At least O'Loughlin, its a crime to have his hair do!!

Sweeping statement there cabby based on a handful of incidents. There are hundreds of other players that seem to be able to go out and not be wa*kers.

I thank you!

Problem is my friend there are plenty of people out there who want to have a go at players when they are enjoying themselves.

IIRC, Raynor got two year suspended sentence

So when in court (by the sounds of your statement anyway) the judge said Mr Cockayne, your offense was much worse than Mr Raynor at Hull FC



No ofc he didn't, and with out being privy to both case details neither can you.

For what it is worth, what he did makes me shudder, no matter the circumstances, but some of the tripe on here is getting ridiculous

See for yourself:

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tbf, some of you did condemn him, if less vociferously than BC. His avoidance of a custodial sentence was welcomed by some others - one or two of whom now think a firmer stand has to be taken against this sort of thing.

And 99% of the players can laugh it off with no bother as a result.

I dont even recall the thread to be honest, and the Hull Fans that welcomed him not getting a custodial sentence need to think again for me. As ive said, there is not place in our sport for this kind of behaviour, from any player.

Hang on!

Look at the sentenced handed out - Raynor gets around 6 months less, suspended for 6 months less. Anyone with half a brain can see that's a lesser sentence. The offences are different but the law and the court has viewed Raynor's as less severe, independently of each other.

If you want me to put links to the reports, fine but its all there to see on BBC et al.

I dont care about sentence Chris, both should have been sacked and both should have been sent down.

If a player is out with his friends and another group want to start aggro with them, sometimes things can get out of hand a person will get hurt and that player will find himself in the paper the next day. Guilty or not.

Whats that got to do with this. The players we are talking about have been proven guilty in a court of law.

shame paul m and his cronies never saw it like that when raynor got off lightly! interesting reading, don't recall any of us laughing at the fact ben escaped prison!

As said, i dont even recall the thread and really havent got the energy to read it now. Anyone laughing at Raynor getting off (if they did) need to think about things a bit more i think.

Yes, that's quite surprising isn't it?

Agreed Dave. I'm just concerned that some posters (Reenyrobin) are distorting what I'm saying. It's a FACT

that Raynor got less of a sentence than Cockayne, therefore the offence is clearly viewed as less serious by the court IMO.

I have no idea of the background to the cases really, anymore than anyone else on here does, but the fact of the sentences is there for all to see.

The judges deemed the offences to be of different scales yes, however i have no confidence in our legal system to Raynor could well have acted twice as bad!

All i am saying is Ben from now on whatever happens to him i.e stays at Rovers goes to play for another club, works on a building site. What he should not do is get drunk and end up in a town centre somewhere. Because ner do wells will be lining up to give him a good kicking. Ben if has anything about him should just go tee total.

he's a nutter when sober too!!

only when he plays against your lot!

Well you may think that and it could be true. However, different Judges are known to hand down different sentences for similar offences and being human I guess that could be influenced by many things, not necessarily the severity of the offence or the facts presented in the case.

Suffice to say, both are serious violent offences and for consistency ought to be viewed similarly, don't you think?

Yes, thats why he said he agreed with me about them both needing to be sacked and sent down!

Ahh, perhaps then you could provide a link to your long running sack Raynor crusade, and I will gladly sign up to that and the sack Cockayne crusade too.