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If Rovers do take the action of sacking him, I hope they get the RFL to refuse any other club permission to sign him, if not what would be the point, the player will not be punished just the club. I would imagine Rovers will take advice from the RFL and if they say they cannot prevent him signing elswhere, why would we sack him.'"
Agree.
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| Quote ="rover49"I would imagine Rovers will take advice from the RFL and if they say they cannot prevent him signing elswhere, why would we sack him.'"
If Rovers are comfortable having an out and out thug in their squad then fine, leave them to it.
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| Quote ="rover49"
If Rovers do take the action of sacking him, I hope they get the RFL to refuse any other club permission to sign him, if not what would be the point, the player will not be punished just the club. I would imagine Rovers will take advice from the RFL and if they say they cannot prevent him signing elswhere, why would we sack him.'"
Again you are right, totally agree
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| Quote ="Banger"If Rovers are comfortable having an out and out thug in their squad then fine, leave them to it.'"
Oh get off your high horse. People in glass houses shouldn't be shooting automatic weapons, eh?
I'm happy to back whatever decision Hull KR make. If Ben stays, I'll support him as a Hull KR player, if he goes then he is of no interest to me.
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| Quote ="j_hunter_hkr"Oh get of your high horse. People in glass houses shouldn't be shooting automatic weapons, eh?
I'm happy to back whatever decision Hull KR make. If Ben stays, I'll support him as a Hull KR player, if he goes then he is of no interest to me.'"
Dont think Rovers or Hull need to even be mentioned here. Its not Rovers fault that he's done what he's done. The simple matter here is that he has. If he worked for me i wouldnt want him tarnishing my companies name and would dismiss him for gross misconduct. Rovers must make a statement of intent here, Rugby League doesnt need this.
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| Quote ="j_hunter_hkr"But there was no CCTV footage, so it doesn't count.
Some of the posts on here are absolutely pathetic and the people mentioning Leon Walker should be ashamed. The tragic death of a young player has NOTHING to do with what Ben Cockayne did and using it to fuel the fire is just sickening (berrigans bitch).'"
If you actually take the trouble to read the majority of posts about this from FC fans they are saying that Raynor was also lucky not to get sent down. The fact that there was no CCTV released publicly is irrelevant.
Raynor committed a serious racially motivated offence and was rightly punished. BUT the severity of the sentences reflects the severity of the offences. Raynor 6 months suspended for 18, Cockayne 51 weeks suspended for 2 years. In the eyes of the legal system (which may be an ass ) Cockayne's is the more serious. End of.
And Berrigan's bitch has a point, in that the media have had the unfortunate opportunity to show RL in a positive light (with the sport joining together after Leon Walker's death) but the timing of the Cockayne case (and it could have been anybody) has put the mockers on that and the media can go back to portraying the sport in a poor light.
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| Did the guy who got beaten up do anything at all before taking a kicking off Ben??
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| Quote ="Banger"icon_eek.gif You don't get out much then?'"
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| Quote ="cab man"It would seem Bens chance for an England cap is back on. If he keeps playing the way he is, and win us the cup as i expect he will play a major part. For me Bens enthusiasm drove us to were we are now. Now he has been let off lightly he should grasp the opportunity and realise the potential he has got.
Cmon Ben.'"
Dont talk rubbish you t1t
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Eh? Why should i get over not liking thugs like that to be walking the street still. It could have been anyone of us, would you be getting over it if was a relative of yours or your child for example? I know youre not defending it, but to say get over it is almost doing the same. Our legal system is pathetic.
Ive worked in town for a number of years and have seen incidents like this. Ive also seen a far less severe incident lead in death. Cockayne is a lucky boy, and a rovers player or not i would have been a little annoyed about this as you can tell.'"
look, we are only being fed what the media think will sell papers, there are two sides to every story. as for joe bloggs in the street being attacked, if you conduct yourself in a manner not to attract idiots like cockayne, the chances are you will not be involved in an altercation. there are too many people jumping on bandwagons at the moment!
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| Quote ="j_hunter_hkr"I'm happy to back whatever decision Hull KR make. If Ben stays, I'll support him as a Hull KR player'"
Just out of interest, would the same apply regardless of the crime comitted?
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Dont think Rovers or Hull need to even be mentioned here. Its not Rovers fault that he's done what he's done. The simple matter here is that he has. If he worked for me i wouldnt want him tarnishing my companies name and would dismiss him for gross misconduct. Rovers must make a statement of intent here, Rugby League doesnt need this.'"
What would that acheive, really? He's not the first and he's definitely not the last. He's received his punishment, let's just move on!
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| Quote ="Banger"If Rovers are comfortable having an out and out thug in their squad then fine, leave them to it.'"
Because the idea behind any sanction is to make a stance against the violent act he carried out, if we sack him and he signs for another SL club, who is punished, certainly not the player. I take your point about not wanting a thug in the squad, but lets face it there are numerous players still plying their trade who have had similar convictions. I doubt you are niave enough to think that if we sack him not one other club will come knocking after a few weeks.
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| Quote ="cab man"Did the guy who got beaten up do anything at all before taking a kicking off Ben??'"
the lad is well known for been an idiot and trouble maker.
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| Quote ="cab man"Did the guy who got beaten up do anything at all before taking a kicking off Ben??'"
And that matters because?
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| Quote ="red al"look, we are only being fed what the media think will sell papers, there are two sides to every story. as for joe bloggs in the street being attacked, if you conduct yourself in a manner not to attract idiots like cockayne, the chances are you will not be involved in an altercation. there are too many people jumping on bandwagons at the moment!'"
So the guy asked for the kicking?
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| Quote ="dunc"the lad is well known for been an idiot and trouble maker.'"
Best kick the crap out of him then
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| Quote ="j_hunter_hkr"What would that acheive, really? He's not the first and he's definitely not the last. He's received his punishment, let's just move on!'"
It would back up our sports reputation of being a family sport and maybe deter any players in the future of this kind of behaviour. He is a role model to lots of kids etc Our sport doesnt need this.
He may have received his punishment from the courts but thats rubbish, he doesnt deserve to have adoring Rovers fans watching him and cheering his name etc. He deserves to be in prison sharing his cell with someone who nicknames him precious!!
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"So the guy asked for the kicking?
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do you no any different?
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| Quote ="Chris28"Best kick the crap out of him then
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Unbelievable isnt it. He obviously deserved it!!
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| Being a cab driver in hull now for a number of years i have come across certain individuals who basically deserve a good kicking. I am not saying this chap did for all i know he may be a pillar of the community. But maybe the bigger picture needs looking at.
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| Quote ="Banger"Just out of interest, would the same apply regardless of the crime comitted?'"
What player's do in their personal lives has nothing to do with me supporting Hull KR. If the crime was judged to be punishable by custody then he wouldn't be playing for Hull KR, therefore the severity of the crime is a none issue.
Whether Ben stays or goes, life goes on and I still support Hull KR. I just don't think a person should be damned forever because they made a mistake in their lifetime, especially after they've accepted their punishment.
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| Quote ="red al"do you no any different?'"
I know that no one ever deserves a kicking, violence is the answer to nothing!!! Cant believe you are implying he may have deserved a shoeing from an ex marine etc!! Jeez!
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Unbelievable isnt it. He obviously deserved it!!
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| Quote ="cab man"Being a cab driver in hull now for a number of years i have come across certain individuals who basically deserve a good kicking. I am not saying this chap did for all i know he may be a pillar of the community. But maybe the bigger picture needs looking at.'"
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