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| TBF Bertie, with their prop targets disappearing over the horizon, (LMS to Saints, Hargreaves to Bulls, Fielden staying put) they had no choice but to up their offer to keep him.
Rovers need to get Wheeldon tied down quickly, 'cos decent props are as rare as hens teeth.
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| Rule actually said that they are happy with the wage structure although "there are exceptions where market forces dictate you may pay above that level"
as Gorka has already said. if the other targets have signed elsewhere then we would be daft not to increase our offer to radford.
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| Quote ="The Goroka Gene-ius"
Rovers need to get Wheeldon tied down quickly, 'cos decent props are as rare as hens teeth.'"
TBH I reckon Hull are more likely to up their offer for Dowes before offering Wheeldon a contract but you never know!
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| Quote ="Bertie"
Wouldn't have thought this precedence was very good for future wage negotiations for the club, although iv'e no doubt their players will regard this as a victory in boosting their earning power.'"
Thats not true at all just ask Craig Hall or Mark Calderwood!
Had Hull's prop targets accepted their offers then there is a fair chance both Radders and Dowes would have had their contract offers removed.
Its a gamble holding on but neither the club nor the players in these positions are in full control because of all the external factors.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Thats not true at all just ask Craig Hall or Mark Calderwood!
Had Hull's prop targets accepted their offers then there is a fair chance both Radders and Dowes would have had their contract offers removed.
Its a gamble holding on but neither the club nor the players in these positions are in full control because of all the external factors.'"
AFAIK, neither Hall or Calderwood were offered a contract, the players who were offered reduced terms were Radford and Dowes and it would appear in the former case he already managed to at least retain his former earnings due, as you say, to hull having missed out on projected targets. Dowes position presumably remains in limbo. ?
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| Quote ="Bertie"AFAIK, neither Hall or Calderwood were offered a contract, the players who were offered reduced terms were Radford and Dowes and it would appear in the former case he already managed to at least retain his former earnings due, as you say, to hull having missed out on projected targets. Dowes position presumably remains in limbo. ?'"
Will Sharp put pen to paper pretty much ruling out any sort of contract offer for Hall. Calderwood may still be offered something in November if he gets himself fully fit - this may change 1) If another club make him a firm offer or 2) Hull sign another outside back.
Dowes is completely in limbo at the moment and is holding out for more money knowing that if another prop agrees a contract with Hull then his current offer will more then likely disappear.
Going back to your original claim that the Hull players will see the Radders signing as a victory in boosting their earning power I think the above would suggest not.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"TBH I reckon Hull are more likely to up their offer for Dowes before offering Wheeldon a contract but you never know!'"
I don't doubt that for a minute. It wasn't Hull who I had in mind, but I know Wakey are supposed to be interested in Wheeldon. He's not pulling tress up, but everyone has a value, and if the price is right, Rovers should give him another 2 years to continue his development.
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| Quote ="The Goroka Gene-ius"I don't doubt that for a minute. It wasn't Hull who I had in mind, but I know Wakey are supposed to be interested in Wheeldon. He's not pulling tress up, but everyone has a value, and if the price is right, Rovers should give him another 2 years to continue his development.'"
His value to Rovers may suddenly increase if other forward targets do not come off!
I would like to think Wheeldon has a future in this city because he is a good prop with the best years ahead of him but things can all change pretty quickly.
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| Quote ="Bertie"the players who were offered reduced terms were Radford and Dowes and it would appear in the former case [uhe already managed to at least retain his former earnings[/u '"
Can you provide a link to your assertion that Lee Radford's level of salary on his new contract is the same as his old one? Given that he's getting a testimonial as well, that would be a huge pay increase in real terms. Thanks.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Can you provide a link to your assertion that Lee Radford's level of salary on his new contract is the same as his old one? Given that he's getting a testimonial as well, that would be a huge pay increase in real terms. Thanks.'"
You "accidentally" missed underlining the part which stated... it would appear so. This would indicate that the posters intention ( i.e mois ) was meant as a IMO which as far as i am aware doesn't require a link.
HTH
P.S. It would, in my defence, be that quite a lot of your own fans believe Radford has been given the deal "he" wants (and with 2 years) because one of your other targets has signed up elsewhere thus increasing his bargaining power.
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| Quote ="Bertie"You "accidentally" missed underlining the part which stated...it would appear so. This would indicate that the posters intention ( i.e mois ) was meant as a IMO which as far as i am aware doesn't require a link.
