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| Quote ="oddball327"Could be more bad news for Willie if Tonga is hit by the Tsunami which is hitting the Pacific Islands, his passport may get held up even more.'"
Seriously poor taste.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"There is a rule in the RFL operating instructions that says a quota player cannot be de-registered an then re-registered by the same club in the same season without gaining special dispensation from the RFL.'" It's what we do best.
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| Quote ="Roverswall"Indeed Paul I would be ASTOUNDED if he left.
I would also very very suprised if no matter what the RFL said if they hadn't already agreed in secret to green light his re-registration.'"
I'm sure that discussion have taken place, and possibly even assurances issued. Events may yet overtake any such agreements, though. Seems the RFL may have seriously underestimated the backlash.
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"serious question? Probably one of the first times I have been on here, but something really interests me Cananyone tell me why all the hurry? You didn't need Willie for the Crusaders game, you'll beat them easily why not just wait till Willies Tongan passport came through? Why bring all this on yourselves when it was unavoidable? What differnece would a couple more weeks make.'" Rumour is that the RFL were happy for it to happen.
The other clubs got wind of it and the s..t hit the fan.
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| Quote ="pmh"Seriously poor taste.'"
Wasn't meant as a joke, just something that is happening.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I'm sure that discussion have taken place, and possibly even assurances issued. Events may yet overtake any such agreements, though. Seems the RFL may have seriously underestimated the backlash.'" Possibly it just depends how Rovers got that agreement either verbal or written if there was one as it may tie the RFL in knots.
In fact come to that if there was written agreement it could bring the board down.
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| Quote ="Roverswall"Possibly it just depends how Rovers got that agreement either verbal or written if there was one as it may tie the RFL in knots.=#0040FF
In fact come to that if there was written agreement it could bring the board down.'"
Indeed. Which is why I'm fairly confident that there won't be one. The RFL tend to make sure they cover their backsides in case things go Pete Tong.
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| You know Rovers are going to win with the whole Mason saga. I believe that Mason will get his passport and Dobson will still be there's. The RFL will want to see Willie Mason in super league because it will obviously add a bit more spice and increase attendance and possibly participation. They will see it as a good move for English super league. IMO rules are rules and Dobson is no longer there player for this season. As for HULL KINGSTON AUSSIES, WHAT A DISGRACE!
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| Quote ="jehull"You know Rovers are going to win with the whole Mason saga. I believe that Mason will get his passport and Dobson will still be there's. The RFL will want to see Willie Mason in super league because it will obviously add a bit more spice and increase attendance and possibly participation. They will see it as a good move for English super league. IMO rules are rules and Dobson is no longer there player for this season. As for HULL KINGSTON AUSSIES, WHAT A DISGRACE!'"
Get a life you pl**nk and stop shouting.
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| Quote ="jehull"You know Rovers are going to win with the whole Mason saga. I believe that Mason will get his passport and Dobson will still be there's. The RFL will want to see Willie Mason in super league because it will obviously add a bit more spice and increase attendance and possibly participation. They will see it as a good move for English super league. IMO rules are rules and Dobson is nomslonger there player for this season. As for HULL KINGSTON AUSSIES, WHAT A DISGRACE!'"
Aw didums
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| Quote ="Kosh"Indeed. Which is why I'm fairly confident that there won't be one. The RFL tend to make sure they cover their backsides in case things go Pete Tong.'"
Or Pete Tonga.
Coat on already....
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| FWIW, I don't think he will go anywhere.
BUT, The things that I don't understand are:
Why, even if it is all blown out of proportion, would a team even take a tiny, slight chance with their best player? The man who has been most influential in their time in the SL?
Also, this must mean that he is receiving private rehab for his injury, away from HKR, as the rules state a club cannot train or condition a player who is not on their club register?
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| Quote ="jehull" IMO rules are rules '"
And we're within them you massive spanner. Careful you don't spill your milk down your bib with outrage.
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| or... the RFL board approve re-registration, but the Council of clubs veto it - RFL in the clear and the rest of the clubs smug at getting one over KR.
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| Quote ="Mick Cranes Sidestep"or... the RFL board approve re-registration, but the Council of clubs veto it - RFL in the clear and the rest of the clubs smug at getting one over KR.'"
