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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"i cant believe such a simple point confused you
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btw, i would ignore most of the publicly available stats, especially the ones on try assists which seems to have no criteria whatsoever'"
So he scores more trys and creates more trys than the three scrum halfs who are apparently better than him
Not to mention the 4 40/20s he's kicked as well as the fact the media will present him with the Albert Goldthorpe medal should he avoid a card in tomorrows game.
He'll be the 7 in the dream team and like Burrow will appear in this seasons grand final
Burrow is a very good player, his game is very different to that of Dobson in fact he's not so much an organiser more of an off the cuff genius but this season Dobson is in the much better form of the two
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"So he scores more trys and creates more trys than the three scrum halfs who are apparently better than him'"
and these are the only criteria by which idiots judge a scrum half,
also would this be the 'creating more try' statistic that somehow has Ali Lauitiiti creating one try all season?
Quote Not to mention the 4 40/20s he's kicked as well as the fact the media will present him with the Albert Goldthorpe medal should he avoid a card in tomorrows game.'" which surely shows the ridiculous the criteria for the albert goldthorpe medal is,
considering in both of its years a scrum half for a 'lesser' (note the inverted commas) team has won it, maybe the award in itself is weighted in favour of that type of player?
Quote He'll be the 7 in the dream team and like Burrow will appear in this seasons grand final'" would this be the SL dream team which rated George Carmont as a better centre than Senior? and Ade Gardner as one of the best two wingers in SL
Quote Burrow is a very good player, his game is very different to that of Dobson in fact he's not so much an organiser more of an off the cuff genius but this season Dobson is in the much better form of the two'" you are correct, they are very different players, Dobson in the Leeds team would offer nothing we dont already have from Sinfield and Mcguire,
Dobson is a much more traditional Scrum half who is more comparable to Long or Brough, Long is class act who dominates Saints, and they are going to miss him massively next year, Pryce (imo) is a nothing player at Stand Off, he is superfluous, he takes a winning saints from winning by ten points to winning by thirty but goes missing in close games, i woudl certainly go for long ahead of Dobson,
Brough is a different kettle of fish, depends on what you want, on his day brough is better and he doesnt seem to be phased by a big occassion, Dobson is more consistant, Brough can win a game single handedly and also be absolutely atrocious, Dobson needs a good workmanlike pack to be anything
i wouldnt have any of them in the leeds team though because they simply wouldnt fit into the way leeds play
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"i cant believe such a simple point confused you
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btw, i would ignore most of the publicly available stats, especially the ones on try assists which seems to have no criteria whatsoever'"
....and should only be quoted if they appear to favour a Leeds player.
How I've missed you on here Smokey.
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| Quote ="Bobbin' Along"....and should only be quoted if they appear to favour a Leeds player.
How I've missed you on here Smokey.
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not really, any that are open to interpretation should be ignored
the only ones i would put faith in are metres made, trys scored, tackles made, etc, the ones which either are or arent,
the try assist one especially seems to be just picked out of a hat
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"and these are the only criteria by which idiots judge a scrum half,
also would this be the 'creating more try' statistic that somehow has Ali Lauitiiti creating one try all season?
which surely shows the ridiculous the criteria for the albert goldthorpe medal is,
considering in both of its years a scrum half for a 'lesser' (note the inverted commas) team has won it, maybe the award in itself is weighted in favour of that type of player?
would this be the SL dream team which rated George Carmont as a better centre than Senior? and Ade Gardner as one of the best two wingers in SL
you are correct, they are very different players, Dobson in the Leeds team would offer nothing we dont already have from Sinfield and Mcguire,
Dobson is a much more traditional Scrum half who is more comparable to Long or Brough, Long is class act who dominates Saints, and they are going to miss him massively next year, Pryce (imo) is a nothing player at Stand Off, he is superfluous, he takes a winning saints from winning by ten points to winning by thirty but goes missing in close games, i woudl certainly go for long ahead of Dobson,
Brough is a different kettle of fish, depends on what you want, on his day brough is better and he doesnt seem to be phased by a big occassion, Dobson is more consistant, Brough can win a game single handedly and also be absolutely atrocious, Dobson needs a good workmanlike pack to be anything
i wouldnt have any of them in the leeds team though because they simply wouldnt fit into the way leeds play'"
zzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzz
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| The fact Smokey disagrees is a massive endorsement of it being true.
On this seasons form Dobson has been the best No 7 in Super League.
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| Quote ="Basil Fawlty"zzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzz'"
Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"The fact Smokey disagrees is a massive endorsement of it being true.
