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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Just trying to keep you all honest.'"
I was trying to catch up with "The Apprentice", this statement caused my whole fecking Hill Top Lair to implode.
Quote ="Mrs Barista" pantomime villain'"
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| PANTOMINE being the operatve word Mrs B
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| can think of more appropriate words but the mods might say something!!
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"You're missing the point.'"
Do you know, i think you're right.
Anyway,now it's been established that season pass sales " are" up on this time " last year!" , this is more good news from CP this closed season.
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| so flipping what, please disappear onto the fc board, apparently you support them!!!!
Slightly edited but i think the point still remains.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Not really - only if statements 1 and 3 are correct and 2 was false. Naughty.
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If we continue point 2 a little further to involve the actual figures quoted, and not conveniently miss them out, then all 3 statments are correct, the only sticking point being your interpretation of the word comparable, although the statement is backed up with figures.
1) In November 2008 sales were over 6000.
2)In November 2009 the direct quote from Hudgell was "Figures for season pass sales are comparable with last year at this stage give or take a few...... " the bit you conveniently missed out"->..it’s encouraging that we’ve already sold more than 700 passes to people who’ve not bought one before. The Rovers membership is above 5000, although has reached a plateau slightly the last few weeks." <-
3)In December 2010, with a couple of extra weeks of sales under their belt, we're now told that sales are 5500 and that is up on the same time last year.
Are you disputing the 5000 figure, even though you did a link to Hudgell saying this?
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| Quote ="GraftonRed"If we continue point 2 a little further to involve the actual figures quoted, and not conveniently miss them out, then all 3 statments are correct, the only sticking point being your interpretation of the word comparable, although the statement is backed up with figures.
1) In November 2008 sales were over 6000.
2)In November 2009 the direct quote from Hudgell was "Figures for season pass sales are comparable with last year at this stage give or take a few...... "the bit you conveniently missed out"->..it’s encouraging that we’ve already sold more than 700 passes to people who’ve not bought one before. The Rovers membership is above 5000, although has reached a plateau slightly the last few weeks." <-
3)In December 2010, with a couple of extra weeks of sales under their belt, we're now told that sales are 5500 and that is up on the same time last year.
Are you disputing the 5000 figure, even though you did a link to Hudgell saying this?'"
Don't confuse the old dear. With season passes being up on the comparitive period last season, the East stand extension and the North stand funding and the Willie Mason signing it's not been a very good off season for Mrs B
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| Quote ="Bertie"Don't confuse the old dear. With season passes being up on the comparitive period last season, the East stand extension and the North stand funding and the Willie Mason signing it's not been a very good off season for Mrs B
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Quote ="Roofs"Hey so what's the story with the Elf avatar?'"
Quote ="Mrs Barista"One of my favourite films. Have you seen it? I do like Elves'"
Perhaps we may get a rest from 5.40 until 7.30 this Sunday then.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Not really - only if statements 1 and 3 are correct and 2 was false. Naughty.
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Mrs B are you a retired accountant?
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| Quote ="GraftonRed"If we continue point 2 a little further to involve the actual figures quoted, and not conveniently miss them out, then all 3 statments are correct, the only sticking point being your interpretation of the word comparable, although the statement is backed up with figures.
1) In November 2008 sales were over 6000.
2)In November 2009 the direct quote from Hudgell was "Figures for season pass sales are comparable with last year at this stage give or take a few...... "the bit you conveniently missed out"->..it’s encouraging that we’ve already sold more than 700 passes to people who’ve not bought one before. The Rovers membership is above 5000, although has reached a plateau slightly the last few weeks." <-
3)In December 2010, with a couple of extra weeks of sales under their belt, we're now told that sales are 5500 and that is up on the same time last year.
Are you disputing the 5000 figure, even though you did a link to Hudgell saying this?'"
The 5000 number references Club [uRovers membership,[/u not pass sales. Plenty of people bought a pass without Club Rovers membership, others became members without a pass. They are 2 separate things. Hudgell is quite clear that season pass sales in November 2009 were were in line with November 2008. The giveaway here is his use of the phrase "[uSeason pass sales [/uare in line with this time last year give or take a few. The 5000 refers to Club Rovers membership. The giveaway phrase here is "[uRovers membership[/u". He then qualifies this by saying people don't fully understand Club Rovers. A reasonable effort on your part, but sadly unsuccessful.
