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| Quote ="robinrovers10"You could hen peck lots of results from last season to suit any agenda. My point is the here and now. I'm not bothered what Leigh did, different team different season. I can more or less guarantee if we complete sets at a good percentage and cut out daft mistakes (both attack and defence), then I will be very disappointed (AGAINST OLDHAM) if we don't rack up a few points.
I am giving Oldham all my respect, but after last seasons disaster, we need to be dominating this league, I am not buying into this "give us 6 or 7 games" malarkey. We are full time and there are no excuses.'"
Oldham have won one and had narrow defeats to London and Fev so not as bad as you make out look at Toronto yesterday
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| Game destroyed as a spectacle by the ref. Job done I suppose. Defended a lot better. Quality kicking from Ellis in that wind, especially the 1st one. Ban looming for Scruton, don't know what he was thinking.
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| Quote ="Sit down, Waldo"Game destroyed as a spectacle by the ref. Job done I suppose. Defended a lot better. Quality kicking from Ellis in that wind, especially the 1st one. Ban looming for Scruton, don't know what he was thinking.'"
I've seen some bad refs but today's was even handed. As for Scruton, who knows, but a number of Oldham indescretions went unpunished today.
Minns really is showing his SL quality at the moment whereas Moss looks like a list child a lot of the time with ball in hand. Took his try well but far too indecisive most of the time. Abdul's kicking in the 1st half wasn't great at times. Overall a solid performance today although we lost our enthusiasm in attack in 2nd half. For the record though, Oldhams defence was shockingly bad at times.
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| The wind was brutal today.
Abdull my MOM, closely followed by Donno and Lunt. We bombed opportunities for more points and caught white line fever again in the second half, lacking composure and vision in the process. Defence was excellent as was forward momentum. Yes, Oldham were poor but we knackered them out in the first half hour playing against a gale force wind, completing at almost 100% and scoring 5 tries in the process. Job well done.
Didn't see what Scruton did to warrant his sin binning. Referee was cack but fair.
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"We aren't Wigan or Saints. We are are 3 games into building a whole new team.
My views on our team last year are all there to check over and at what stage I started to believe we were in a relegation fight.
It's a forum......for discussing opinions.
I can understand fans disappointments after games, the horrors that go with being relegated etc but I can't tolerate this ' We're a big club 'we should be scoring 50 every week' ' snobishness.. It's what has made the Sharks the great under achievers of the superleague era.
Read a little of the other threads. Leigh didn't hammer teams each week. One of the games greatest coaches is 240 minutes into his tenure against opposition coaches and players who want their say about the result and you won't 'accept' another victory like last week (away at the league leaders).
Is this the type of attitude that got Ranieri sacked?
More piffle later...'"
You were saying Mr Forearm?
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| Hewer wasn't too bad, certainly better than last week (Campbell). The biggest error was calling Greenwood as tackled right at the end when his ball carrying arm was a foot in the air!
I just laughed at half of the East Stand moaning about short kick offs, showing their lack of knowledge about the laws of the game.
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| Quote ="Pickering Red"The wind was brutal today.
Abdull my MOM, closely followed your Donno and Lunt. We bombed opportunities for more points and caught white line fever again in the second half, lacking composure and vision in the process. Defence was excellent as was forward momentum. Yes, Oldham were poor but we knackered them out in the first half hour playing against a gale force wind, completing at almost 100%. Job well done.
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Didn't see what Scruton did to warrant his sin binning. Referee was cack but fair.'"
I went with Abdull for mom, hard to pick as it was a good team effort where no one stood out as such. Scruton chicken winged the player, was so blatant but the lino still had to tell the ref, could have been straight red. Went a bit dumb 2nd half but by far best performance of the year.
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| I thought the ref was ok apart from a couple of bizarre calls near the end kept a fast PTB which we've been moaning about minns was good but a bit greedy a couple of times he could of put moss away and didn't and we saw how fast he can be but I would prefer him at FB having Abdul is like having another forward agree with pickers him or Donaldson my mom Scruton was stupid and deserves a ban still think we need another big prop although Clarkson is a lot more effective as a prop than a SR
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| The good the bad and the ugly today, some good play, some overplay, I think it's impossible to put in an 80 minute performance and today was probably about 35 minutes. Oldham tried hard but we're pretty poor today, I kept willing them on to test our goal line defence because I think we need more testing in order to improve it. Spent the second half stood next to Gavin Miller and his wife in the East stand wondering how good he would have been for us in this division.
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| A much needed winning margin, against a very poor team who looked to be short of ideas and direction.
We are still not playing through our sets, seem to be single drives rather than using our line to beat teams on the edges.
Abdul was good today (apart from his early kicking) along with Clarkson, Greenwood and Donno ( my MoM).
Moss is not showing up very well on the wing and maybe it's time to give Oakes a run out and try him at fullback.
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| First 30 mins into the wind was very good.
Second half a mess at times...no patience. The defence was good. They didn't make a break.
Quinlan and Hefernan barely saw the ball.
The kicking game remains a concern. Terrible execution. To get promoted the kicking game has to improve dramatically.
Despite the score we know little else at this stage than were a positive work in progress.
Lunt man of the match for me. Abdul and Scruton the next best.
Any news on Clark?
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"First 30 mins into the wind was very good.
Second half a mess at times...no patience. The defence was good. They didn't make a break.
Quinlan and Hefernan barely saw the ball.
The kicking game remains a concern. Terrible execution. To get promoted the kicking game has to improve dramatically.
Despite the score we know little else at this stage than were a positive work in progress.
Lunt man of the match for me. Abdul and Scruton the next best.
Any news on Clark?'"
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To be fair the wind didn't help with the kicking today, first half into a really strong wind we put up a couple of daft bombs and second half we didn't get to the end of many of our sets to judge the kicking. Definitely right about a work in progress.
