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| I disagree. Why would Senior moan about it?
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| Another fine display from our current No.1. Brilliant pass for Hodgy's 2nd.
I would plead with the board to reconsider and get round the negotiating table. Tomkins aside, there is no better full back in SL at this moment ( and I include Brett Hodgson in that).
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| Quote ="SirStan"Another fine display from our current No.1. Brilliant pass for Hodgy's 2nd.
I would plead with the board to reconsider and get round the negotiating table. Tomkins aside, there is no better full back in SL at this moment ( and I include Brett Hodgson in that).'"
Yep I agree stan Shannon is now like a breath of fresh air why dont we get a chant going at catalans please sign Shannon please sign Shannon
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| Quote ="SirStan"Another fine display from our current No.1. Brilliant pass for Hodgy's 2nd.
I would plead with the board to reconsider and get round the negotiating table. Tomkins aside, there is no better full back in SL at this moment ( and I include Brett Hodgson in that).'" The problem with that is we have no idea what he is after and we do actually have a salary cap to stick too.
I can just see the conversation now 'I want £250,000 that ok?' 'Sure we'll give you just over 1/7 of our total salary cap Shannon no problem'.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"The problem with that is we have no idea what he is after and we do actually have a salary cap to stick too.
I can just see the conversation now 'I want £250,000 that ok?' 'Sure we'll give you just over 1/7 of our total salary cap Shannon no problem'.'"
What how much that's slightly OTT really isn't it
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| Quote ="gingerspice"What how much that's slightly OTT really isn't it
'" Who knows.
That is the point though as none of us know what Shannon wants so saying 'get around the table and just give him it' is rather silly if he wants silly money.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Who knows.
That is the point though as none of us know what Shannon wants so saying 'get around the table and just give him it' is rather silly if he wants silly money.'"
I thought the rumour was he was offered 60 grand by us but offered 85 by widnes I totally understand what ur saying but I for one hope they cud re negotiate unless he has already signed on the dotted line for sum one else what prob is a bit of a bug bear is wud he have got this opportunity if it hadn't of been for sandercock who knows, he will be a big big loss to us.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Who knows.
That is the point though as none of us know what Shannon wants so saying 'get around the table and just give him it' is rather silly if he wants silly money.'"
You've not quite grasped the concept of negotiation have you?
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| Quote ="SirStan"You've not quite grasped the concept of negotiation have you?'" No I have but if he wants silly money and has been offered it elsewhere we either offer him the same silly money or he walks.
Like I said no one knows what he wants or what he has been offered elsewhere.
So saying just renegotiate and get him signed up may cost us a hell of a lot more than we can budget for.
I hope you are right and that we are not that far away and a deal could be struck but on the other hand he could be asking for far more of our cap than we can realistically give to one player.
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| Quote ="SirStan"Another fine display from our current No.1. Brilliant pass for Hodgy's 2nd.
I would plead with the board to reconsider and get round the negotiating table. Tomkins aside, there is no better full back in SL at this moment ( and I include Brett Hodgson in that).'"
I said the same to the guys last night, Shannon gets better with every game and it would be a real shame if both parties didn't come together to try and sort out a deal that's acceptable to both.
I realy do believe that Sandercock has the makings of a good side at his disposal that will only get better if the majority of the current crop of players are kept together plus one or two quality additions.
Also, as iv'e previously commented, Good fullbacks are in very short supply at the moment.
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| Quote ="Seventies red"I said the same to the guys last night, Shannon gets better with every game and it would be a real shame if both parties didn't come together to try and sort out a deal that's acceptable to both.
I realy do believe that Sandercock has the makings of a good side at his disposal that will only get better [uif the majority of the current crop of players are kept together plus one or two quality additions.[/u
Also, as iv'e previously commented, Good fullbacks are in very short supply at the moment.'"
11 out, 8 in. Do keep up.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"11 out, 8 in. Do keep up.'"
Says who,? unlike you i prefer not to take too much notice of the millions of rumours flying about but wait and see what materializes nearer the day.
Just for your information i hear things every week from people and friends, some of who have quite close connections to the club, however it doesn't mean i take it all as definitive.
Do keep out.
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| Quote ="Seventies red"Says who,? unlike you i prefer not to take too much notice of the millions of rumours flying about but wait and see what materializes nearer the day.
