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| Quote ="fun time frankie"Can't remember saying I was happy with it I'm just not delusional'"
Tbh, delusional never seems to be a Rovers fan's trait. Acceptance of anything with a shred of effort seems to be.
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| Quote ="Hessle rover"Tbh, delusional never seems to be a Rovers fan's trait. Acceptance of anything with a shred of effort seems to be.'"
IT WAS A POOR PERFORMANCE ITS NOT THE FIRST AND IT WONT BE THE LAST and I'm sorry you were disgusted at me saying you sound like a Hull fan but nothing you've added since convinces me otherwise
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| I didn't over react last week because I could see that Leeds being rubbish contributed as much as we did to the result. Equally, I'm not going to need suicide watch after that. Any semblance of a competitive game disappeared before we got a set with the ball. They look class and that's without Carney. We are not going to get any consistency with our squad this year. Once you realise that then you can de-stress.
At least it will be warm when we get to see the French shaft us again next month.
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"IT WAS A POOR PERFORMANCE ITS NOT THE FIRST AND IT WONT BE THE LAST and I'm sorry you were disgusted at me saying you sound like a Hull fan but nothing you've added since convinces me otherwise'"
Couldn't give a fig tbh. I've supported Rovers through thick and (mostly) extremely thin. I've been to Chorley Lynx, Whitehaven, and various places like that watching rovers. I've nothing to prove the likes of you.
My posts are a disappointment of most rovers fans seeing the glass half full after a season like we're having right now.
It needs fans like myself to have a different view to the airy fairy views that most seem to accept with rovers most years.
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| I've just got back to Pick Your Ring 15 minutes before usual. Little or no traffic on the way back helped and leaving 10 minutes before the end was a revelation. It was unwatchable for me in the second half. I was embarrassed by our ineptitude. Just had to get out of the funeral parlour that was Craven Park tonight.
I can't make my mind up if we were so bad or Catalans were so brilliant.
After some deliberation I've finally decided. Good as Catalans were and they made it look effortless at times, we were a carbon copy of our preseason performances and our home game to Wakefield. This time we were generous in coughing up possession, slapdash in defence, had a guy playing winger who gifted our opposition 3 of the first 4 tries and we all seemed half hearted and short of ideas. Add in to the mix some dubious refereeing decisions against us and no luck at all on the night and the result was a foregone conclusion after 25 mins. We did well to get zero and Cats should have put over 50 on us.
I don't buy this 4 games in 12 days mullarkey, thin squad and lack of squad rotation opportunity as a series of mitigating factors for tonight. Same for most teams. We just didn't turn up. The first 4 tries were so soft, our heads dropped.
Kieran Dixon is a TOTAL liability. He is not learning and keeps making the same mistakes. No brain and no courage. We need to get rid of him.
Onwards and upwards to the Middle 8s. Bring on 2017.
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| Quote ="Hessle rover"Couldn't give a fig tbh. I've supported Rovers through thick and (mostly) extremely thin. I've been to Chorley Lynx, Whitehaven, and various places like that watching rovers. I've nothing to prove the likes of you.
My posts are a disappointment of most rovers fans seeing the glass half full after a season like we're having right now.
It needs fans like myself to have a different view to the airy fairy views that most seem to accept with rovers most years.'"
We've all been there watching 3rd division rugby 1-0 home defeats to barrow which makes me take a SL defeat and a poor performance with a pinch of salt I'd love to see the days of the early eighties again when I was a kid watching but it's not going to happen anytime soon
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| Quote ="Hessle rover"Couldn't give a fig tbh. I've supported Rovers through thick and (mostly) extremely thin. I've been to Chorley Lynx, Whitehaven, and various places like that watching rovers. I've nothing to prove the likes of you.
My posts are a disappointment of most rovers fans seeing the glass half full after a season like we're having right now.
It needs fans like myself to have a different view to the airy fairy views that most seem to accept with rovers most years.'"
I agree with you, this is an awful season, but none of us are "better" fans than one another.
I stood behind some fifteen year old kids at Headingly last week and they were incredibly passionate about the club.
It's fine to say that people have "airy fairy" views, but what solutions are you offering?
You and I can't, unless we win the lottery, go mental and hugely invest in the club.
I know I'm not supplying and answers here, I just think it's a little more complex than saying evrything's wrong, we need to change everything. And I've deliberately over egged that phrase.
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| Quote ="Pickering Red"I've just got back to Pick Your Ring 15 minutes before usual. Little or no traffic on the way back helped and leaving 10 minutes before the end was a revelation. It was unwatchable for me in the second half. I was embarrassed by our ineptitude. Just had to get out of the funeral parlour that was Craven Park tonight.
