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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"If he's that good and worth putting up with his misdemeanours then why won;t wigan have him back? I fully agree with you though, hull kr should sign him'"
Try reading the second sentence. I presume you are able?
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| Has been. Shouldn't have been allowed to play again following a positive drugs test.
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| Quote ="dum-dum"Has been. Shouldn't have been allowed to play again following a positive drugs test.'"
Where do you stand on recreational drugs? Because that's what it was - not performance enhancing. He copped a two year ban for recreational drug use which was harsh. Terry Newton got two years for using HGH. It hardly equates does it?
As for him being a has been, did you watch Salford much last season? Their fans seemed happy enough with his form until his latest (rather comical) misdemeanour. Even if he is a 'has been' he could improve most teams in Super League.
Anyway it looks like he's off to Wire - so he won't be bringing down the tone in East Hull!
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| Doing recreational drugs makes him an idiot, however copping lengthy bans for deliberate contact with match officials for 2 years in a row makes him unemployable if I were recruiting for Rovers. The bloke is an utter bumclart. I wouldn't pi$$ on him if he was on fire.
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| Article in Manchester news paper swapping Hock for Costigen
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| Quote ="Aboveusonlypie"When he came back from his drugs ban he worked incredibly hard at Wigan and had a great season under Wane in 2012. Then something happened internally (there are various rumours but the truth hasn't really come out) and Wigan lost patience with him and shipped him to Widnes.
He played well in a very poor team. Going to Salford was clearly a mistake. But he's also done well this season. Not just on his day, but over the course of the season he's easily the best second rower in Super League. He runs incredibly hard, is difficult to put down, has a step and offloads more than anyone in the league.
Against that he misses 3 to 6 games a season through suspension. He gives penalties away more than most (or so it seems - I'd be glad to be proved wrong on this though).
So you have to decide - Is he worth it?
If I was Hull KR I'd snap him up. Surely as fans you want to see great players. And he is a great player.'"
We have been burned repeatedly and recently. I'm not going to make a moral issue out of his drug ban, but he showed very bad judgement. He messed Wigan around, he messed Parramatta around and now, after getting chucked out of the England WC squad, he's messed Salford around. Extreme cases apart, everybody deserves a second chance, but there's a limit and I'm not keen to see Rovers added to the list of clubs Hocked about. The ref shoving, is the clincher. Without that, I'd maybe think a loan deal, with no fee and a return option, mightn't be so bad. But as it is, there's no point fretting over discipline if you're going to sign somebody notorious for lacking it.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"We have been burned repeatedly and recently. I'm not going to make a moral issue out of his drug ban, but he showed very bad judgement. He messed Wigan around, he messed Parramatta around and now, after getting chucked out of the England WC squad, he's messed Salford around. Extreme cases apart, everybody deserves a second chance, but there's a limit and I'm not keen to see Rovers added to the list of clubs Hocked about. The ref shoving, is the clincher. Without that, I'd maybe think a loan deal, with no fee and a return option, mightn't be so bad. But as it is, there's no point fretting over discipline if you're going to sign somebody notorious for lacking it.'"
Your post seems fair enough to me. I'm no apologist for Hock. I just think people over react with him. This is rugby league not university challenge after all. It's a game played by people who enjoy hitting people and who enjoy getting hit!
Hock is a bloody good player. If he comes I think you would love him warts and all.
My final words on the subject. I've outstayed my welcome.
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| Quote ="Aboveusonlypie"Your post seems fair enough to me. I'm no apologist for Hock. I just think people over react with him. This is rugby league not university challenge after all. It's a game played by people who enjoy hitting people and who enjoy getting hit!
Hock is a bloody good player. If he comes I think you would love him warts and all.
My final words on the subject. I've outstayed my welcome.'"
You're more than welcome.
Hock has talent, and he's capable of doing stuff that'd rouse a crowd that have little enough to cheer of late. He just stuffs up way too often - unfortunately.
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| Wasn't ever happening .......
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| Ellipsis.
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| Quote ="PAC"Wasn't ever happening .......'"
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| I do.
My Unicorn snagged it's horn in the chicken wire fence I erected at the bottom of Terrorist Towers.
This led to the Evil Ginger departing.
She will not be returning. (This is the bit that I know isn't happening, as per the requisite of the story).
Luckily, this led to a Brahmin bestowing his/her (I always get confused at this point) his/her glorious bounty of a new Ms. Terrorist. Yet to be introduced.
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| After his ref pushing incidents, can you imagine the first dodgy Hick decision against him that costs us the game.
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"I do.
My Unicorn snagged it's horn in the chicken wire fence I erected at the bottom of Terrorist Towers.
This led to the Evil Ginger departing.
She will not be returning. (This is the bit that I know isn't happening, as per the requisite of the story).
Luckily, this led to a Brahmin bestowing his/her (I always get confused at this point) his/her glorious bounty of a new Ms. Terrorist. Yet to be introduced.'"
Be sure to follow the advice of the Lord Chester Of Kingston and 'do your homework' on any new additions.
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| Hock showing his class on Twitter tonight saying something along the lines of 'cheer up benny he deserved it'. He doesn't learn I don't care how good a player he is, I don't want him anywhere near this club.
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| I think there are certain players who if they didn`t play rugby would be up in front of the beak for one reason or another. (Allegedly.)
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| "Keep ya head up benny he deserved it" was the tweet,if he comes to rovers thats 4 season tickets less this season. The guy is just a waste of space and talent.
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| Quote ="deslawson""Keep ya head up benny he deserved it" was the tweet,if he comes to rovers thats 4 season tickets less this season. The guy is just a waste of space and talent.'"
Hock is unbelievable, I cannot believe how stupid he is
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| I like him, makes me feel all warm and fuzzy that without trying, someone is more stupid than me.
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| Are will still talking about Da Vinci?
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| We had moved onto Michelangelo, this is going to be a long off season.
I'd hoped that we would have managed to move onto Caravaggio by now.
I'm just glad I'm not doing this on the thicko, wrong side of The Chocolate River's Tributary board.
You might get Grand Final wins on other boards but you do not get art history to see you through the Winter.
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| WHY on earth are we still harping on about this idiot the guy is no body should give him the time of day what a waste of talent
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| That's no way to talk about Roberto Baggio, he deserves better.
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| He's staying at Salford now.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"He's staying at Salford now.'"
Good Salford can keep him we do not want him
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