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| Quote ="red al":80xp9xv0apparently had 8 fresh players back who were rested against celtic, good use of rotation. thought before the game we were going to be lightweight in the front row. wish millsy would pull his finger out, get a bit of form goin and get back in the mix.'" , Mason. Only 2 regular first-teamers in those 5.
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| Huddersfield are going to become a problem for Super League the way things are going.
They seem to have a coach who wants to introduce wrestling techniques and spoiling tactics. Or anything else on the borderline of legality that might give his side an edge.
That's very good for Huddersfield but very bad for Super League as a spectacle.
I do believe that last season they wouldn't have got away with half of it. But the stats show that refs are awarding only half the penalties this year than last. Great news for the spoilers.
Sooner or later if this is not stopped every team will follow suit. For the good of Super League as a whole the RFL must instruct referees to clamp down.
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| Deary me. How pathetic. Thought your nickname was "Robins" not "Whinos".
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| Quote ="Ivor C&G Scarf"Deary me. How pathetic. Thought your nickname was "Robins" not "Whinos".'"
His record of 21 posts in 3 years would suggest that he doesn't speak for the club!
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| Quote ="His Bobness"Huddersfield are going to become a problem for Super League the way things are going.
They seem to have a coach who wants to introduce wrestling techniques and spoiling tactics. Or anything else on the borderline of legality that might give his side an edge.
That's very good for Huddersfield but very bad for Super League as a spectacle.
I do believe that last season they wouldn't have got away with half of it. But the stats show that refs are awarding only half the penalties this year than last. Great news for the spoilers.
Sooner or later if this is not stopped every team will follow suit. For the good of Super League as a whole the RFL must instruct referees to clamp down.'"
I agree completeley, its the holding down and pushing of the offside that really gets me, it makes for a terrible game. Time after time on the scrum Hudds has no interest and broke a number of times.
If the ref had stamped his mark early in the game i think the game would have been alot more of a spectacle, the constant pushing of the rules and incosistency from the ref left us frustrated.
Quins are a team which have a similar style to Hudds, the seem to slow the game down to the point it barely moves.
Fair play to Hudds they desereved the win but as a sporting spectacle it was dismal.
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| Quote ="His Bobness"Huddersfield are going to become a problem for Super League the way things are going.
They seem to have a coach who wants to introduce wrestling techniques and spoiling tactics. Or anything else on the borderline of legality that might give his side an edge.
That's very good for Huddersfield but very bad for Super League as a spectacle.
I do believe that last season they wouldn't have got away with half of it. But the stats show that refs are awarding only half the penalties this year than last. Great news for the spoilers.
Sooner or later if this is not stopped every team will follow suit. For the good of Super League as a whole the RFL must instruct referees to clamp down.'"
Is that you Justin
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| Quote ="Gahan"Is that you Justin
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Still in the game on the scoreboard only. Rovers were getting murdered in the collision and round the ruck, Robinson was kicking them to death and it was just a matter of time before Rovers fatigued. If Lovegrove had have stayed on the result would have been the same.
They have big forwards, pacy backs and clever halves. Their coach is top class and has them very well drilled and well organised.
The comments on Thaler are just pathetic.'"
Thaler was an embarrassment to decency in refereeing, he was so biased it was sickening.
Hudds were better than us, I agree, they deserved their win without a doubt, but its difficult for a side to get any momentum going at the play the ball when the officials totally ignore the rules of offside for 80 mins (apart from when he penalised us for it). The disgusting policing of their defensive line was also contrubutory to the two injuries to Fozzy and Lovegrove, they were hit before they had chance to get moving, not because the Hudds players were on speed, but because they were two metres in front of the officials and got away with it.
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| Look lads and lasses,when that French berk cost us a game and we whinged about it,we got pilloried by some of you lot,now your doing the same,double standards methinks.
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| Some breathtaking hypocrisy on display from both fans and coach.
I think the word 'diddums' seems most appropriate at this time.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Especially since this is his reaction to controversial refereeing decisions that Rovers benefit from:
"We have been on the end of good and bad calls all season. Everyone has. It is what gets in the box at the end and that’s two points for us.”
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No-one is too bothered about the odd poor decision, but today was about decisions he did NOT make rather than bad ones he MADE. He allowed Hudds to be offside every PTB (and only took them back about 8 metres), they were allowed so much laying on time I thought they might need a sleeping bag to keep them warm. All teams have had forward passes go against them, but the amount he ignored today was criminal, including two very obvious ones in the build up to Wilds try.
If you had been their, even with your B&W specs on you would have agreed that the level of competence he showed was probably around under 9's leagues.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Some breathtaking hypocrisy on display from both fans and coach.
I think the word 'diddums' seems most appropriate at this time.
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As you didnt watch the game i fail to see how your entitled to that opinion.
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"As you didnt watch the game i fail to see how your entitled to that opinion.'"
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"As you didnt watch the game i fail to see how your entitled to that opinion.'"
What were your thoughts Rob?
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| Quote ="rover49"No-one is too bothered about the odd poor decision, but today was about decisions he did NOT make rather than bad ones he MADE. He allowed Hudds to be offside every PTB (and only took them back about 8 metres), they were allowed so much laying on time I thought they might need a sleeping bag to keep them warm. All teams have had forward passes go against them, but the amount he ignored today was criminal, including two very obvious ones in the build up to Wilds try.
If you had been their, even with your B&W specs on you would have agreed that the level of competence he showed was probably around under 9's leagues.'"