Can't see any mention in the Operational Rules of any such power of veto. I might have missed it though.
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| Quote ="Mick Cranes Sidestep"or... the RFL board approve re-registration, but the Council of clubs veto it - RFL in the clear and the rest of the clubs smug at getting one over KR.'"
The clubs will not want to deny us something they migh need themselves one day.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"FWIW, I don't think he will go anywhere.
BUT, The things that I don't understand are:
Why, even if it is all blown out of proportion, would a team even take a tiny, slight chance with their best player? The man who has been most influential in their time in the SL?
Also, this must mean that he is receiving private rehab for his injury, away from HKR, as the rules state a club cannot train or condition a player who is not on their club register?'"
Kosh, with his underground network of informants, I think is probably nearest to the truth.
Rovers' speak to the RFL about getting Mason over on one of his myriad passports (he's got more than James Ruddy Bond), RFL say okay, Mason arrives. Other parties with interest (SL chair people/who ever) find out, contact the RFL. Rovers' forced into this course of action as a face saving exercise for all concererned.
Mason becomes Tongan, Dobson re instated, episode concluded.
Summat like that.
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| Quote ="rover49"
The clubs will not want to deny us something they migh need themselves one day.'"
You might need a laugh one day. And we'd all get one.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"FWIW, I don't think he will go anywhere.
BUT, The things that I don't understand are:
Why, even if it is all blown out of proportion, would a team even take a tiny, slight chance with their best player? The man who has been most influential in their time in the SL?
Also, this must mean that he is receiving private rehab for his injury, away from HKR, as the rules state a club cannot train or condition a player who is not on their club register?'"
i agree taking any chances with Dobbo is insane, thats why I'm hoping there is no risk of losing him whatsoever.
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| Quote ="rover49"
The clubs will not want to deny us something they migh need themselves one day.'"
Yes, because RL clubs have no history whatsoever of cutting their own noses off to spite their faces.
Also, everyone else has managed just fine for years. Only Rovers are incompetent enough to need special treatment.
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| Just for the record, Stacey Jones did the same at Catalans.
He broke his arm in Round 2, they de-registered him, ironically they signed a certain Dobson lol, and then in Round 15 Jones played again and Dobson returned to Canberra.
Players can come off the quota whenever (in the way Mason will anyways), so as soon as Mason's clearance comes through (next few days) Mason will then come off quota, and Dobson can go back on.
The word terminated has been misused in this instance. Btw, the 30 page thread on Stacy Jones at the time was excellent reading....
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| Quote ="Scott_HKR"Just for the record, Stacey Jones did the same at Catalans.
He broke his arm in Round 2, they de-registered him, ironically they signed a certain Dobson lol, and then in Round 15 Jones played again and Dobson returned to Canberra.
Players can come off the quota whenever (in the way Mason will anyways), so as soon as Mason's clearance comes through ([unext few days[/u) Mason will then come off quota, and Dobson can go back on.
The word terminated has been misused in this instance. Btw, the 30 page thread on Stacy Jones at the time was excellent reading....
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How many times have he heard that in the last few months
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| Quote ="Kosh"Yes, because RL clubs have no history whatsoever of cutting their own noses off to spite their faces.
Also, everyone else has managed just fine for years. Only Rovers are incompetent enough to need special treatment.
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Or clever enough to get it in the first place.
I for one cannot wait for the day we have a side full of locally trained lads, but even after 4 seasons, we are playing catch up in this area. If we had not brought in these players we would more likley to have been in the bottom 2 each season and in danger of not getting a licence.
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| Quote ="Scott_HKR"Just for the record, Stacey Jones did the same at Catalans.
He broke his arm in Round 2, they de-registered him, ironically they signed a certain Dobson lol, and then in Round 15 Jones played again and Dobson returned to Canberra.
Players can come off the quota whenever (in the way Mason will anyways), so as soon as Mason's clearance comes through (next few days) Mason will then come off quota, and Dobson can go back on.
The word terminated has been misused in this instance. Btw, the 30 page thread on Stacy Jones at the time was excellent reading....
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That was 5 years ago. Not sure if the rules were even the same back then, but they're pretty clear now. And it was a temporary replacement not a permanent addition.
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