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| Quote ="mean_machine"I would also take
Hanbury - Widnes
Houston - Widnes
Dudson - as 4th/5th choice prop, leg drive i thought was outstanding
Hansen - Leigh
Acton - Leigh ( need to sort discipline out, but the wizard could do that )
I think we will sign an excellent scrum half, and have mcguire, atkin and signing as the 3, with atkin learning his trade further under someone good.
I would not be surprised to see Blair leave now mission accomplished, so 2nd rowers in the mould of galea/newton would add to our pack immensely'"
Hanbury is a quota player but I'd have him in front of Quinlan anyday. Great player. Can't accomodate both obviously.
Houston - no, another quota player and a very big earner. Not value for money and he looks 50 years old.
Dudson.....decent player but looks too much like a 70's pornstar.
Acton - yes definitely, big tough aggressive, English.
Depends who goes down as to who will be available. It might not be Leigh or Widnes.
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| Quote ="His Bobness"Hanbury is a quota player but I'd have him in front of Quinlan anyday. Great player. Can't accomodate both obviously.
Houston - no, another quota player and a very big earner. Not value for money and he looks 50 years old.
Dudson.....decent player but looks too much like a 70's pornstar.
Acton - yes definitely, big tough aggressive, English.
Depends who goes down as to who will be available. It might not be Leigh or Widnes.'"
Love some of your sumations Acton is a big gamble but under the right stewardship could be a cracking player. ...
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| Aye, they are quota. However generally when teams are related don't they foreign players get dispensation and void contracts.
You can't write Catalans off for relegation true. From there I would have
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Hope Catalans don't go down mind, terrific weekend away that is.
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| Quote ="mean_machine"Aye, they are quota. However generally when teams are related don't they foreign players get dispensation and void contracts.
You can't write Catalans off for relegation true. From there I would have
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Williame
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Gigot ( 2 year ban mind )
Horo
Hope Catalans don't go down mind, terrific weekend away that is.'"
No dispensation for quota players if they go down.
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| No better way than to celebrate promotion than with a 'not good enough, get rid' thread. I'm all for ruthless pursuit of success at the first team level, but we can be gently diplomatic for this bunch of lads, surely?
We've got the foundations of a decent squad. Now that it will be playing next year in SL we probably need to trim the depth (but not too much!) and look for 3 or 4 quality additions. Not superstars necessarily, just good players who'll buy in to what Sheens has planned.
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| done all that before , awarding generous contracts to average players, its a business not a charity, need to be fairly ruthless if finances are available we need to spend wisely on upper end players in order to maintain superleague status ,otherwise dogfight again, not taking anything away from the tremendous effort of the current squad its just life at the top level
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"No better way than to celebrate promotion than with a 'not good enough, get rid' thread. I'm all for ruthless pursuit of success at the first team level, but we can be gently diplomatic for this bunch of lads, surely?
We've got the foundations of a decent squad. Now that it will be playing next year in SL we probably need to trim the depth (but not too much!) and look for 3 or 4 quality additions. Not superstars necessarily, just good players who'll buy in to what Sheens has planned.'"
He that gets hurt will be he that has stalled.
There's a battle outside ragin'.
It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.
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| I think we will run with a squad of no more than 32 next year.
Keepers (26): Shaw, Minns, Heff, Carney, Oakes, Wardill, Salter, Atkin, Abdull, McGuire, Harris, Scruton, Kavanagh, Jewitt, Johnson, Mulhern, Masoe, Lunt, Lawler, Jubb, Clarkson, Blair, Addy, Donno, Cator, Greenwood.
Require (6): Fullback, Outside Back, Halfback, Prop, 2x Second Row
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| If they bring back licencing then there's no real rush for you to bin your current squad unless hudgell wants to be competitive with the top teams from the off.
As a minimum you need at least 2 decent back rowers, a half back and a full back plus cover for lunt and a couple of outside backs
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| 1) New fullback
2)Carney
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5)Another huge winger
6)McGuire
7)New half
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10)Jewitt
11)Blair
12)New backrower
13)Lawler/Abdul (unlikely)
14)Masoe
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17)New big prop
Would be my 17. Again I'm in camp of business not charity, can't afford for all this year to be for nothing if we're in same position as 2016 in 2018.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"If they bring back licencing then there's no real rush for you to bin your current squad unless hudgell wants to be competitive with the top teams from the off.v
As a minimum you need at least 2 decent back rowers, a half back and a full back plus cover for lunt and a couple of outside backs'"
Are we back in 2006? Let's hope Tim Sheens spots your pearls of wisdom. Obviously we are doomed otherwise.