On this seasons form Dobson has been the best No 7 in Super League.'"
sorry, i forgot, why bother with debate or an opinion its the hull kr board
Hull FC are well rubbish innit and Dobson is proper good, them hull fc must be well annoyed!
is that better?
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"The fact Smokey disagrees is a massive endorsement of it being true.
On this seasons form Dobson has been the best No 7 in Super League.'"
But but but but form is temporary and all that
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"But but but but form is temporary and all that
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it is indeed, hence why you are still miles behind us and Saints even though both teams have been god awful for the best part of this season
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"it is indeed, hence why you are still miles behind us and Saints even though both teams have been god awful for the best part of this season'"
Sadly being 5 points behind you won't stop us lifting the trophy
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Sadly been 5 points behind you won't stop us lifting the trophy'"
no, but not getting to the GF will,
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"no, but not getting to the GF will,'"
We'll be facing you at Old Trafford
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"We'll be facing you at Old Trafford'"
no, you wont,
it will be leeds and saints, the only team who could break that up are wigan,
no one else has the experience
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"no, you wont,
it will be leeds and saints, the only team who could break that up are wigan,
no one else has the experience'"
It's ok, we'll go to Saints turn them over for the 3rd time this season and have a home game to make the GF
We've got players who have played in Cup and Grand Final games so we'll cope
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"It's ok, we'll go to Saints turn them over for the 3rd time this season and have a home game to make the GF
We've got players who have played in Cup and Grand Final games so we'll cope'" how many? 4?
how about we put money on it?
leeds, saints or wigan make up the GF, i win
anyone else, you win?
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Plus Netherton, Cockayne, Fisher, Murrell, Aizue all played in the National League GF under massive pressure to lead us on the road to where we are now.
Leeds are by far and away the team to beat but it's not a forgone conclusion as to who the participants will be.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Briscoe
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Briscoe and Cooke were smashed in the only GF they have played, which they got to by default to be honest, (the whole league bar saints were appalling that year, as opposed to this where the whole league is appalling) Newton was a peripheral figure signed by far and away the best team half way through the year,
and none of them have played together
Quote Gene played in the WCC'"
well done stan, its hardly the GF though
Quote Plus Netherton, Cockayne, Fisher, Murrell, Aizue all played in the National League GF under massive pressure to lead us on the road to where we are now.'"
Quote Leeds are by far and away the team to beat but it's not a forgone conclusion as to who the participants will be.'"
it never is,
but as i said i dont think there is a realistic chance of any besides those three getting there, (other than les catalans which ill admit is a hope rather than an expectation) besides, Hull KR really arent 'that' good, they are workmanlike which is, unfortunately, good enough for third/fourth this year
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"sorry, i forgot, why bother with debate or an opinion its the hull kr board
Hull FC are well rubbish innit and Dobson is proper good, them hull fc must be well annoyed!
is that better?'"
Its 2 for the price of one on Dummies at Mothercare.
Stock up Smokey because on Monday Dobson will be in the Dream Team and Burrow wont.
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Its 2 for the price of one on Dummies at Mothercare.
Stock up Smokey because on Monday Dobson will be in the Dream Team and Burrow wont.
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wow, the dream team, really, wow,
that is fantastic, wonderful, he must be better than johns at his peak
i would definately swap a GF win for Burrow being in an imaginary team, thats well good that is
btw, why are you checking the price of dummies at mothercare, thats a bit wierd
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"wow, the dream team, really, wow,
that is fantastic wonderful,
i would definately swap a GF win for Burrow being in an imaginary team, thats well good that is
btw, why are you checking the price of dummies at mothercare, thats a bit wierd'"
It's ok, We have established your somewhat bizarre hatred of Hull Kingston Rovers before now.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"It's ok, We have established your somewhat bizarre hatred of Hull Kingston Rovers before now.'"
i dont hate any team, i love all rl teams, even dirty bradford,
i just dont think you are as good as you think you are,
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"i dont hate any team, i love all rl teams, even dirty bradford,
i just dont think you are as good as you think you are,'"
Well we have been doing something right, i'm enjoying the ride
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"i dont hate any team, i love all rl teams, even dirty bradford,
i just dont think you are as good as you think you are,'"
You just couldn't make it up!
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| Quote ="Bobbin' Along"You just couldn't make it up!'"
well you certainly lack imagination
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| Yes folks, the imaginative people who gave you JJB, Keith Senior and Lee Smith now proudly present "Dirty Bradford".
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