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| Quote ="BiltonRobin"Moss is not showing up very well on the wing and maybe it's time to give Oakes a run out and try him at fullback.'"
Not a chance. I would not drop Quinlan just to give Moss a chance in a different position. The kid may have speed but very indecisive. We either stick with him on the wing or just replace him, not move him to FB.
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| Quote ="SirStan"Hewer wasn't too bad, certainly better than last week (Campbell). The biggest error was calling Greenwood as tackled right at the end when his ball carrying arm was a foot in the air!
I just laughed at half of the East Stand moaning about short kick offs, showing their lack of knowledge about the laws of the game.'"
One of the short kicks didn't appear to go the 10 before been blown back.
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| Quote ="Aldy"One of the short kicks didn't appear to go the 10 before been blown back.'"
From where I was stood on the 40, the first I'd give the benefit of the doubt, but only just, but the 2nd was a bit dubious I thought.
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| Quote ="Gallanteer"Not a chance. I would not drop Quinlan just to give Moss a chance in a different position. The kid may have speed but very indecisive. We either stick with him on the wing or just replace him, not move him to FB.'"
Moss is a FB and a very good one just see what the Bradford say about him so not a case of trying him somewhere else
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"First 30 mins into the wind was very good.
Second half a mess at times...no patience. The defence was good. They didn't make a break.
Quinlan and Hefernan barely saw the ball.
The kicking game remains a concern. Terrible execution. To get promoted the kicking game has to improve dramatically.
Despite the score we know little else at this stage than were a positive work in progress.
Lunt man of the match for me. Abdul and Scruton the next best.
Any news on Clark?'"
Pretty good assessment is that, especially regarding the kicking. Think we need to vary it up a bit, no seen an attempted 40/20 yet, yesterdays wind was perfect.
From what ive heard from Sheens, he seems to have a different outlook on kicking, especially regards kicking into the in goal area
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| Just like to say a big thanks to HKR for the welcome at the game yesterday, brilliant stewards and supporters who had a natter with our small band in the Colin Hutton stand, great to see your fans walking out from there applauding the Oldham fans and also the players at the end of the game.
As for the match,well that's the worst we will play all season I hope,game had gone after 15 mins and we never got out of the blocks. Impressive line speed and play the ball speed from your lads all game. Best side in this division by a mile. Good luck for the rest of the season and see you at Bower Fold for the return fixture when hopefully we will put a better display on!
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"Moss is a FB and a very good one just see what the Bradford say about him so not a case of trying him somewhere else'"
Moss may have been a good FB in a poor Bradford side. Quinlan was a good FB in a very good Saints side during his time there. And from what I've seen on the pitch Moss has shown nothing that would want me to choose him over Quinlan. So either Moss improves on the wing or is replaced. He's not a bad player at all, just indecisive. He can get away with that against our current level of opponents but....
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| No disrespect intended towards Oldham, the wind kept Rovers honest in the first half and then, I am afraid, complacency set in.
For me, poor game management in the 2nd half undid the progress of the first half, which I am sure will have annoyed Sheens. At least Rovers nilled Oldham.
My MOM was Thomas Minns; it was a good solid all-round performance albeit greedy at times.
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| After four games in, its probably unfair and premature to say this but yesterday was the ideal stage for Abdull to dominate the middle of the park but he just fizzled out? Yet, in the first half he had his best spell? I remain unconvinced he is the half back Rovers need for the Mid8s.
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| Quote ="Gallanteer"Moss may have been a good FB in a poor Bradford side. Quinlan was a good FB in a very good Saints side during his time there. And from what I've seen on the pitch Moss has shown nothing that would want me to choose him over Quinlan. So either Moss improves on the wing or is replaced. He's not a bad player at all, just indecisive. He can get away with that against our current level of opponents but....'"
Opinions are great aren't they? I think that Moss is wasted on the wing. All game he kept coming in field looking for work. I wouldn't have said he was indecisive at all. To me he looks like he wants to be more involved in play.
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| Firmer grounds will benefit Moss more than any other player imo. Looking a little lost atm. Does Minns have a problem passing to his left?
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| Quote ="Paul_HKR"After four games in, its probably unfair and premature to say this but yesterday was the ideal stage for Abdull to dominate the middle of the park but he just fizzled out? Yet, in the first half he had his best spell? I remain unconvinced he is the half back Rovers need for the Mid8s.'"
Abdul as always blown hot and cold where ever he has played. At Doncaster last season they couldn't work him out and didn't know which player was going to take the field. Featherstone ditto
This is one of the main reasons Hull have sent him out on loan. This season he is looking much leaner and fitter, and has put in some very good performances.
I thought yesterday he played really well in first half and did the same as the rest of the team in the second ( errors and let Oldham slow us down).
He needs time to develop and find consistency, if he doesn't. a spell on the bench with Quiinlan to the half's and Moss or Charlie to F.B. is an option.
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| Quote ="BiltonRobin"Abdul as always blown hot and cold where ever he has played. At Doncaster last season they couldn't work him out and didn't know which player was going to take the field. Featherstone ditto
This is one of the main reasons Hull have sent him out on loan. This season he is looking much leaner and fitter, and has put in some very good performances.
I thought yesterday he played really well in first half and did the same as the rest of the team in the second ( errors and let Oldham slow us down).
He needs time to develop and find consistency, if he doesn't. a spell on the bench with Quiinlan to the half's and Moss or Charlie to F.B. is an option.'"
Interesting, but we actually need experience in the half backs. I'd be tempted to put Bobby in the halves for a game or two to bring a bit of stability. Abdul put in some very iffy kicks in the first half but overall was OK.
I think we're all stating that the half back combo isn't quite working yet. Might just need a bit more time.
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