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| Quote ="little coatsy 112"1) New fullback
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9)Lunt
10)Jewitt
11)Blair
12)New backrower
13)Lawler/Abdul (unlikely)
14)Masoe
15)Kav
16)Greenwood
17)New big prop
Would be my 17. Again I'm in camp of business not charity, can't afford for all this year to be for nothing if we're in same position as 2016 in 2018.'"
Interesting that you want a huge winger but only a big prop. Do they need any other attributes or is size the only criterium?
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| Quote ="Keiththered"Are we back in 2006? Let's hope Tim Sheens spots your pearls of wisdom. Obviously we are doomed otherwise.'"
He got you promoted on the back of my advice
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| Quote ="Keiththered"Interesting that you want a huge winger but only a big prop. Do they need any other attributes or is size the only criterium?'"
I think that's because our wingers are the ones who seem to take the five drives up before we kick
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| Quote ="little coatsy 112"1) New fullback
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9)Lunt
10)Jewitt
11)Blair
12)New backrower
13)Lawler/Abdul (unlikely)
14)Masoe
15)Kav
16)Greenwood
17)New big prop
Would be my 17. Again I'm in camp of business not charity, can't afford for all this year to be for nothing if we're in same position as 2016 in 2018.'"
How about some body asks tim sheens what we need I think he is better at this coaching game then us lot don't you
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| Quote ="cravenpark1"How about some body asks tim sheens what we need I think he is better at this coaching game then us lot don't you
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Does he post on here?
If fans are allowed to discuss the squad and give opinion, might as well close this forum down.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Does he post on here?
If fans are allowed to discuss the squad and give opinion, might as well close this forum down.'"
Did you mean that?
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| Quote ="Dave K."Does he post on here?
If fans are allowed to discuss the squad and give opinion, might as well close this forum down.'"
No he maybe does look on hear and when he reads what you say he will think to himself anouther hull fan that thinks he knows it all
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| Quote ="Keiththered"Did you mean that?'"
Of course not.
Unless he is posting under Sandra
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| The fact that in the qualifiers, your home games, you only beat Halifax by 4 points, and London by 5. You need a BIG clear out pre-season, or else it's championship rugby again in 2019
p.s. I couldn't give a 'flying fish' if you win a trophy or get relegated next season, but keiththered has been 'winking him self silly' on the Leigh forum since Saturday....
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"The fact that in the qualifiers, your home games, you only beat Halifax by 4 points, and London by 5. You need a BIG clear out pre-season, or else it's championship rugby again in 2019
p.s. I couldn't give a 'flying fish' if you win a trophy or get relegated next season, but keiththered has been 'winking him self silly' on the Leigh forum since Saturday....
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Ignore him Budgie. Good Luck in the rest of the games.
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| Thanks...we'll need it !
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"The fact that in the qualifiers, your home games, you only beat Halifax by 4 points, and London by 5. You need a BIG clear out pre-season, or else it's championship rugby again in 2019
p.s. I couldn't give a 'flying fish' if you win a trophy or get relegated next season, but keiththered has been 'winking him self silly' on the Leigh forum since Saturday....
'" last year I pointed out on your forum that we went down with +100 points difference and you went up with +35 points difference and got told its the league points that matter not points difference , personel can only be changed or added to according to finances ,if we are in the middle 8s next year we will have a lot better team than this I feel, its up to the superleague clubs to not muck up with their finance advantage in this mini comp
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"The fact that in the qualifiers, your home games, you only beat Halifax by 4 points, and London by 5. You need a BIG clear out pre-season, or else it's championship rugby again in 2019
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It's winning matches that is important Budgie not points for or against. I bet if you compare the points for us and your team in the middle eights there will be very little difference. Where there is a big difference is in the standings we have 10 points you have 4. That is what matters.
We are second you are fifth. We are promoted, you are in danger of relegation.
I'm sure Tim Sheens is very aware of where we need to improve the squad but I'm certain there will not be a big clear out.
Don't know what team we'll put out on Friday but hopefully it will be another win. That would help your cause a little.
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