Hudds are a physical team that come to spoil, been the same since Adam was a lad. You need a big bench and a gameplan to deal with it. Surprised Morgan got it so wrong as he's usually pretty good with the tactics. No need to have such a massive and personal tantrum after the game. Show a bit of dignity and get a meeting with the RFL this week with the appropriate video evidence. Done himself no favours at all with the public slamming of Thaler, especially as he's got previous for slating referees.
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| Quote ="His Bobness"Huddersfield are going to become a problem for Super League the way things are going.
They seem to have a coach who wants to introduce wrestling techniques and spoiling tactics. Or anything else on the borderline of legality that might give his side an edge.
That's very good for Huddersfield but very bad for Super League as a spectacle.
I do believe that last season they wouldn't have got away with half of it. But the stats show that refs are awarding only half the penalties this year than last. Great news for the spoilers.
Sooner or later if this is not stopped every team will follow suit. For the good of Super League as a whole the RFL must instruct referees to clamp down.'"
It's a tough balance between stopping teams getting away with stuff and awarding penalties, and letting the game flow.
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| Quote ="General Zod."It's a tough balance between stopping teams getting away with stuff and awarding penalties, and letting the game flow.'"
What you do is 'ok lads, thats one offside, lets keep them to a minimum' then you penalise them, you dont just let it go for 80 minutes, it makes a mockery out of having rules.
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| Quote ="Gahan"What were your thoughts Rob?'"
Thaler kept a poor 10 metres but did it for both sides in fairness.
It looks as though Huddersfield have introduced the flat pass more into their game this year and that must be difficult to referee.
As ive said in another thread Thaler did miss two blatent forward passes but knock on's in the next tackle prevented them being major talking points.
I didnt see anything untoward with the tackle in which Lovegrove was injured.
Teams will seek advantages and its upto the referee to impose himself, if Hudds are guilty of laying on and getting away with it then more fool Rovers for not doing likewise.
Although i hope this is looked at more closely or it will promote the Aussie style of defence orientated games.
Having interviewed JM afterwards he was clearly very annoyed but he did credit Hudds for the win.
He obviously felt he needed to make a point but to describe it as a rant is just untrue.
When Thaler reffed the NRL Cup Final in 2005 between us and Cas in 2005 i thought he would kick on to be a really good official.
I dont think he has progressed enough to be considered a top referee yet.
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| maybe we are "getting away with" laying on etc but the so called top four have been doing it for years and nothing said. as soon as its a so called bottom of the table side we are bad mouthed. only from the teams we beat mind not the ones we have lost to.
as for the "chicken wing tackle" one on the radio said it was a chicken wing the other said was nothing untoward. be interesting to see if its called up for disciplinary as i didnt see i cant personallly comment.
hope you have a good run for the rest of the season and show the so called top clubs we are all catching up with them!
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| IF the RFL had anything about them and watched the video in its entirety then Thaler would be up before the court this week charged with impersonating a referee and the trading standards for dishonesty.
Perhaps he found the wrong profession in life and should have been a comedian....off the field, i mean.
TBH, even Hull Fc could have beaten us with this joker in charge.
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Thaler kept a poor 10 metres but did it for both sides in fairness.
It looks as though Huddersfield have introduced the flat pass more into their game this year and that must be difficult to referee.
As ive said in another thread Thaler did miss two blatent forward passes but knock on's in the next tackle prevented them being major talking points.
I didnt see anything untoward with the tackle in which Lovegrove was injured.
Teams will seek advantages and its upto the referee to impose himself, if Hudds are guilty of laying on and getting away with it then more fool Rovers for not doing likewise.
Although i hope this is looked at more closely or it will promote the Aussie style of defence orientated games.
Having interviewed JM afterwards he was clearly very annoyed but he did credit Hudds for the win.
He obviously felt he needed to make a point but to describe it as a rant is just untrue.
When Thaler reffed the NRL Cup Final in 2005 between us and Cas in 2005 i thought he would kick on to be a really good official.
I dont think he has progressed enough to be considered a top referee yet.'"
A sensible post at last.
I am sure that refs this season are advised to be more tolerant at the tackle re slowing the game down. I have watched all the Giants games this season as well as many other teams. It is the same fort both teams. In SL it appears that there is an attempt to encourage a slower PTB ala Australia style which it is hoped will encourage more skilful play than quick play and running from Dummy half.
I do not really like it but have to get used to it, BUT it is the same for all teams. Morgans moaning was EXCATLY the same as NOBLES which was shot down on boots and All by Cullen, Eddie and Stevo.
As for the offside again i am sure refs are instructed to blkow less than previously. Most refs now take the teams back 12 metres and then let them encroach as the ball is played.
I am sure that most of you still hav eyour Godd Friday game taped. If so watch it again and tell me how many times HKR had all their players onside
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| Penalty count was extremely low. Mr T hardly gave any penalties and what he gave were correct. He let the game flow - as he has done all season.
I'm sure that you lot are correct when saying that we were offside quite a lot. I'm also convinced that your team were far from angels and were also offside. However, being seated in the £20dump I have no way of telling.
Our holding down was shorter than most teams - and KR held down just as long/short.
The tackling issue has been all the way to Mr Cummings. Even Boots & All has done a feature on it. Nothing wrong. Absolutely nothing.
From what I have seen of Mr Thaler this season [twice before today he treated us no different to the opposition, & the opposition no different to us. He lets the game flow - none of your stop/start Mr Ganson stuff - ignores the 'minor' offences but pulls up the 'major' ones.
He is by far the best referee I've seen for a long time.
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| thaler is way better than the french ref who doesn't even seem to know the rules of the game. All refs seem to be less inclined to blow up this seaon. Did ganson give any penalties in the derby for offside?
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