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| Quote ="Hessle rover"Sorry PR. I only took your post literally as I find little humour about the way Kelly has conducted himself this year.
He is on form the one of the best player in this league as we all know. But he's not been interested this year. His gut says it all! Plus the Indiscretion over Xmas wasn't his finest moment either.
Some of us have been frustrated with Campese's lengthy absence, but we've not had much more of Kelly tbh. Marsh is young and British but lacks the skills of Kelly, but his heart is there. He's already had a fair few games at superleague level, and that'll only do him good. Let's face it, we ain't reaching top 8 this year, so we might as well go and bring through our own now to benefit us for next season. This year hopefully can be the making of him.'"
Heart......Marsh missed touch in the first half. Blair gave him the ball next penalty and he gave Blair the ball back....bottled it and disappeared second half contributing a kick out on the full when we were under the kosh.
The kid needs to grow some to become a decent half back. I've yet to see Kelly shirk anything....including seconds.
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| Quote ="SirStan"Shall we talk about it yet, or is it still too soon?'"
You might have seen my gloomy foreboding elsewhere. That was before rovers won at the weekend, and my outlook has now been upgraded to nervously pessimistic.
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"Heart......Marsh missed touch in the first half. Blair gave him the ball next penalty and he gave Blair the ball back....bottled it and disappeared second half contributing a kick out on the full when we were under the kosh.
The kid needs to grow some to become a decent half back. I've yet to see Kelly shirk anything....including seconds.'"
He's gotta learn and be more brave that's for sure, but give the kid a chance. After all when Kelly goes back next year he might be one of our starting halves. I'd rather him have some games under his belt then being sat on the sidelines all year.
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| Thanks BF. You're much more accurate and closer to reality with your latest 2 posts and certainly in tune with my thought processes in this regard (if that's any consolation of course)
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| Quote ="Hessle rover"He's gotta learn and be more brave that's for sure, but give the kid a chance. After all when Kelly goes back next year he might be one of our starting halves. I'd rather him have some games under his belt then being sat on the sidelines all year.'"
I hope he makes it. There's a player in there. Not convinced yet by a long way. His character appears his greatest weakness.
Harsh comparison but he's no Andy Gregory.
Recently saw the 3rd 1986 test v Australia. Gregory caught a kick off and sprinted 20 metres straight....straight mind you no deviating, no slowing straight at Mal Meninga and skittled him to the amusement and bemusement of the Aussie commentator.
Marsh needs to show some leadership at half. So far not a glimpse of it.
I'm sick of the constant xenophobia. The over seas players don't try etc whilst appalling performances by local players go by without comment.
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| The thing with Albert is that if his form doesn't improve, he won't get his gig in the NRL so he needs to show the form he did last year to make himself a viable prospect. Marsh is improving as a player but at this time would appear to lack the leadership skill needed in the halves
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"I hope he makes it. There's a player in there. Not convinced yet by a long way. His character appears his greatest weakness.
Harsh comparison but he's no Andy Gregory.
Recently saw the 3rd 1986 test v Australia. Gregory caught a kick off and sprinted 20 metres straight....straight mind you no deviating, no slowing straight at Mal Meninga and skittled him to the amusement and bemusement of the Aussie commentator.
Marsh needs to show some leadership at half. So far not a glimpse of it.
I'm sick of the constant xenophobia. The over seas players don't try etc whilst appalling performances by local players go by without comment.'"
I agree with most of that about Marsh, he definitely needs to grow some if he's going to make it. You could see his confidence drain when he missed the kick into touch. He needs to understand sh*t happens and forget it. Just look at Danny Brough, he'll kick the odd howler but it never stops him kicking the next one.
My view of Marsh is that his tactical kicking can be the best we have at the club, as I've said Kelly's kicking game is patchy at best. I really think Marsh's game will suit Websters coaching of a team that will be underdogs on Friday, I just hope he can instill the confidence needed.
I don't think Kelly isn't trying, he doesn't look fit at all which is the biggest worry, is that him being rushed back or just not looking after himself I don;t know. On the pitch though he puts a stint in but all HB's need a team around them to make the stuff they do come off, otherwise it just looks headless.
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| Let's be fair - Kelly was only rushed back for Wembley. He's pretty much had the same full pre season other players have had. Up to his injury this season he had the 2 friendly games and 3 competitive games under his belt. Somewhere between Dec and Feb Rovers/Kelly should have had enough time to address/or act on any potential fitness concerns. As fans we clearly only see a small fraction of all things players/coach relationships etc, but the difference we saw with Kelly pre Chester going and the snippet afterwards was tangible. It may not be a stretch to imagine things haven't been great behind the scenes.
