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| Think most have said the same as I think although I'd actively move Sio on. Great player but is winger really a position we would want a high paid o/seas player in. Josh is probably cheaper so I'd keep him.
Campese is a must go, he was crap on Saturday and that 5th tackle penalty was one of the key points that lost us the game. His kicking at the end was dumb beyond belief from a player with his experience.
Kelly, Tilse, Horne, Larroyer, clarkson, Cockayne, Boudebza Allgood all have to go.
Build around the rest, Lunt, Greenwood and Blair to top the list of get them signed now.
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| Quote ="easthull4"1 Shaw
2 Oakes
3 Minns
4 Wardel
5 Mantelato
6 ANO
7 ANO
8 Tilse
9 Lunt
10 Walker
11 Blair
12 Greenwood
13 Lawler
14 Dixon
15 Donaldson
16 Marsh
17 Jubb
18 Mulhearn
19 ANO prop
20 ANO half back
21 ANO Second Rower
22 ANO Second Rower
23.ANO Centre
24 ANO Utility Forward
25 ANO Utility Back
The above are the players I would keep and spots in 25 man squad I would try to fill assuming Sio has gone Campesie retired the rest just not up to standard or either had it
We will be lucky to hold on to Lunt Blair more than any of them maybe Minns might go but with a bit of luck he will stay along with Matlelato
Kelly Thornly Allgood Clarkson Cockayne Horn Larroyer Boudebza (looks like he has gone) would let go
Look forward to your response'"
Not far off. I would expect Tilse and Big Josh to go with the wage bill to at least halve. Add to your list Salter, Moran and Cator. I would still like us to go for Scruton and Clark, not fussed about Addy. I would expect Marsh to be a starting half back, haven’t a clue for scrum half at the minute. We need to try and keep Blair, Lunt, Greenwood, Minns and Walker.
1. Shaw
2. Oakes/Wardill
3. Salter
4. Minns
5. Dixon
6. Marsh
7. AN other
8. Walker
9. Lunt
10. Scruton
11. Greenwood
12. Lawler
13. Blair
14. Clark
15. Mulhearn
16. Donaldson
17. Jubb
With honest Adam's comments in the HDM about us, we could also put a cheeky season loan bid in for Jack Logan and Hadley who won't get much game time next year.
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| Quote ="MrsHallsSausageRolls"Not far off. I would expect Tilse and Big Josh to go with the wage bill to at least halve. Add to your list Salter, Moran and Cator. I would still like us to go for Scruton and Clark, not fussed about Addy. I would expect Marsh to be a starting half back, haven’t a clue for scrum half at the minute. We need to try and keep Blair, Lunt, Greenwood, Minns and Walker.
1. Shaw
2. Oakes/Wardill
3. Salter
4. Minns
5. Dixon
6. Marsh
7. AN other
8. Walker
9. Lunt
10. Scruton
11. Greenwood
12. Lawler
13. Blair
14. Clark
15. Mulhearn
16. Donaldson
17. Jubb
With honest Adam's comments in the HDM about us, we could also put a cheeky season loan bid in for Jack Logan and Hadley who won't get much game time next year.'"
forget that one you cant have them
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| My choice would be very similar with just a few alterations;
1. Oakes (Bit left wing but he played Full Back for Eastmoor and there is a clip of him playing v Hull on you tube as an FB and he looks useful and assured)
2. Shaw
3. Wardill
4. Minns
5. Dixon
6. UNSURE with Marsh as back up.
7. UNSURE
8. Walker
9. Lunt
10. Scruton (Presuming he joins)
11. Greenwood
12. Blair
13. Clark
14. Lawler
15. Mulhearn
16. Donaldson
17. Jubb
We need to decent halfs and we will combat any team in the championship, the question is what 2 are available and will join a championship club?
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"Everyone of clubs that move ground start remembering there old ground as this great thing I liked the old craven park from what I remember but when I see photos of it now I just think God what a dump same as the willows the boulevard etc'"
The boulevard was a palace compared to the old CP which even had an old railway box cart in it if my memory serves me correctly. Used to be a great atmosphere in there though as it was very compact and enclosed and I well remember the day casey threw away his international captaincy there. I was also there for the final game (widnes?) and the first game at the new ground (trafford borough?).
I even pulled my boots on and played at the old place
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| I think you're all being a bit deluded here. I'd doubt very much that there will be any player loyalty and anyone who can get a SL contract for next year will be off. agents will be sniffing out another payday. Walker already agreed a contract with hudds and greenwood off to join his brother if rumours are to be believed
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| Rumours don't pay mortgages, contracts do however. Rovers best hope that most clubs have already spent most of their budget already otherwise our few decent players will be picked over.
