Just one point on the electronic turnstyle system. Whats to stop an adult buying a junior pass and using it themselves?

Meet the new Rufus:

You could do with stewards like that

That model still has trouble with stairs

Only when you lot visit

This is a small point regarding the stadium, but as we bought the golf stand(95 % sure we did

) Can we please those god awful green seats red!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just a note on the electronic turnstyles; I read that they will cost £90,000.

Based on the entry price of £20 if it adds an extra 346 fans per game for one full season (by charging those who have previously not been paying) then the turnstyles break even. Plus the other future benefits.

So, we need to spend 90K because we currently employ people who are incompetant or bent?

I could think of 100 things better to spend 90K on, and then a spot of staff training &/or on-the-spot sackings would sort out the problem.

Must admit it seems a large number to be getting in for gratis, surely it would be cheaper to employ better staff?

On the other hand, do the turnstyles do away with the need for staff?...if so more money saved there.

And of course more redundancies.

Who the hell are 346 fans getting in without paying?

Is there actually thought to be a problem with 'fare-dodging'? This hasn't been a primary concern for other clubs that have installed this type of system, from what little I've read.

If all grounds are going to have to fit these turnstiles for safety regulations in the future then maybe rovers are getting in early whilst they are still at this price. You would think that if it becomes a requirement that the manufacturers will hike up the price of them once they know that the clubs have to have them ???????

If my information from a contractor is correct you could be pleasantly surprised during the close season

East stand extension has to be the priority. This will fit an additional 1200 Rovers fans in and leave the NTh stand for away fans, meaning the Sth stand really won't need to be used at all.

The other plans are major capital investments and in the current economic climate, not viable.

If we do that we'll increase the capacity but still end up using the South Terrace for big games, and have to put up with all this nonsense again. The sooner the South Terrace is removed the better even if it's replaced by another temporary stand in the short term.

Doubt it, 1200 extra Rovers fans in the East, let Hull have the North and the very few that would be left, if any would use the Sth and we are only talking one game a season. What's the other option, short of finding 6mill to build the new Nth stand.

Remember they don't travel like us so you don't need more than the Nth stand for them.

Forget FC, there seems to be a general feeling that they don't want to come because it means giving Rovers money (i assume Wire, Leeds etc let them in for free), you could put them in a luxury new stand with a comfy seat, but if its stopping giving us MONEY that makes them desert their team for derbies, then its irrelevant what stand you build.

Base it on improving for fans who will support their team without conditions, like Wigan, Leeds, Wire etc.

Conditions like being in SL?

I'd say its a small minority who refuse to go to CP because they dont want to give you any money regardless. Having said that as long as Rovers continue to only charge Hull FC full price for the South stand I will not be returning. I'm sure your all heartbroken

TBH, the money is obviously a massive help to the club, but IMO I couldn't give a to$$ if you lot come or not, so long as I am there and at the KC as well to get behind my team, thats all that matters to me. You could play your home derby on the land fill site off the A63 and I would attend, not because I want to give FC money or I like the aroma of rotting rubbish, more simply to support the lads in the team.

I assume you weren't one of the Rovers fans that were going to boycott the game at the KC because your club wanted 50% of the takings then? This was before you got into SL IIRC so you may not be aware of it



For someone who couldn't give a to$$ if we come or not you sure seem to have talked about it alot.

I went to all the friendlies, the split is up to the clubs to deal with, I just pay my money and go and watch, I leave the politics to the ones who are running the clubs.

I join debates on here, of course, but at the end of the day I am quite happy to see your lads run out to hardly any support leaving all the noise in support of Rovers. I just find some of the excuse not to come pathetic thats all, the individual makes their own mind up on where they spend their money, I happen to choose to spend mine supporting Rovers. Lets face it, if any of the FC who whine are from the pre-KC days, they shouldn't mind having a little bit of wind etc occasionally, I have been following Rovers since 1963 and would say that the majority of that time has been spent in less than luxurious settings (ask some of your lot what the Boulevard was like

)

I dont think anyone complained about the rain/wind or weather in general or having to stand for that matter. We happily put up with that at most away grounds, indeed I prefer to stand at a rugby game. We always take a large number of away fans to grounds that are, overall, worse than CP. If you are going to continue to ignore the reasons people have actually given and just invent your own in order to somehow claim to be a superior super fan we might as well leave it there.

That makes perfect sense to me. Getting the temp stand covered (like quins have) would be another good move.

However I do reckon we'll still suffer from a lack of decent seats for home fans (not everyone wants to stand) and we'd appeal to more families and older folk if we could get more seats.

I wonder if extending the millward stand at each end would be cheaper or more costly than building a new stand?

Maybe a stupid question, but how are these people getting in for free? Forged tickets?