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| Quote ="Dave K."He has given everything on the pitch, he is out of contract, if the rest of your players but the same about of effort then you wouldn't be relegated.
Deserved to choose who he plays for and just because Rovers did what any club would have done, doesn't he should stay with them.'"
How many times have you actually seem him play for us to make another sweeping statement
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"We could have suspended him (on full pay) until it was resolved, but to release him we'd have had to pay out the rest of his contract.
Once the charges were dismissed, he was entitled to go about his business like anybody else. If the club helped him out, he owes them thanks.
I'm not massively impressed with him, but based on my knowledge of the situation, I think it's best if everybody just moves on.
What I am impressed with is Lunt-Blair-Minns-Scruton. That is a really good start in building a squad to do what we want to do.'"
Good, Rovers need to forget about the past and move on, outbursts from Hudge like this and ones aimed at fans won't help you move forward
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"How many times have you actually seem him play for us to make another sweeping statement'"
A few, I've been impressed with him on TV and the derby from games, although I'd hope not as many as you.
Do you not agree he is one of your better forwards? If not what's the big fuss with him leaving?
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| Quote ="Dave K."Sticking by him, they didn't have a choice, had they sacked him, they would have had to pay him a whole load of compensation.'"
At the same time Rovers stuck by Walker Sunderland were being panned by the press and safeguarding services for sticking by Adam Johnson. Sunderland were being threatened with legal action by the victim.
So yes Rovers did stick there neck out for Walker. They had no idea where it would go legally or if more charges would be brought as often are in these cases. He's a classless pr#ck and you're a wum.
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| Quote ="Dave K."
You said they didn't have a choice I said they did what's that got to do with me not knowing anything about employment law as mild rover pointed out they did have a choice
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"At the same time Rovers stuck by Walker Sunderland were being panned by the press and safeguarding services for sticking by Adam Johnson. Sunderland were being threatened with legal action by the victim.
So yes Rovers did stick there neck out for Walker. They had no idea where it would go legally or if more charges would be brought as often are in these cases. He's a classless pr#ck and you're a wum.'"
If you there think I'm a WUM you don't know me very well, just because I don't agree with (which is fine) it doesn't make me a WUM.
Rovers played Walker as they needed him to play, was it best for him to play with fans of other clubs calling him all kind of names?
Your anger should be aimed at others at the club.
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| Quote ="Dave K."A few, I've been impressed with him on TV and the derby from games, although I'd hope not as many as you.
Do you not agree he is one of your better forwards? If not what's the big fuss with him leaving?'"
I'm not going to lie yes he was one of the better forwards but he's replaceable wheras Blair and Lunt would have been a lot harder to replace them two along with Greenwood were the three I'd hoped we could keep
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"
That's fair enough I thought you meant sacking him, so why didn't they suspend him, whose best interests was for him to play?g
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"I'm not going to lie yes he was one of the better forwards but he's replaceable wheras Blair and Lunt would have been a lot harder to replace them two along with Greenwood were the three I'd hoped we could keep'"
Again fair enough, he's a decent prop who wants to play SL, I can't blame him for that.
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| Dave K asked 'I wonder why?'
Well, players facing criminal charges have carried on playing for us and other clubs a number of times. Sometimes even after convictions, though there's usually then a punishment suspension.
The question then is more 'why would they suspend him?', and that comes down to the nature of the allegations, and the potential for reputational damage - like Sunderland suffered as a result of not suspending Adam Johnson. Presumably Rovers made a judgement that it was unlikely that a court would find Walker guilty, as proved to be the case.
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| Quote ="Dave K."
Well we were struggling for props at the time so the cynics will say we had to play him but then again we really needed Kelly but didn't play him
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| Quote ="Dave K."Good, Rovers need to forget about the past and move on, outbursts from Hudge like this and ones aimed at fans won't help you move forward'"
Hudgell occasionally says things that I think are a bit rash. But we're all different, and it is generally best to be yourself. The caricature of a bloke on one long petulant strop is mostly a creation of Hull fans who dislike him for other reasons, IMO. Obtuse readings, embellishments and repetition have turned, what to my mind have been 3 or 4 unwise statements in 10+ years into a mythical litany of bitterness in some people's heads.
Mythical Litany of Bitterness. Good name for a heavy metal album if nowt else.
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"At the same time Rovers stuck by Walker Sunderland were being panned by the press and safeguarding services for sticking by Adam Johnson. Sunderland were being threatened with legal action by the victim.