I can't make my mind up if we were so bad or Catalans were so brilliant.
After some deliberation I've finally decided. Good as Catalans were and they made it look effortless at times, we were a carbon copy of our preseason performances and our home game to Wakefield. This time we were generous in coughing up possession, slapdash in defence, had a guy playing winger who gifted our opposition 3 of the first 4 tries and we all seemed half hearted and short of ideas. Add in to the mix some dubious refereeing decisions against us and no luck at all on the night and the result was a foregone conclusion after 25 mins. We did well to get zero and Cats should have put over 50 on us.
I don't buy this 4 games in 12 days mullarkey, thin squad and lack of squad rotation opportunity as a series of mitigating factors for tonight. Same for most teams. We just didn't turn up. The first 4 tries were so soft, our heads dropped.
Kieran Dixon is a TOTAL liability. He is not learning and keeps making the same mistakes. No brain and no courage. We need to get rid of him.
Onwards and upwards to the Middle 8s. Bring on 2017.'"
I know people say it's the same for all teams but I disagree Leeds who lost all three Easter period games had probably the easiest fixtures we had a hard schedule on comparison which is why tonight went pretty much like I expected
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"We've all been there watching 3rd division rugby 1-0 home defeats to barrow which makes me take a SL defeat and a poor performance with a pinch of salt I'd love to see the days of the early eighties again when I was a kid watching but it's not going to happen anytime soon'"
The eighties was a once in a lifetime period. But what we are going through right now isn't far off what we experienced in the early nineties. And we all know what happened after that period!
It needs fans to challenge other fans at least, not accepting the bog standard average that we are experiencing right now. Otherwise.....what's the point??Hell, we finished 4th comfortable once. What's gone wrong since those days!
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| Tilse MUST go. I've defended him occasioally but....
On average he makes 5 metres, apart from 2 or 3 runs.
He offloads once per game.
He makes 2 or 3 big tackles per game and then is ineffective/falls off the rest.
He played well in the middle 8s, but cannot face up to proper forwards in the SL. He is at best a championship level player. We seriously need to get rid as his attitude is affecting the others. We need a pack leader not a passenger
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| Quote ="Gallanteer"Tilse MUST go. I've defended him occasioally but....
On average he makes 5 metres, apart from 2 or 3 runs.
He offloads once per game.
He makes 2 or 3 big tackles per game and then is ineffective/falls off the rest.
He played well in the middle 8s, but cannot face up to proper forwards in the SL. He is at best a championship level player. We seriously need to get rid as his attitude is affecting the others. We need a pack leader not a passenger'"
Who shall we sign then?
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| I'm not accepting of the status quo but sanguine regarding our current plight.
No knee jerk reactions from me yet. However, I predict along with most that we won't have too many ups this season and we will remain in the bottom 4, but we should go well in the middle 8s. We will survive in SL imo.
Before the split, we need to take a long look at some of our players and make some tough contractual decisions regarding their future and our ROI. No doubt, I will get Stan and others bouncing up and down saying I know nothing about sporting contracts. Tough commercial decisions are normal when needs must and there is no area where it acts as a 2 Way Street than in sport.
To the board and JP, get tough and get rid where necessary. Just do it.
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| Quote ="Sandro II Terrorista"I agree with you, this is an awful season, but none of us are "better" fans than one another.
I stood behind some fifteen year old kids at Headingly last week and they were incredibly passionate about the club.
It's fine to say that people have "airy fairy" views, but what solutions are you offering?
You and I can't, unless we win the lottery, go mental and hugely invest in the club.
I know I'm not supplying and answers here, I just think it's a little more complex than saying evrything's wrong, we need to change everything. And I've deliberately over egged that phrase.'"
I'm not saying that one person is better than another, what I despair at is that we all (seem) to accept that what we watch at rovers is the 'norm'. Well i'll tell most of you.....it's bloody awful. The team of 2006 that beat wire in the Challenge cup quarters would muller us right now.
We've seen to of all been hypnotised that what we see is ok. Peacock hasn't shown his worth and the board have been as silent as I've ever known.
I'm just providing a different prospective to what some of you don't seem to get.
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| Quote ="Hessle rover"I'm not saying that one person is better than another, what I despair at is that we all (seem) to accept that what we watch at rovers is the 'norm'. Well i'll tell most of you.....it's bloody awful. The team of 2006 that beat wire in the Challenge cup quarters would muller us right now.
We've seen to of all been hypnotised that what we see is ok. Peacock hasn't shown his worth and the board have been as silent as I've ever known.
I'm just providing a different prospective to what some of you don't seem to get.'"
What are you actually expecting Peacock to do?