We need to prioritise our spend on the youngsters.
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| Quote ="SirStan"Rumours don't pay mortgages, contracts do however. Rovers best hope that most clubs have already spent most of their budget already otherwise our few decent players will be picked over.
We need to prioritise our spend on the youngsters.'"
Don't quite agree. That was Sandercock's remit. That marked the start of our decline. Give some youngsters a chance, but if we're serious about promotion. We need some serious players.
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| Quote ="SirStan"Rumours don't pay mortgages, contracts do however. Rovers best hope that most clubs have already spent most of their budget already otherwise our few decent players will be picked over.
We need to prioritise our spend on the youngsters.'"
If it was me I would stay, they helped make the drop happen I'd want to play the part in putting you back up, loyalty should be involved they was paid good wages this season & played rubbish, you was loyal paying to watch them, loyallty lies off field why not on it.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"If it was me I would stay, they helped make the drop happen I'd want to play the part in putting you back up, loyalty should be involved they was paid good wages this season & played rubbish, you was loyal paying to watch them, loyalffy lies off field why not on it.'"
Ive said this myself. And Hudge quoted the same. The players who are asked to stay, have a moral obligation to repair the damage they have brought to the club. After all, they won't be on peanuts.
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| Quote ="Hessle rover"Ive said this myself. And Hudge quoted the same. The players who are asked to stay, have a moral obligation to repair the damage they have brought to the club. After all, they won't be on peanuts.'"
Rough with the smooth, they owe the club that has given them the chance to do the job they love, I would want the challenge, & work with sheens who has a cracking pedigree.
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| Quote ="Hessle rover"Ive said this myself. And Hudge quoted the same. The players who are asked to stay, have a moral obligation to repair the damage they have brought to the club. After all, they won't be on peanuts.'"
Meanwhile, back in the real world, any that can leave will
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Meanwhile, back in the real world, any that can leave will'"
Maybe. But it will be interesting to see who was loyal to the cause, and who was there not only to play for a good club with good fans, but only for the number on his p60.
Depends on moral fibre. I was brought up with this and I'm proud to have it. The one's that don't have it, then I won't be sad for them to leave.
I'm hoping the majority stay.
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| This just won't happen, and realistically, why should it?
Players play where they get paid the best money and in the best team they can get.
In pro sport, you can't afford to have moral fibre, you've got bills to pay, kids to feed and a career to protect.
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| How will you tell who is there out of loyalty or who is there for their P60. Some of those staying may still be doing so because of what's on offer. Cockayne won't get a gig elsewhere- but could still be loyal regardless- equally he could stay because he's not earning enough from his pyramid schemes.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"The boulevard was a palace compared to the old CP which even had an old railway box cart in it if my memory serves me correctly. Used to be a great atmosphere in there though as it was very compact and enclosed and I well remember the day casey threw away his international captaincy there. I was also there for the final game (widnes?) and the first game at the new ground (trafford borough?).
I even pulled my boots on and played at the old place'"
You must be saying that tongue in cheek, otherwise you have to be having a laugh.
I went to the Boulevard many times and not always when Rovers were there.
I had an old mate who had the Bass house pub in town and he was as black and white as they came, but now and again if one or the others team wasn't playing, we would go and watch each other's side play, me watch Hull and vice a versa.
Now as i remember, before the new threepenny stand was built which incidentally was no where near as good for atmosphere as the old one, you could go down the back of the stand and get a golden shower for free, it was a case of dodge the shower if you get my meaning, how that old stand didn't fall down as a result of damp rot i will never know. If it had been on the go today it would be shut down by the health and environment agency.
Craven park i will grant you was not exactly a showpiece but the west stand was pretty good for viewing the game due to its elevated seating, unlike the Boulevard seating area which was almost at ground level.
The east stand at Craven park was as you say, very compact which made for a brilliant atmosphere, plus it was close to the pitch which made it very intimidating for away teams.
At the top of the stand there was an old train carriage which was used to serve hot drinks and sausage rolls, hot dogs etc, great for a cold day which of course was often the case those days as it was played mostly during the winter months.
I was also there for that final game against widnes which was televised on the old scrumdown series on itv, it was a sad day but nothing lasts forever.
A bit like our super league status at present along our favourite song about your lot, but never mind i'm sure it wont be long before we are be back up there and singing a new sarcastic song about your shortcomings. ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="Sandro II Terrorista"This just won't happen, and realistically, why should it?
Players play where they get paid the best money and in the best team they can get.