So yes Rovers did stick there neck out for Walker. They had no idea where it would go legally or if more charges would be brought as often are in these cases. He's a classless pr#ck and you're a wum.'"
Johnson had been found guilty, Walker was not.
It's a tricky one, because society's attitude to some crimes are different to others, but the principle of innocent until proven guilty and the rules protecting employees still apply.
Basically, based on a purely benefit-risk basis, and an awareness of the reaction to a guilty verdict, if Rovers thought there was a good chance that the charges would stick, not suspending him would have been misplaced loyalty, and frankly a bit stupid. If they were confident that the charges would not stick, then they weren't sticking their neck out too much. There's the vagueries of the legal system, of course, but they're not of Adam Walker's making.
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| Walker's fecked off, he's always had rubbish hair and is as ugly as sin.
I'll say it to his ugly fizzog.
Glad you've gone you massive gormclops, none of us will miss you, you're not as good as you think you are and you can't tie your own shoe laces. And you have bad breath.
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"He's a classless pr#ck and you're a wum.'"
Seems to have an opinion about everything...did you mean wum-an?
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| Quote ="Sit down, Waldo"Seems to have an opinion about everything...did you mean wum-an?'"
I know, fancy having an opinion on a rugby forum, you would think this was kind of thing was meant for opinion and discussion.
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| Quote ="Sandro II Terrorista"Walker's fecked off, he's always had rubbish hair and is as ugly as sin.
I'll say it to his ugly fizzog.
Glad you've gone you massive gormclops, none of us will miss you, you're not as good as you think you are and you can't tie your own shoe laces. And you have bad breath.'"
That's the spirit. This is the reasoned summation of the situation I and the other wittering forum botherers have failed to provide.
He is uglier than the b@stard off spring of a Tim Street and Ray French coupling (which would look like that thing off the goonies, which Walker does but with died dark hair).
The Walker brothers....twice as ugly.
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| [list= [/list Quote ="Mild Rover"Johnson had been found guilty, Walker was not.
It's a tricky one, because society's attitude to some crimes are different to others, but the principle of innocent until proven guilty and the rules protecting employees still apply.
Basically, based on a purely benefit-risk basis, and an awareness of the reaction to a guilty verdict, if Rovers thought there was a good chance that the charges would stick, not suspending him would have been misplaced loyalty, and frankly a bit stupid. If they were confident that the charges would not stick, then they weren't sticking their neck out too much. There's the vagueries of the legal system, of course, but they're not of Adam Walker's making.'"
Walker was found not guilty later. Rovers were supporting him and could see the risk of doing so directly as the Sunderland situation occurred whilst Walker awaited court.
Walkers defence case was made easier by the victims family running to the national Mail when he was charged. However Rovers supported him.
I'm glad he's gone. He did owe Rovers though and should have stayed.
As a player he's been our best forward at times but that's like saying Jeanette Kranky is the biggest in the play ground.
He's massively under achieved.
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"That's the spirit. This is the reasoned summation of the situation I and the other wittering forum botherers have failed to provide.
He is uglier than the b@stard off spring of a Tim Street and Ray French coupling (which would look like that thing off the goonies, which Walker does but with died dark hair).
The Walker brothers....twice as ugly.'"
The thing off the goonie's is Danny Brough. I'd post a side by side but I'm awful at techy stuff
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| Quote ="barham red"The thing off the goonie's is Danny Brough. I'd post a side by side but I'm awful at techy stuff'"
Brough was the mother gangster.
Walker was her off spring chained in the cellar.
I too am unable to provide pictorial evidence due technical incompetence.
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| When we were hacked off in the East Stand and booed after the Hudds loss, Tilse didn't bother coming over after the match and Walker turned round half way across the pitch and headed for the dugout when he heard it.
At that exact moment I got the measure of both men.
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| Quote ="Gallanteer"When we were hacked off in the East Stand and booed after the Hudds loss, Tilse didn't bother coming over after the match and Walker turned round half way across the pitch and headed for the dugout when he heard it.
At that exact moment I got the measure of both men.'"
They probably got the measure of those fans too.
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| Cockayne Clarkson and Lawler signed not world bearers but all three solid especially in championship
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| Quote ="easthull4"Cockayne Clarkson and Lawler signed not world bearers but all three solid especially in championship'"
Well they can't all be top class, but at least they're young or in Charlie's case, a true Rovers man, so will serve us well in the Championship. At least it's now 7 vs 13.
We still need a couple of big forwards, wingers and a couple of half backs might be handy.
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