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| Quote ="roversmad"What are you actually expecting Peacock to do?'"
He seems pretty good at promoting his reputation, and business acumen. But I'm at a loss of what he actually does at Rovers. Could you tell me??
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| That was awful at home against the Catalans 0 40
Why have we got the smallest squad in the league
We made a few quid last year
Our recruitment is poor the CEO Smith has been quiet these last months.
I know that without Hudgell and Crossland we would be finished financially
Where do we go from here. Don't say down to the coast I fear
We celebrate our tenth year in the league
Catalan have been in eleven
I remember playing them in the cup when they were UTC before promotion
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| Quote ="roversmad"Who shall we sign then?'"
I would actually try and get Livegrove back. Not perfect but a damn sight better and cheaper than Tilse. Sandercock was the reason he left.
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| Quote ="Hessle rover"I'm not saying that one person is better than another, what I despair at is that we all (seem) to accept that what we watch at rovers is the 'norm'. Well i'll tell most of you.....it's bloody awful. The team of 2006 that beat wire in the Challenge cup quarters would muller us right now.
We've seen to of all been hypnotised that what we see is ok. Peacock hasn't shown his worth and the board have been as silent as I've ever known.
I'm just providing a different prospective to what some of you don't seem to get.'"
Sorry but that 2006 side wouldn't beat the current side as good as that QF win was we got thumped in the semi and the problem with overseas signings now is not that many top class players come over and when they do they don't want to play for a bottom four club so you either take a chance ie campese and hope it comes off or take a chance on a young player from the Queensland cup
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"Sorry but that 2006 side wouldn't beat the current side as good as that QF win was we got thumped in the semi and the problem with overseas signings now is not that many top class players come over and when they do they don't want to play for a bottom four club so you either take a chance ie campese and hope it comes off or take a chance on a young player from the Queensland cup'"
That 2006 side lost the semi without Webster, the always impressive Michael Smith, and a lot of other influential players. Don't kid yourself, that side would give out team right now one hell of a game.
We've payed top money for our overseas players, I don't get why some fans see it 'ok' that we are where we are right now. It's a bloody disgrace to me!
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| Quote ="Rover105"
I remember playing them in the cup when they were UTC before promotion'"
Erm, we lost that game.
A player we should have tried to sign, Jamal Fakir destroyed us.
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| Quote ="Hessle rover"That 2006 side lost the semi without Webster, the always impressive Michael Smith, and a lot of other influential players. Don't kid yourself, that side would give out team right now one hell of a game.
We've payed top money for our overseas players, I don't get why some fans see it 'ok' that we are where we are right now. It's a bloody disgrace to me!'"
I could understand your frustrations if we had our full first team out there playing but we haven't and until we do things won't change
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| Quote ="Hessle rover"That 2006 side lost the semi without Webster, the always impressive Michael Smith, and a lot of other influential players. Don't kid yourself, that side would give out team right now one hell of a game.
We've payed top money for our overseas players, I don't get why some fans see it 'ok' that we are where we are right now. It's a bloody disgrace to me!'"
None of us are happy, I just don't see what's to be achieved by being the most outraged.
If what you're saying is that those early teams, the Morgan teams, were more than the sum of those parts then I agree.
We were an over performing team then, and that's why you have a coach and that's what their job is.
Currently, we are an under performing team, but we're a club, not a team (there needs to be a distinction between club and team) that's trying to retain our top flight status whilst hopefully becoming more sustainable, and so we're told that there is a plan.
It might be nice if they told us what the plan is whilst we all shell out for season ticket's.
Many of us have expressed that we couldn't understand why we didn't go out and get a strike back rower and a nasty prop. We all put that down to Chester's recruitment objectives, but he's gone and we're none the wiser as to why that didn't happen or why we're not in the loan market.
I am aware that I've stepped on both sides of the line, it was entirely intentional.
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| Quote ="roversmad"Who shall we sign then?'"
After the pay off we won't be able to sign anyone as to just "get rid" mid season would cost a fortune and it would all come off the cap. So, back in the real world Tilse is staying and after all, he really isn't as bad as some make out. I await the stats being published to show this.
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| Quote ="Gallanteer"I would actually try and get Livegrove back. Not perfect but a damn sight better and cheaper than Tilse. Sandercock was the reason he left.'"
When you say "cheaper" does that include the transfer fee as well as the pay off to get rid of Tilse?
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| Quote ="SirStan"When you say "cheaper" does that include the transfer fee as well as the pay off to get rid of Tilse?'"
Possibly. He's playing for Bradford at the mo. I notice you didn't dispute that he is better than Tilse. My son calls Tilse the BFG because of his lack of aggression.
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