In pro sport, you can't afford to have moral fibre, you've got bills to pay, kids to feed and a career to protect.'"
I don't disagree. It's just how I look at it. They won't be on peanuts if they stayed. I'd imagine if we got towards 3/4s of our cap this year, we could probably afford the players we want with sick note and tubby Buffon to$$er off our wage bill.
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| Quote ="Sandro II Terrorista"This just won't happen, and realistically, why should it?
Players play where they get paid the best money and in the best team they can get.
In pro sport, you can't afford to have moral fibre, you've got bills to pay, kids to feed and a career to protect.'"
I don't disagree. It's just how I look at it. They won't be on peanuts if they stayed. I'd imagine if we got towards 3/4s of our cap this year, we could probably afford the players we want with sick note and tubby Buffon to$$er off our wage bill.
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2 Dixon – FB/W
3 Minns - C
4 Salter - C
5 Mantelato – C/W
6 Blair – SO/SR
7 Marsh – SO/SH
8 Walker - P
9 Lunt - H
10 [u[iScruton (Wakey) - P[/i[/u
11 [u[iBaldwinson (Leeds) – P/SR[/i[/u
12 Greenwood – P/SR
13 Donaldson – SR/LF
14 [u[iAddy (Bradford) – SO/SH/LF[/i[/u
15 Lawler – SR/LF
16 Horn - SR
17 W Jubb - H
18 Mulhearn - P
19 Oakes - W
20 Wardel – W/C/SR
21 [u[iClark (Bradford) - P[/i[/u
22 Moran - SR
23 Cator - SR
24 [u[iHarris (City of Hull Academy) – SO/SH[/i[/u
25 [u[iButler (City of Hull Academy) – P/SR[/i[/u
26 [u[iT Jubbs (City of Hull Academy) - H[/i[/u
With the players leaving the club, I'd hope to think we can offer similar deals to Lunt, Blair, Mantelato, Greenwood, and Minns but maybe with a one year deal, allowing them to leave should we not gain promotion at the first attempt. With bringing in some Championship experience in Scruton, Addy and Clark all who have played at Bradford in the league and maybe JP can tap Leeds up to get hold of Baldwinson who has spent the past two season on loan at Featherstone and been in the leagues young player of the year awards shortlist winning it in 2015, I'd be really confident that with a young side with experience in key areas and a quality coach of making an immediate return. Also to bring on Harris who has been amazing for the academy this year along with Butler and both Jubbs we will really have a homegrown feel to the squad, determined to get us back to where we belong.
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| Quote ="deffa123"1 Shaw – FB/W
2 Dixon – FB/W
3 Minns - C
4 Salter - C
5 Mantelato – C/W
6 Blair – SO/SR
7 Marsh – SO/SH
8 Walker - P
9 Lunt - H
10 [u[iScruton (Wakey) - P[/i[/u
11 [u[iBaldwinson (Leeds) – P/SR[/i[/u
12 Greenwood – P/SR
13 Donaldson – SR/LF
14 [u[iAddy (Bradford) – SO/SH/LF[/i[/u
15 Lawler – SR/LF
16 Horn - SR
17 W Jubb - H
18 Mulhearn - P
19 Oakes - W
20 Wardel – W/C/SR
21 [u[iClark (Bradford) - P[/i[/u
22 Moran - SR
23 Cator - SR
24 [u[iHarris (City of Hull Academy) – SO/SH[/i[/u
25 [u[iButler (City of Hull Academy) – P/SR[/i[/u
26 [u[iT Jubbs (City of Hull Academy) - H[/i[/u
With the players leaving the club, I'd hope to think we can offer similar deals to Lunt, Blair, Mantelato, Greenwood, and Minns but maybe with a one year deal, allowing them to leave should we not gain promotion at the first attempt. With bringing in some Championship experience in Scruton, Addy and Clark all who have played at Bradford in the league and maybe JP can tap Leeds up to get hold of Baldwinson who has spent the past two season on loan at Featherstone and been in the leagues young player of the year awards shortlist winning it in 2015, I'd be really confident that with a young side with experience in key areas and a quality coach of making an immediate return. Also to bring on Harris who has been amazing for the academy this year along with Butler and both Jubbs we will really have a homegrown feel to the squad, determined to get us back to where we belong.'"
Yes to all these, except Dixon, Salter and Horne. No defence, no attack, no pace respectively. For me, Graeme Horne was at fault for the last second equalising try at the weekend. As a makeshift centre, he is complete pants in that position and always has been.
Cockayne will stay and play for next to nowt. Hope Thornley and Tilse stay as well. I expect Sheens will add 3 Aussie emerging stars, which is code for fringe NRL players. 2 need to be big forward biffers, the other a talented halfback.
