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| Quote ="☺East-Sard☺"
I just think it could even start in motion a dangerous precedence that some clubs could even abuse. Ie overstate injuries to sway the judiciary hearings … Of course no one is suggesting that here, but you get the point. If the evidence (tv footage etc) doesn't show enough either way, I don't like how it then falls to the outcome of the incident to dictate/increase the punishment. In as much, guilt has already been decided in the headlines.'"
Think that precedent was set last year with the tackle Sneyd made on McGuire, think that was deemed a season ender and possible break only for him to be classed as fit for selection at the game 5 days later.
I'm not expecting the JB ruling to set any precedent at all going forward, as someone said earlier in this thread JB suffered from not playing for a 'big boy' club and the media playing of Powell. I'll guarantee that over the next 2 days we'll see worse 3rd man tackles (although hopefully not causing the injury) that will go unpunished
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Interesting. I have mostly seen him play for Cas, during which time he hasn't stood out as particularly dirty (as evidenced by the fact he hasn't been charged for anything during his time at Cas). Nor did I really notice him playing against us for Salford.
My point about his absence wasn't really to do with his children, but to point out that despite your claims Powell sends him out to injure players every week, this can't be true as he hasn't actually played that many games for us.
Perhaps you need to sit on the disciplinary panel if you are spotting foul play that is completely missed by everyone else?'"
There is always one. I remember one of them accusing Senior of deliberately bringing his knee down on the back of Chev Walkers calf when he broke his leg at Headingley. You can't reason with myopia of this nature!
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| Quote ="barham red"Think that precedent was set last year with the tackle Sneyd made on McGuire, think that was deemed a season ender and possible break only for him to be classed as fit for selection at the game 5 days later.
I'm not expecting the JB ruling to set any precedent at all going forward, as someone said earlier in this thread JB suffered from not playing for a 'big boy' club and the media playing of Powell. I'll guarantee that over the next 2 days we'll see worse 3rd man tackles (although hopefully not causing the injury) that will go unpunished'"
Unfortunately I think you are correct. They was a similar incident with Mickey Paea ironically against Cas a couple of years ago. At the hearing Radford presented evidence to the committee showing that there were 2/3 tackles that were the same as Paea's that round but the ban was not overturned. Complete lack of consistency.
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Well said Neil, no doubt he'll get fined for stating the truth though
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Well said Neil, no doubt he'll get fined for stating the truth though
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| Hudge might as well set up a direct debit to Red Hall.
I'd be prepared to chip in for his fine, it was a pretty funny statement.
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| Well said Neil! Especially about Mr Powell. I shall boycott the return match.
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| Quote ="barham red"eusa_clap.gif
Well said Neil, no doubt he'll get fined for stating the truth though'"
It was a poor decision and I can understand his frustration, but he should really keep it to himself as he's not doing anyone any favours. He should really have learned his lesson from previous cases.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"It was a poor decision and I can understand his frustration, but he should really keep it to himself as he's not doing anyone any favours. He should really have learned his lesson from previous cases.'"
I don't think sitting by without a word said is going to change anything is it? What Neil says may also not change anything, however, it does make it more public and makes the RFL a little uncomfortable.
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"I don't think sitting by without a word said is going to change anything is it? What Neil says may also not change anything, however, it does make it more public and:2mc5uq62[u:2mc5uq62 makes the RFL a little uncomfortable[/u:2mc5uq62
I'd like to think you're right about but experience shows us that they are completely immune to criticism and will carry on with their long record of inconsistency in applying punishments for identical instances. For what its worth I think JB has been very harshly treated and a warning about his tackling technique would have been sufficient.
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| IF the lad had played for the glory boys he would have got 1 match maybe, the same sort of tackle you will see tonight and esp tomorrow night go unpunished,
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| Mr powell ought to be asked what he thought about jewitt coming in as 3rd man on allgood,its been highlighted on twitter by an fc fan,exactly the same tackle,one gets a 4 match ban the other nothing.I would like to say the RFL stinks but I have no wish to flatter them.
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| I watched the replay of the tackle (as well as the highlights of the game) and couldn't see anything that warrants a ban never mind four games. As your chairman stated, the RFL have set themselves a very high bar for the season to come. Daryl Powell has come out with inflammatory statements in past when his side is involved and his comments appear to be an attempt to influence the panel at Red Hall to view incidents from a slanted perspective. It will interesting to see what action is taken if there are similar circumstances in future rounds.
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| Quote ="Sandro II Terrorista"Hudge might as well set up a direct debit to Red Hall.
I'd be prepared to chip in for his fine, it was a pretty funny statement.'"
Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"It was a poor decision and I can understand his frustration, but he should really keep it to himself as he's not doing anyone any favours. He should really have learned his lesson from previous cases.'"
Tbf, unless his claims about them making the decision on the appeal before receiving submissions and introduction of inadmissible evidence are untrue, I think they're snookered.
The first would be an embarrassing and damning breach of process, the second could be more technical but I wouldn't put much past them - I'm pretty certain I want to see the details more than they'll want to disclose them. If they make an issue of it, then it can't be hidden. I suspect he wrote it in part to bait them - knowing that that they'd have to be stupid and deeply lacking in self-awareness to bite back... fingers crossed!
Based on recent experience there's every chance they'll find a hidden coded message in the statement, which on 'careful consideration' will be interpreted as being offensive to people with hairy buttocks - who frankly have suffered enough. Mine is just downy fluff, btw.
