Tilse was very average last night, but gets everyone on his back, whereas Green is even worse every week and nobody appears to notice.

I agree Green is on a downward spiral, I suspect he has sorted his 2017 contract in Aus and is going through the motions as Taylor did after he signed for Wigan

Don't let your dislike of Taylor get in the way of the truth.

I've said it before about Green runs really hard but rarely breaks a tackle his defence is average in a way very similar to Tilse except Tilse is the better defender yet ones treated a lot better than the other by the fans

Apparently Green has signed for Newcastle in Aus don't think he's good enough for the NRL personally but wish him well

walker is the only prop you have who puts in a decent shift in both attack and defence. The others don't offer anywhere near enough for a SL club

As individuals they have strengths and weaknesses, but I agree, as a group they aren't offering enough. Goes for much of the team tbf.

One of the things that has impressed me about Hull this year is that, from what I've seen, Bowden and Chris Green look the part. We knew Taylor is good player, and that Watts is talented - but if we'd have signed either of JB or CG, I'd not have been impressed. A few hull fans were concerned about the imbalance between back and front row too, iirc.

As Dave K has pointed out previously, using quota spots on steady props is a waste.

Bowden seems to have come on really well this season from what I've seen but Green is average IMO our props with the exception of Walker have all underperformed

I'm not saying they're brilliant, but they're solid, strong and workmanlike. And presumably inexpensive.

Basically, their supporting cast is outperforming our leading actors.

It just shows that a good pre-season and recruitment around them can take players to a higher level.

Just as a rubbish pre-season and mainly signing 'potential', leads to underperformance. If that's compounded by injuries, you're in the doo-do. In the short-term at least, but the short-term is when relegation can happen.

You really are obsessed aren't you?

green is probably the least effective and you need to include thompson in the group too. green just doesn't do enough work for me. Isn't on the field long enough for me so not sure if it's a fitness issue.

The other good thing at Hull this year is if you drop your levels you're out of the team which keeps everyone on their toes

Having a lot of leaders in your pack will help your young forwards I just think Green has been given plenty of chances and will probably be overtaken in the next couple of years

What with? My team are top of the SL, kr are only 9th because hudds & Leeds are poor.

Your overall use of quota players is awful,average props, using two on wingers and two injury prone halfs.

Blair is good as a backrowers also.

5 years your overseas recruitment was the best in the league, in terms of value for money, it must be the worst.

Big changes needed next year.

In a team like Rovers Ken Sio is too good to play on the wing.

Sio and mantallato have been standout players so you can't say it's a waste Blair has carried the team this year Kelly great last year rubbish this year been disappointed with Allgood and Tilse hasn't been great Campese was a risk that hasn't paid off yet

I like your wingers and if you had a good pack and pivots I'd agree, but when your pack is the worst in the league and you have no halfs and FB, is having two quota wingers a great idea.

You would be better having someone Paddy Flynn or Liam Kaye on the wing and spending money on more important positions.

But the problem is Dave when we signed all the overseas players nobody knows what they will turn out like so because the pack players haven't come up to scratch it would be stupid to get rid of the ones that are doing well even if there wingers and Mantallato is on a very low wage for an Aussie if we'd had better luck we could have had Weyman and Poore as our starting props which would have given us that grunt we miss but unfortunately both had to retire

Rumours out of Oz are that Sio is going to Penrith and we are sniffing around Greg Eden for a return

and david furner to leeds rhinos,if that is true i take it we will be going for mc banana then. it is no secret sio wants to go to be back home with his fiancee and there new born twins.. and i think kelly has being told by kr they will not activate his 3rd year option end of season. so that leave us maybe trying to rid us of tilse and see how campese finishes season to make mind up on him..id keep him on behind the scene though. and maybe try luring danny brough and another quality half back who can help marsh develop into a all round quality player.. i would forget eden unless he s improved 150% and comes cheap if so maybe eden at at full back and if rumours true about dean from fc put him in the halves.. that freeing a possible 4 quota spots for some real menacing forwards and maybe a centre or try dixion at centre and get a fast quality winger like mantalato

Dixon at centre???





please stop

i had to lighten the mood mate. i was thinking to many player maybe leaving who would be left. also we need a centre and if sio goes need a winger.. but we also need a couple of menacing forward from aus cos if its to be believed were getting clarke. addy. scruton.. so we could need some beef.. so who would you go for at centre and wing if they leave and which to beefy forward from aus would you want apparently newcastle have atleast 20 add forwards not being used..

I don't know who I would have at centre as I don't know who is available. I do know it wouldn't be Dixon.

Has it says in the advert please no not him

Dixon at centre! STOP IT, I've just pi**ed myself.

pickering red with all the doom and gloom of not knowing who new coach will be or if we will ever get big forwards in and tighten up our defence. thought i would lighten the mood and make everyone laugh