Even if you were right (which you're not) and the 5000 referred to season passholders in November 2009, that would still make either the declared 6000 in 2008 incorrect, because Hudgell is saying at 5000, November 2009 sales were in line with November 2008, or the statement that November 2009 sales at 5000 were in line with November 2008 was incorrect. Either way, these three statements are not fully compatible, as well you know.
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| Feck me, I'm considering buying five thousand season tickets myself just to put an end to this whirlpool of an argument.
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| The word meaning of the word 'comparable' is open to interpretation. Mrs B's is legitimate, but not definitive. Based on the assumptions she has adopted, her logic is sound. The basis of her interpretation may reflect a natural unbiased response to 'comparable', a healthy scepticism or a desperate reflexive need to score a point, no matter how narrow or contrived.
By interpreting 'comparable' in a different way we can have an argument to keep us warm / bore us rigid through the long, cold off-season.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"The 5000 number references Club [uRovers membership,[/u not pass sales. Plenty of people bought a pass without Club Rovers membership, others became members without a pass. They are 2 separate things. Hudgell is quite clear that season pass sales in November 2009 were were in line with November 2008. The giveaway here is his use of the phrase "[uSeason pass sales [/uare in line with this time last year give or take a few. The 5000 refers to Club Rovers membership. The giveaway phrase here is "[uRovers membership[/u". He then qualifies this by saying people don't fully understand Club Rovers. A reasonable effort on your part, but sadly unsuccessful.
Even if you were right (which you're not) and the 5000 referred to season passholders in November 2009, that would still make either the declared 6000 in 2008 incorrect, because Hudgell is saying at 5000, November 2009 sales were in line with November 2008, or the statement that November 2009 sales at 5000 were in line with November 2008 was incorrect. Either way, these three statements are not fully compatible, as well you know.
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So your saying "we haven't sold as many at this time this year as we did last year"?
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| Great to see Rovers try to push on with sales by bringing in the "pay half before christmas and half in the new year" initiative. You even get the Pass before christmas which will be activated when the second payment is received.
You cant do that with an old style paper pass! Well done Rovers.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Great to see Rovers try to push on with sales by bringing in the "pay half before christmas and half in the new year" initiative. You even get the Pass before christmas which will be activated when the second payment is received.
You cant do that with an old style paper pass! Well done Rovers.'"
Totally agree, very good move that by the club. Well done.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Great to see Rovers try to push on with sales by bringing in the "pay half before christmas and half in the new year" initiative. You even get the Pass before christmas which will be activated when the second payment is received.
You cant do that with an old style paper pass! Well done Rovers.'"
Good initiative by Rovers here to soften the financial blow over Christmas but why do you need to physically have your pass before the second payment anyway?
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Good initiative by Rovers here to soften the financial blow over Christmas but why do you need to physically have your pass before the second payment anyway?
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To give to somebody as a Christmas present perhaps.......Looks better than just giving a receipt.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Good initiative by Rovers here to soften the financial blow over Christmas but why do you need to physically have your pass before the second payment anyway?
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If its a christmas pressie you can give them the actual pass
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| Quote ="R.B.A"To give to somebody as a Christmas present perhaps.......Looks better than just giving a receipt.'"
I suppose it also gives the new pass holder the opportunity to use the pass in store for discounts etc.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"I suppose it also gives the new pass holder the opportunity to use the pass in store for discounts etc.'"
I like what you have tried to do there mate.
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| Quote ="GraftonRed"So your saying "we haven't sold as many at this time this year as we did last year"?
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I'm saying that all three statements can't be true, unless by "comparable" Hudgell meant "down at least 500" in November 2009. Do keep up. I've been validated by Mild Rover. That's not a euphemism BTW.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"I like what you have tried to do there mate.
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Then you misunderstand me RBA (dont judge me by your standards! ). Shop discounts, meet the players events, etc usually favour the passholder.
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