Yup, and Murrell would give 22 penalties away to Washys 14, whats your point?

Good to see you can debate with a counter point - idiot.

Theres no debating some comments!! (i'll ignore the personal insult, im sure the mods will pick that up)

As opposed to you picking up the debate

Eh?

You can add Washy to that list.

Tony Smith also asked about his availabilty last year for the France game but due to the clubs injuries he and Agar agreed it would best to stay at Hull.

I can see GML's point about Washy in the Celtic game, (I think he was there that night doing the commentary) he did miss a few tackles but it was his 1st game back after injury and he hasn't played for 1st team since because his injury still isn't right. To judge him on that game would be unfair imo.

I'm not going to make to many comments on Murrell cos it's difficult when you don't see them play week in week out, GG watches both teams regular so maybe he can make a judgement better than most.

You having a laugh??? There are fasr better players than him around at the moment!!

Tickle
Westerman
Sinfield
Langley
Westwood

Murrell has a better passign and kicking game but Washy is a better player in all other areas.

Depends on what you want from your 13 I guess.

What ability has Murrell got that washy hasnt????

Neither of them are England quality.....

Like i have said far better players around in the second row/looseman position

Washbrook is the better player out of the two.



Better passing and kicking game. Also has the ability to put a massive shot on, not saying Washbrook can't just never seen him do one.

Murrell's work rate has been immense so far this season. Improving all the time.

It may be but he misses too many tackles and doesnt make enough yards to be international quality.

As said above both players are a way off being internataional quality.

Washy has far more super league experience than Murrell
because Murell put one hit on Brad Drew does that make him a better player???

I agree Murell does have a better kicking game...as for a passing game i think both players are on par there!!!

Washy for me everytime

Read my post again





I agree Washbrook is the better player, I was just highlighting what areas Scotty excels in.

The post was Murell for England!!

The reply is NEVER...he just isnt good enough.

At least i have one

When all is said and done, the 6, 7 & 13 will have to be picked as a combination because all the available contenders in all positions have such different skill sets where they are strong in some areas but weak in others.

Out of the two sides I would have Horne, Dobson and Washy.

Agree with that.

If you want to be picky, the best loose forward at either club is Ben Galea

Nah, best position is the backrow for me.

Have you passed this valuable information to Justin???

Me too, he is a very good second rower and brings a lot of creative play out wide, which tend to end in tries or near misses.