Yes but we do not want him back

Just seems to do the bare minimum on the pitch. Obviously got ability but I agree Heff n Minns look good centres. Radio Humberside playing interview with Sheens and he's looking for new players at world cup

I reckon he`ll be looking at the Aussie players playing fro Lebanon, Tonga, Italy, Samoa and Papua. Hopefully he can unearth a few gems who are under the radar.

Having listened to the BBC podcast with Tim Sheens & this seasons results I will back his judgement to the end. If he deems any suit our needs then great but I would sooner have a prospect than some of the names who will have got their side relegated. Also as a marker I would never have a player who jumped ship when we went down so Thornley is a big no for me.

Cannot see Thornley ever entering TS's mind. Does that mean you would never have a player who jumps ship from another relegated club?

Players have a short career and have families to support. Their first consideration has to be their family and club loyalty comes second. People who would never give a second thought about moving job for a better wage or conditions seem to want to denigrate players when they exercise the same right in their job.

I would not feel right taking players who jump ship. I like sport & sporting behaviour. Call it old fashioned but there are points of honour in ones way of conducting your life. I don't care if it is a short career like every person it is your choice to follow any career path, you don't play rugby to make money you play it because it is what you do, anything else is a bonus.

My old dad used to say " if your lucky enough to be born with a good pair of arms and legs and don't sell them to the highest bidder, than your a fool"
That mantra apply to anyone in any walk of life. Be you a sportsman, engineer or a brain surgeon.
So when a player moves on for more money or security I always say goodbye and good luck. But taking them back is a whole different discussion.
In the case for Thornley, we wouldn't be improving on what we already have so no. But let's say Josh Hodgson wanted to come back, that would be a no brainer.

Sentiment and loyalty are wonderful values, but in a very short sporting career are not always wise.

It's not old fashioned it's naive.

But sport is different to a typical job. Youngsters initially sign because they love playing rugby and want to progress, not caring about the money, but by the time they get to their mid to late 20's, and they may now have families to support & mortgages to pay, their priorities rightly change and they have a lot more things to consider than they did when they signed your first professional contract.

Not all players are jumping ship, some are pushed. for instance I don't think for one minute we would have wanted to keep Thornley, he was ineffective and apparently very expensive. Similar with Mantellato and Sio, both most likely were offered less cash to stay, can't blame them for jumping.

I think the only player that took a major amount of flack was Walker and that was more to do with us sticking by him and him being the first to run to the hills. (Campese seemed to escape that kind of flack somehow, god know why).

If a player from a relegated club improves us and fits in TS's ethos then welcome aboard.

It seems that folk on here feel able to suggest that players that they don't personally rate should be off loaded even when they are not at the end of their contract but when a player wants to leave he is being disloyal.

Indeed. Double standards from your owner last year when he was happy to cut loose those he didn't want but complained when others went of their own accord.

Why should any player accept playing at a lower standard if tehy can better themselves? Some will choose to hang around and toss it off for a year in the championship whilst others want to play at the best standard they can

All contacts are void after relegation unless clause stating otherwise is inserted. Only Larroyer would have stayed if he could and he had been woeful towards the send of the season. Hudge only commented on one player leaving and that was due to the unusual circumstance involved.

I hope your dig helped to make you feel better,

Was really pleased when we signed Thornely but he was a disappointment, has no aggression when he runs for such a big man and seems lazy and lethargic. Would never resign him. He was obviously offered what they thought he was worth when we were relegated.

Might be some players leave Salford after Koucash took his ball home !

Hopefully one will be a guy who's name sounds like an Indian curry!

Gareth O`Brian??

You know your currys!

It's not a dig, it's the truth

Do you have a link to the truth as you call it.

Rogan Tompkins?

Sweet n Sau ?

Murdoch Masala?

150 years?

Daniel 'Ruby' Murray
Rogan Josh Jones