You can't be charged with bringing the game into disrepute if you're pointing out mistakes or wrong-doing, if they're true and demonstratable. Well you can, but it makes those charging you look very bad indeed. If Hudge's claims about the behaviour of the panel are untrue he's royally knacked, though.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"It was a poor decision and I can understand his frustration, but he should really keep it to himself as he's not doing anyone any favours. He should really have learned his lesson from previous cases.'"
He should be knocking on Big Nige's door and telling him. I don't disagree with Hudge (wash my mouth out) but agree it would better done away from the public eye. perhaps with the support of other chairmen/owners.
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| First things first, i disagree with the RFL's decision and you as a club have been hard done by. It's clear Boudezba slipped. But Hudgells comments about Powell are ridiculous. Powell says;
“It’s really disappointing the type of tackles that can do that to people are still in the game. There’s a job needs to be done in terms of dealing with that, but that is no consolation to Shenny or to us.”
It's not a comment on Rovers, it's not a comment about the player, it's a comment on the state of the game today, so to say its "appalling" and Powell intended to 'inflame and prejudice this matter' and went "out of his way to publicly influence the suspension of a player at a rival club" is ludicrous.
I know Hudgell has previous but thats a Shaun Wane level meltdown.
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| Quote ="tigerdan"First things first, i disagree with the RFL's decision and you as a club have been hard done by. It's clear Boudezba slipped. But Hudgells comments about Powell are ridiculous. Powell says;
“It’s really disappointing the type of tackles that can do that to people are still in the game. There’s a job needs to be done in terms of dealing with that, but that is no consolation to Shenny or to us.”
It's not a comment on Rovers, it's not a comment about the player, it's a comment on the state of the game today, so to say its "appalling" and Powell intended to 'inflame and prejudice this matter' and went "out of his way to publicly influence the suspension of a player at a rival club" is ludicrous.
I know Hudgell has previous but thats a Shaun Wane level meltdown.'"
To be fair in his post match interview on sky powell said there was no place in the game for tackles like that. He was fuming and stating he'd lost a player and it needed stamping out. He was very clearly blaming boudebza for intentionally coming in as 3rd man. I normally like powell but he was bang out of order with his comments.
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| Quote ="tigerdan"First things first, i disagree with the RFL's decision and you as a club have been hard done by. It's clear Boudezba slipped. But Hudgells comments about Powell are ridiculous. Powell says;
“It’s really disappointing the type of tackles that can do that to people are still in the game. There’s a job needs to be done in terms of dealing with that, but that is no consolation to Shenny or to us.”
It's not a comment on Rovers, it's not a comment about the player, it's a comment on the state of the game today, so to say its "appalling" and Powell intended to 'inflame and prejudice this matter' and went "out of his way to publicly influence the suspension of a player at a rival club" is ludicrous.
I know Hudgell has previous but thats a Shaun Wane level meltdown.'" i
I don't think that was what he said after the game though. That's probably what he said the following day after watching the video and Calming down.
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| Quote ="barham red"To be fair in his post match interview on sky powell said there was no place in the game for tackles like that. He was fuming and stating he'd lost a player and it needed stamping out. He was very clearly blaming boudebza for intentionally coming in as 3rd man. I normally like powell but he was bang out of order with his comments.'"
So you think the 3rd man in going low DOESN'T need stamping out of the game? Or do you actually agree with Powell there?
Do you also believe Boudebza needed to perform the leg whip which caused the injury despite him joining the tackle was enough to complete the job before applying the undue pressure?
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I don't think that was what he said after the game though. That's probably what he said the following day after watching the video and Calming down.'"
“That was a bad tackle – that’s got to be out of the game”
Is what Powell said about the tackle, everything after that was that Shenton needs sending for scans.
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| Campo having a pop now, the RFL are either going to have to hand a sh^t load of fines out, or bury their heads in the sand.
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| Quote ="Hessle rover"Well said Neil! Especially about Mr Powell. I shall boycott the return match.'"
I'm also going to boycott Castleford away and call on ALL of the Rovers fans to do the same. We can call the boycott off only once Powell has apologized to little John. I suggest the boycott should be continued into next season without an apology.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"So you think the 3rd man in going low DOESN'T need stamping out of the game? Or do you actually agree with Powell there?
Do you also believe Boudebza needed to perform the leg whip which caused the injury despite him joining the tackle was enough to complete the job before applying the undue pressure?
“That was a bad tackle – that’s got to be out of the game”
Is what Powell said about the tackle, everything after that was that Shenton needs sending for scans.'"
Hello Cyclops is back.
Boudebza didn't apply any undue pressure neither was initial contact below the knee.
Powell had a hissy fit after the game
You only have one eye.
These are the facts please deal with them in an emotionally mature manner
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| Quote ="Grimsby Red"I'm also going to boycott Castleford away and call on ALL of the Rovers fans to do the same. We can call the boycott off only once Powell has apologized to little John. I suggest the boycott should be continued into next season without an apology.'"
What's the point? I thought the rfl was the enemy here, why financially punish another club? Besides, I follow Rovers all over so I'd also be cutting my nose off by not attending one of the most accessible away fixtures in the calendar.
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| I'm up for getting some buckets at the Wakefield game to start a collection for Hudgel's fine.
If we get enough to cover it we can get Powell a dummy with the left overs.
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