engine explodes in a bout of internecine bickering and scapegoating, it could be cataclysmic.
2. And this is very much secondary, but it will make the Hull FC trolls happy. And surely we don't want that!
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| Pearson has put us in a far better position than Hudgell has Rovers..second from bottom ,losing to a part time team ,in fighting among players,attendances down,fans threatening a boycott ,little wonder your club is were its at when you still back a chairman who clearly has been the main factor in your clubs fortunes with poor recruitment and soon to have your fourth coach in less then twelve months ..at your forum ask him why he puts gagging orders on everyone he gets shut of .Like to bet he wont get any questions what have not been screened first
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| Quote ="Wizard crane"Pearson has put us in a far better position than Hudgell has Rovers..second from bottom ,losing to a part time team ,in fighting among players,attendances down,fans threatening a boycott ,little wonder your club is were its at when you still back a chairman who clearly has been the main factor in your clubs fortunes with poor recruitment and soon to have your fourth coach in less then twelve months ..at your forum ask him why he puts gagging orders on everyone he gets shut of .Like to bet he wont get any questions what have not been screened first'"
Which boycott, exactly?
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| Quote ="Wizard crane"Pearson has put us in a far better position than Hudgell has Rovers..second from bottom ,losing to a part time team ,in fighting among players,attendances down,fans threatening a boycott ,little wonder your club is were its at when you still back a chairman who clearly has been the main factor in your clubs fortunes with poor recruitment and soon to have your fourth coach in less then twelve months ..at your forum ask him why he puts gagging orders on everyone he gets shut of .Like to bet he wont get any questions what have not been screened first'"
While there's some merit in cross-sectional analyses, longtidudinal studies are generally better regarded.
It's not so long ago that Pearson was held in much lower esteem than right now, his rhetoric during his initial beatific period having been shown to be rather hollow. Across nearly five years, he's brought you on a little way at significant expense, and while your team looks excellent this season, there's no guarantee that the success is locked-in, even in just the medium term. Look at Leeds and Hudds, for goodness sake. Would you say Pearson has done a better job than Gary Hetherington or Ken Davy?
Hudgell picked up rovers in the second tier, and has been the driving force behind our ten-year stay in the top flight. Even if it all comes tumbling down now, at least a new generation got to see the club revived and living the dream for a good long while. I don't think we do, and certainly we shouldn't feel any sense of entitlement to greater success than Hudgell has delivered over more than decade, much as this season has been very disappointing even relative to our modest hopes.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"While there's some merit in cross-sectional analyses, longtidudinal studies are generally better regarded.
It's not so long ago that Pearson was held in much lower esteem than right now, his rhetoric during his initial beatific period having been shown to be rather hollow. Across nearly five years, he's brought you on a little way at significant expense, and while your team looks excellent this season, there's no guarantee that the success is locked-in, even in just the medium term. Look at Leeds and Hudds, for goodness sake. Would you say Pearson has done a better job than Gary Hetherington or Ken Davy?
Hudgell picked up rovers in the second tier, and has been the driving force behind our ten-year stay in the top flight. Even if it all comes tumbling down now, at least a new generation got to see the club revived and living the dream for a good long while. I don't think we do, and certainly we shouldn't feel any sense of entitlement to greater success than Hudgell has delivered over more than decade, much as this season has been very disappointing even relative to our modest hopes.'"
Pearson would sell if he could but no one would buy them. They have an awful relationship with the owners of their ground and have little value for any long term plan.
Motu Tony has bailed them out in the short term.
I can see Hudgell's long term plan though am really concerned that we will get relegated under this coach. That would be catastrophic.
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| Why does everything have to end up as a Rovers v Hull comparison? It really isn't helpful in 2016.
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| Quote ="SirStan"Why does everything have to end up as a Rovers v Hull comparison? It really isn't helpful in 2016.'"
Because for the last 6 or 7 years fc fans have had nothing good to say about their club at all but now this season they are going well so all forgotten and they can come on here and let us know how great they are, and how $hit we are
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| Quote ="Oafy"Because for the last 6 or 7 years fc fans have had nothing good to say about their club at all but now this season they are going well so all forgotten and they can come on here and let us know how great they are, and how $hit we are'"
In 2016 terms they would be absolutely correct though would they not?
2pm on Good Friday seems a long time ago.
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| Quote ="SirStan"Why does everything have to end up as a Rovers v Hull comparison? It really isn't helpful in 2016.'"
Your right.