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| Quote ="deffa123"1 Shaw – FB/W
2 Dixon – FB/W
3 Minns - C
4 Salter - C
5 Mantelato – C/W
6 Blair – SO/SR
7 Marsh – SO/SH
8 Walker - P
9 Lunt - H
10 [u[iScruton (Wakey) - P[/i[/u
11 [u[iBaldwinson (Leeds) – P/SR[/i[/u
12 Greenwood – P/SR
13 Donaldson – SR/LF
14 [u[iAddy (Bradford) – SO/SH/LF[/i[/u
15 Lawler – SR/LF
16 Horn - SR
17 W Jubb - H
18 Mulhearn - P
19 Oakes - W
20 Wardel – W/C/SR
21 [u[iClark (Bradford) - P[/i[/u
22 Moran - SR
23 Cator - SR
24 [u[iHarris (City of Hull Academy) – SO/SH[/i[/u
25 [u[iButler (City of Hull Academy) – P/SR[/i[/u
26 [u[iT Jubbs (City of Hull Academy) - H[/i[/u
With the players leaving the club, I'd hope to think we can offer similar deals to Lunt, Blair, Mantelato, Greenwood, and Minns but maybe with a one year deal, allowing them to leave should we not gain promotion at the first attempt. With bringing in some Championship experience in Scruton, Addy and Clark all who have played at Bradford in the league and maybe JP can tap Leeds up to get hold of Baldwinson who has spent the past two season on loan at Featherstone and been in the leagues young player of the year awards shortlist winning it in 2015, I'd be really confident that with a young side with experience in key areas and a quality coach of making an immediate return. Also to bring on Harris who has been amazing for the academy this year along with Butler and both Jubbs we will really have a homegrown feel to the squad, determined to get us back to where we belong.'"
I'd be very surprised if you kept some of those players but if you did you'd certainly win the Championship with ease. However, the majority of that squad is responsible for your relegation and I would back any Super League team to beat it in the MPG. Super League teams will be well advanced with recruitment and retention for next season but Rovers have only just started. As a Hull fan I may be in the minority but I'd like Rovers back in SL (getting hammered every week of course) but they face a massive struggle to get back in unless a team implodes like Bradford did a few years ago.
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| Quote ="deffa123"1 Shaw – FB/W
2 Dixon – FB/W
3 Minns - C
4 Salter - C
5 Mantelato – C/W
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7 Marsh – SO/SH
8 Walker - P
9 Lunt - H
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13 Donaldson – SR/LF
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17 W Jubb - H
18 Mulhearn - P
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20 Wardel – W/C/SR
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22 Moran - SR
23 Cator - SR
24 [u[iHarris (City of Hull Academy) – SO/SH[/i[/u
25 [u[iButler (City of Hull Academy) – P/SR[/i[/u
26 [u[iT Jubbs (City of Hull Academy) - H[/i[/u
With the players leaving the club, I'd hope to think we can offer similar deals to Lunt, Blair, Mantelato, Greenwood, and Minns but maybe with a one year deal, allowing them to leave should we not gain promotion at the first attempt. With bringing in some Championship experience in Scruton, Addy and Clark all who have played at Bradford in the league and maybe JP can tap Leeds up to get hold of Baldwinson who has spent the past two season on loan at Featherstone and been in the leagues young player of the year awards shortlist winning it in 2015, I'd be really confident that with a young side with experience in key areas and a quality coach of making an immediate return. Also to bring on Harris who has been amazing for the academy this year along with Butler and both Jubbs we will really have a homegrown feel to the squad, determined to get us back to where we belong.'"
Nick Scruton hasn't played in the Championship he left Bradford in 2014 before we got relegated.
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| I can't see Addy or Clark coming. They've been commited to the Bulls for some time. If they DO come, it signifies that their isn't a lot of faith in Bulls getting promoted next year or there are still a lot of financial issues there.
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Addy might now stay at Bulls, Clark has only had one season at Odsal. I reckon he is more likely to leave.
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| Quote ="Gallanteer"I can't see Addy or Clark coming. They've been commited to the Bulls for some time. If they DO come, it signifies that their isn't a lot of faith in Bulls getting promoted next year or there are still a lot of financial issues there.'"
We're on limited funds, that is for sure. It might be that Bradford have already assembled next year's squad based on the assumption that both were leaving. It's very late in the day to start shoehorning people into a squad and managing cashflow, which is one of the many flaws in deciding what league you'll be playing in so late in the day.
fwiw I still think both will leave. Clark to you lot, Addy to Wakey.
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