HTH
P.S. It would, in my defence, be that quite a lot of your own fans believe Radford has been given the deal "he" wants (and with 2 years) because one of your other targets has signed up elsewhere thus increasing his bargaining power.'"
Again, you are making assumptions that:
a) Radford has got absolutely everything he asked for and not budged an inch from his initial postion
b) That Radford values himself now at exactly the same salary he did 2 years ago.
Of course Radford will have better bargaining power now we've missed out on Fielden and LMS, even though it's been stated by the player, openly, that staying at FC is his first choice. But for your logic to hold, now you've missed out on a player Morgan was open about saying he wanted (Radford), that increases Mason's (who as reported in the national press wants £180,000 a year) bargaining power as you've already missed out on Lima and as you say there are precious few alternatives in the forwards available.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Mason's (who as reported in the national press wants £180,000 a year) bargaining power as you've already missed out on Lima and as you say there are precious few alternatives in the forwards available.
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Erm £120,000 and if the gent i've being speaking with today is correct thats the what we've got him for. Not once in any national press report have I seen Mason wanting 180k.
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Quote ="Easty"Erm £120,000 and if the gent i've being speaking with today is correct thats the what we've got him for. Not once in any national press report have I seen Mason wanting 180k.'"
Do keep up
www.dailystar.co.uk/rugby/view/1 ... cDermott-/
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Do keep up
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Wow I must have missed the story in the RL fountain of knowledge that is the Daily Star. Maybe his wage demands went the same way as only looking for offers from the top 4 clubs. Any club would be mad to pay ANY player 180k certainly a prop when the cap is only 1.7m.
If Willie Mason on a 3 year deal at £120000 is correct i'm more then happy.
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Wow I must have missed the story in the RL fountain of knowledge that is the Daily Star. Maybe his wage demands went the same way as only looking for offers from the top 4 clubs. Any club would be mad to pay ANY player 180k certainly a prop when the cap is only 1.7m.
If Willie Mason on a 3 year deal at £120000 is correct i'm more then happy.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Can you provide a link to your assertion that Lee Radford's level of salary on his new contract is the same as his old one? Given that he's getting a testimonial as well, that would be a huge pay increase in real terms. Thanks.'"
It's widely known that Hull FC met the demands that Hull KR was offering radford at the 11th hour. Whether thats more or less then last season feck knows. Whats assured it's more then they where originally prepared to pay.
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| Quote ="Easty"It's widely known that Hull FC met the demands that Hull KR was offering radford at the 11th hour. Whether thats more or less then last season feck knows. Whats assured it's more then they where originally prepared to pay.'"
Correct. Bertie is claiming it's what he's on now though. Which with a testimonial would be a massive increase.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyleague/6583370/Matt-Orford-joins-Bradford-from-Manly-in-money-spinning-deal.html
Well the uncapped Matt Orford commands £275,000 a year.
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Then like i said their mad. Especially with the season Orford and Bradford have had. I'd hope Rovers would have a little more financial prudence.
[size=60Yes i mentioned the word finance please don't take it as a green light to go on creating posts and posts on Rovers alledged finance. You've gotten boring on that subject.[/size
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| good deal id say on 120k a year (allegedly)...consideering some imports arent worth half that...
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Correct. Bertie is claiming it's what he's on now though. Which with a testimonial would be a massive increase.'"
Surely any wages he's on would be seperate from any testimonial?
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| Quote ="Easty"Surely any wages he's on would be seperate from any testimonial?'"
Yes, that's the point. Bertie says he's on the same salary for the next 2 years as he's on now. So when you add in the fact that he's also eligible for testimonial that's all incremental money so in real terms he's getting a lot more money. According to Bertie, anyway.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Yes, that's the point. Bertie says he's on the same salary for the next 2 years as he's on now. So when you add in the fact that he's also eligible for testimonial that's all incremental money so in real terms he's getting a lot more money. According to Bertie, anyway.
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I'm starting to get a little baffled. Anyways had my ringtons tea delivered with my favourite shortcake biscuits so the less confused the better as i'm now heading into indulgement(sp) mode.
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| Quote ="Easty"I'm starting to get a little baffled. Anyways had my ringtons tea delivered with my favourite shortcake biscuits so the less confused the better as [ui'm now heading into indulgement(sp) mode.[/u'"
Like Radford with his wheelbarrows of cash.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Like Radford with his wheelbarrows of cash.
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Not from Rovers atleast.
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| Quote ="Easty"Not from Rovers atleast.'"
£180,000 is several wheelbarrows worth, not enough for our poor donkey.
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