Just for your information i hear things every week from people and friends, some of who have quite close connections to the club, however it doesn't mean i take it all as definitive.
Do keep out.
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Easty, and (sort of) GML (said Watts out was tip of the iceberg, major clear out looming). They are both pretty reliable, thanks.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Easty, and (sort of) GML (said Watts out was tip of the iceberg, major clear out looming). They are both pretty reliable, thanks.'"
Easty reliable?
Whatever.
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| Quote ="SirStan"Easty reliable?
Whatever.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Easty, and (sort of) GML (said Watts out was tip of the iceberg, major clear out looming). They are both pretty reliable, thanks.'" So GML didn't actually say it and as usual you are making it up.
Gotcha.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Easty, and (sort of) GML (said Watts out was tip of the iceberg, major clear out looming). They are both pretty reliable, thanks.'"
From what iv'e heard,the Watts situation has been on the cards for quite a few weeks, with regards to the mass clear out or 11 out and 8 in as you have stated, all i can say is what i hear from sources that are as reliable as any, that is, although there will be changes they wont be quite as dramatic as you seem to think.
However,like iv'e said in my previous post, i prefer to deal in facts ,not rumours so i will wait and see what comes about nearer the day, there is also some wheeling and dealing still to be done during the next few weeks which will of course determing the outcome of some of the above, Thanks.
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| Quote ="Seventies red"From what iv'e heard,the Watts situation has been on the cards for quite a few weeks, with regards to the mass clear out or 11 out and 8 in as you have stated, all i can say is what i hear from sources that are as reliable as any, that is, although there will be changes they wont be quite as dramatic as you seem to think.
However,like iv'e said in my previous post, i prefer to deal in facts ,not rumours so i will wait and see what comes about nearer the day, there is also some wheeling and dealing still to be done during the next few weeks which will of course determing the outcome of some of the above, Thanks.'"
You do realise if this isn't how things pan out you will be getting quoted for months to come, as sure as eggs are eggs Katy Kenco will have your post in her database now.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"So GML didn't actually say it and as usual you are making it up.
Gotcha.'"
Not making anything up. Easty said 11 out, 8 in. GML confirmed there would be major changes here.
Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Lots of changes ahead in the make up of the 2013 squad.
Tip of the iceberg this.'"
Whilst it could be disappointing to be dismantling the squad when you're playing so well, as long as you're trading up with the likes of Lopini Paea it's progress.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Whilst it could be disappointing to be dismantling the squad when you're playing so well, as long as you're trading up with the likes of Lopini Paea it's progress.'"
We've had similar good runs of form probably every year after our first season in SL, in itself it doesn't mean this squad is capable of progressing to the next level.
If we're still playing like this at the end of the season and the team is dismantled it would be disappointing, but most likely we will not be.
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| Quote ="SirStan"Another fine display from our current No.1. Brilliant pass for Hodgy's 2nd.
I would plead with the board to reconsider and get round the negotiating table. Tomkins aside, there is no better full back in SL at this moment ( and I include Brett Hodgson in that).'"
I couldnt agree more
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| According to hull daily mails slammer sandercock has asked the board to reconsider shannons pay deal I hope they do
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Not making anything up. Easty said 11 out, 8 in. GML confirmed there would be major changes here.
Whilst it could be disappointing to be dismantling the squad when you're playing so well, as long as you're trading up with the likes of Lopini Paea it's progress.'"
Applying similar logic, I look forward to Hull confirming the signing of:
Rangi Chase,
Brett Kearney
Liam Watts
Scott Taylor
Benji Marshall
Daniel Holdswoth
Craig Kopzack
Oliver Elima
Jodie Broughton
Along with at least 1 NRL star prop. All this is nailed on, along with a top 4 finish. Happy days going into 2013 for the Black & Whites.
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| Quote ="SirStan"Applying similar logic, I look forward to Hull confirming the signing of:
Rangi Chase,
Brett Kearney
Liam Watts
Scott Taylor
Benji Marshall
Daniel Holdswoth
Craig Kopzack
Oliver Elima
Jodie Broughton
Along with at least 1 NRL star prop. All this is nailed on, along with a top 4 finish. Happy days going into 2013 for the Black & Whites.'"
Lovegrove just added to the list.
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