It is an easy way to make a point though.
In perspective to Rovers current state our chairman has moved the club Herculean distances since he took over given his finances. Look at the stadium.
Our current mess on the field is down to a terrible appointment, particularly Webster. The previous 2 had positives but this one was the wrong appointment at the worst time. If someone with a half decent cv had taken over we would be not worrying about relegation and the masked avenger could start building next season.
As it is we spend six months Shi#ing ourselves staring into the abyss.
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| Quote ="unknownlegend"Hull Brewery Mild, Hydes Meat pies, Skeltons raisin pies all sadly gone replaced by rubbish!!'"
Skeltons raisin pies?
It's a curd pie with raisins, they were undoubtedly the most delicious snack but please give them the correct name.
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"Your right.
It is an easy way to make a point though.
In perspective to Rovers current state our chairman has moved the club Herculean distances since he took over given his finances. Look at the stadium.
Our current mess on the field is down to a terrible appointment, particularly Webster. The previous 2 had positives but this one was the wrong appointment at the worst time. If someone with a half decent cv had taken over we would be not worrying about relegation and the masked avenger could start building next season.
As it is we spend six months Shi#ing ourselves staring into the abyss.'" Aye because all was rosy in the garden prior to Webbo rocking up.....
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"Pearson would sell if he could but no one would buy them. They have an awful relationship with the owners of their ground and have little value for any long term plan.
Motu Tony has bailed them out in the short term.
I can see Hudgell's long term plan though am really concerned that we will get relegated under this coach. That would be catastrophic.'"
You've busted AP on his master plan. What is hudges plan? Ruin your club? Because since day 1 he said we will have a team with local talent. He's out of his depth even sponsors say this.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"You've busted AP on his master plan. What is hudges plan? Ruin your club? Because since day 1 he said we will have a team with local talent. He's out of his depth even sponsors say this.'"
Were you counting the final minutes of your ban down before hitting the submit button?
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| I do think we need to look into who the board are recruiting for our coach? Whoever the 'masked avenger' is, he isn't willing to turn up now !
I wanted John Kear, he would be here doing the job now and he would have authority with the players (something Webster most probably doesn't have due to his temporary appointment).
If we go to Oz then Geoff Toovey is unemployed at the moment so why not get him.
Instead it seems as if we are waiting for Macnamara, a local lad, but right now I think we need the new coach to take the reins.
The last two performances have been
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| Quote ="SirStan"Were you counting the final minutes of your ban down before hitting the submit button?'"
It's been a nightmare especially with your close cup game with the favourites Oldham.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"It's been a nightmare especially with your close cup game with the favourites Oldham.
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How did you fill the void on your life, assuming you have one of course?
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| Quote ="SirStan"How did you fill the void on your life, assuming you have one of course?'"
Coach east hull U16s so that takes some time up. Webbo should come down we can show him how to win a game.
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"Bingo! Spot on 're the forum.
We should have a forum into why the support at home games has been non existent if we are holding everyone to account.
Hudgell will leave Rovers in a better place long term than Pearson will with the Sharks.
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When and how, though? He's certainly taking his time. This is your worst season for a decade and you don't appear to have a long term strategy.
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| I'm a very empathetic and sympathetic man, sometimes I surprise myself with those qualities.
I'm both empathetic and sympathetic to your friends (probably not really friends, sufferers in all likelihood) and family for having the misfortune to have you infect their lives.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"It's been a nightmare especially with your close cup game with the favourites Oldham.
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Like a t#rd that just won't flush away......just when you think it's got round the u bend....it bobs back to the surface.
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| Quote ="SirStan"Aye because all was rosy in the garden prior to Webbo rocking up.....'"
Far from ok but it was fixable. A decent appointment would have had us confident for the middle 8s and possibly pushing for 8th and developing for next year.
Instead we're heading to the bottom and out the cup. Our attack has nose dived and the camp appears in disarray. Beaten at home twice horrifically.
Webster's start at Rovers mirrors his tenure at Wakefield.
If it looks like a tu#d, smells like a t#rd, it's usually a t#rd.
That's a lot of t#rds in the last 2 posts but the current predicament requires a lot of purging.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"Coach east hull U16s so that takes some time up. Webbo should come down we can show him how to win a game.
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Oh no you don't.
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"Like a t#rd that just won't flush away......just when you think it's got round the u bend....it bobs back to the surface.'"
I call those "Lazarus Turds" in that they've come back from the dead.
Thought I would share.
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