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| It's a tough one. Dagger is a specialist fullback, and I think in the odd game he can be excellent - whether he can continue to perform week in week out remains to be seen. I think saying to him now though you are our first choice gives him real motivation to have a pre season of his life and really set a marker down. The ambiguity of not knowing would of detracted him so I think thats a good move. Dagger has shown glimpses of class so the only real way we know is by putting him in the firing line.
If we are not signing a fullback, I hope we are signing a big beast of a winger. A back 3 of Dagger, Hall, Shaw/oakes would mean teams would just do what Salford did to us week 1 of the qualifiers and kick us to death knowing we can't get sets started
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| All this talk of Craig Hall improving and been a must sign is a little premature I think , has he been tested really ?
Lets face it he has looked improved but in all honesty we have been playing championship rugby with him in the side and as the last poster said he was average against Salford
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| Quote ="Crazyhorse69"All this talk of Craig Hall improving and been a must sign is a little premature I think , has he been tested really ?
Lets face it he has looked improved but in all honesty we have been playing championship rugby with him in the side and as the last poster said he was average against Salford'"
He did well against Hull he went better than I thought he would and everyone’s raving about Jackson Hastings yet he’s played against the same opposition as Hall
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| FWIW
Must go: Todd Carney, Brad Clavering, Matty Marsh, Liam Salter, Nick Scruton, Jordan Walne & Connor Williams
I would have kept Clarkson but going apparently.
We must keep Hall and more so, Blair.
Not many left off contract: Moss - can probably go but backup at FB? Tickle can probably go as we've probably just seen hus swansong season.
I will emphasise this though - Marsh must go to take away the temptation to play him.
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| Quote ="Gallanteer"FWIW
Must go: Todd Carney, Brad Clavering, Matty Marsh, Liam Salter, Nick Scruton, Jordan Walne & Connor Williams
I would have kept Clarkson but going apparently.
We must keep Hall and more so, Blair.
Not many left off contract: Moss - can probably go but backup at FB? Tickle can probably go as we've probably just seen hus swansong season.
I will emphasise this though - Marsh must go to take away the temptation to play him.'"
Marsh would not get a game in a kids team he is that bad
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| Quote ="Crazyhorse69"All this talk of Craig Hall improving and been a must sign is a little premature I think , has he been tested really ?
Lets face it he has looked improved but in all honesty we have been playing championship rugby with him in the side and as the last poster said he was average against Salford'"
Hes looked good on the wing and scored tries, he's not quota and I don't think he'll be on big money, as long as we don't put him anywhere near full back or pay over the odds then I think its a really good signing.
To put this into context he scored a hell of a lot more tries than Carney against the same opposition, Justin never looked like scoring most games and apart from a decent out set or 2 he offered very little.
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| Ken sio to return ?
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| Quote ="des lawson"Ken sio to return ?'"
If he became available there would be a queue for him. Pure quality player and the type of player we need. Would love to have him back, but can,t see it.
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| Regarding fullback, if we’re not signing a specialist i’d assume plan A is to put Atkin there and sign a halfback. Then if Dagger kicks on that’s a bonus.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Regarding fullback, if we’re not signing a specialist i’d assume plan A is to put Atkin there and sign a halfback. Then if Dagger kicks on that’s a bonus.'"
According to TS Dagger is the starting full back next year
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| Quote ="barham red"According to TS Dagger is the starting full back next year'"
Fair enough. Be interesting to see how he goes - certainly looks talented.
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| Rumour has it, Sio is heading back to SL, 2 clubs interested, KR must be one of them, one would think
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| Quote ="Maximillion"Rumour has it, Sio is heading back to SL, 2 clubs interested, KR must be one of them, one would think'"
I'm not so sure Rovers would be interested in any case we only have his agents word that 2 SL clubs are chasing.
Obviously Sio is a very good winger even though most of our fans wanted to convert him to a full back. (By the by... except that with Quinlan signed till 2020 that is surely not even a consideration now and anyway Sheens has said Dagger will start at FB))
So Sio would be an out and out winger and now that Hall has signed and with Shaw, Oakes and Wallis also contracted he would really be taking cap from more pressing areas.
Ken Sio had 2 great years at Rovers but we can't wait around our whole lives for him. We have had to move on and so has he.....our priorities have changed.
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| Sio would be an upgrade on anything we have. In fact he is an upgrade on any SL winger.He was superb for us and one of the few who left with no blame attatched to them for 2016.If possible I'd sign him no doubt.The likes of Thornley and Walker deserted us without hesitation.Sio and Mantellaro gave everything they had..Brilliant person brilliant player .Can we afford him?
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| Got to disagree with HB on this, I'd take Sio back in a heartbeat.
I've alluded to the fact on a couple of other posts I personally think we need a metre making winger to start sets properly, he was our top metre maker two years in a row.
He was a great finisher, and a great defender. All round top player. Imagine him of the outside of Vaivai it would be deadly.
It was also show intention, and be a good boost for season pass sales. With regards to affording him craig, we have just released 9 players surely we have cap to play with.
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| I would also have Sio back in a heartbeat. In addition to his qualities highlighted above he was fantastic in the air, both attack and defense. If Hall and Dagger are to be 2 of the back 3 I also agree we need a stronger kick returner to complement them. We have the cap, quota spot and, imo, need a winger. Not sure there are many other clubs that could also tick all three of those boxes. Add to the fact we have a prior relationship with him, I have to hope we are in for him.
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| Quote ="StanTheMan6"I would also have Sio back in a heartbeat. In addition to his qualities highlighted above he was fantastic in the air, both attack and defense. If Hall and Dagger are to be 2 of the back 3 I also agree we need a stronger kick returner to complement them. We have the cap, quota spot and, imo, need a winger. Not sure there are many other clubs that could also tick all three of those boxes. Add to the fact we have a prior relationship with him, I have to hope we are in for him.'"
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| For me, it,s a no brainer. We were "covered" for backs at the start last season. We got to the point where most of our starting backs were unavailable or crocked and we ended up in the qualifiers again. Sio is quality and would improve the squad and we need to improve. Quinlan probably missing all next season, not sure about Lunt, and injuries will happen. Yes, we need some forwards and I think a full back, but if quality becomes available we have to go for it.
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| Quote ="Old Timer No 4"For me, it,s a no brainer. We were "covered" for backs at the start last season. We got to the point where most of our starting backs were unavailable or crocked and we ended up in the qualifiers again. Sio is quality and would improve the squad and we need to improve. Quinlan probably missing all next season, not sure about Lunt, and injuries will happen. Yes, we need some forwards and I think a full back, but if quality becomes available we have to go for it.'"
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| Got to give Dagger a chance he’s good enough and Atkin can cover id rather sign Sio and another half than a full back
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| Lui,Sio ,Thompson.... All 3 would be great but reckon 1 or 2 of them will come onboard
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| League express reporting Sio on his way to Salford.
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| If true, shown is Loyalty to Hullkr Big Style!
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| Quote ="TheButcher"League express reporting Sio on his way to Salford.'"
Very disappointing if true. With his previous affiliation to Rovers, a quota place and salary cap space available and such little quality on the market we should have secured him.
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| Quote ="Rubyred1"If true, shown is Loyalty to Hullkr Big Style!'"
What world do you live in? He gave his all whilst with us . That is all you can ask. He owes us nothing
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