Marsh being a young’un will always likely receive plenty of slack from fans at times. I think the best thing that happened to him on a few occasions on Sunday, was at times he was isolated/hit and forced to think on his feet. Too many times, I think his first and second thought process is to simply pass the ball/responsibility on, as others have also alluded to. Sink or swim philosophy needed.
As for Kelly playing or not playing on Friday …
If what we’ve been told is true, he hasn’t trained since the build up to Hudds away. You have to imagine he won’t be great, with just a day or two this week. I doubt he has much fitness in the bank to really fall back on, so in a way he’ll be in a worse fitness state than pre St Helens game (in theory). To get the best out of Kelly, he needs to put himself about/run around- be Albert Kelly trying everything and anything. Physically is he (will he be) in a position to do that? I’m not even sure James Webster knows. The tone in which Webbo spoke about the issue on RH, sounded very disheartened by it all tbh. There wasn’t much definitive about the situation/injury. “Kelly made the call Hudds game / he may have a reoccurrence / see how he is next week/not sure”
Kelly won’t be risked … or nailed on Kelly man of the match then …?
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| As I've just posted on the dedicated Albert Kelly topic on here. There are pictures of him on the club website with the other lads on the pitch at today's training session. He looks happy and much trimmer than 4 games ago against Saints.
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| If anybody watched the latest SLS on BBC this week, our pack had big wraps in quotes by studio guests, Mark Flanagan of Salford and Kevin Brown of Widnes.
The nub was that Salford were bullied by our BIG and aggressive pack this week according to Flanagan, whilst Brown concurred that our pack was BIG and aggressive and
made easy metres and caused Widnes a lot of problems the other week.
Insider information working in our favour. Being able to field 6 props, 2 of whom in Allgood and Greenwood are mobile when assigned to the back row is a massive boost at the moment.
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| Sorry, guys and gals for a lot of my posts in quick succession.
Kelly is named in the 19 man derby squad. Greenwood and Horne too. Still no Lunt.
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| Quote ="Pickering Red"If anybody watched the latest SLS on BBC this week, our pack had big wraps in quotes by studio guests, Mark Flanagan of Salford and Kevin Brown of Widnes.
The nub was that Salford were bullied by our BIG and aggressive pack this week according to Flanagan, whilst Brown concurred that our pack was BIG and aggressive and
made easy metres and caused Widnes a lot of problems the other week.
Insider information working in our favour. Being able to field 6 props, 2 of whom in Allgood and Greenwood are mobile when assigned to the back row is a massive boost at the moment.'"
The both actually said we had a massive pack
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"They both actually said we had a massive pack'"
You've just unwittingly redefined the word, PRAT.
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| They also said that we had a great team, so I wouldn't take much notice of their opinion!!
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| Hey Rovers Buddies,
I am planing on meeting a couple of Rovers fans after the game, where is the main bar at Rovers and do you need to be a member or get signed in?
Good luck for Monday
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| Quote ="Dave K."Hey Rovers Buddies,
I am planing on meeting a couple of Rovers fans after the game, where is the main bar at Rovers and do you need to be a member or get signed in?
Good luck for Monday
Dave'"
You won't need signing in be we need to see your vaccination certs.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Hey Rovers Buddies,
I am planing on meeting a couple of Rovers fans after the game, where is the main bar at Rovers and do you need to be a member or get signed in?
Good luck for Monday
Dave'"
After the game or even before if you can, get yourself down to soccer sensations where there is live entertainment from 11 am onwards including after the game.
Prices are also cheaper than the bars at Rovers, plus just in case you are hungry, they (soccer sensations) are doing a pint and a sausage sarnie special for £3, 10.00am onwards.
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| Cheers I think mate, think they are posh (for Rovers fans) and prefer the main bar, is it in the West sand or the North?
I also choosing to be the bigger person and ignore Stan's comments.
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| I'd say the most 'traditional' bar at Rovers is the Robins Nest (it's been open much longer than the East Stand bar anyway). This is situated under the Roger Millward Stand (or whatever it's called these days!), to the left of the player entrance if you're stood in the car park facing the stand.
I've not been in for maybe three or four years, but last time I did it had gone from been RSG members or pass holders only (can't remember which) to open access, but obviously you're best checking more officially if possible e.g. ring the club.
I'd say you'll be made much more welcome in Hull colours in the Robins Nest than the East Stand bar without a doubt. There is also the Harry Poole bar upstairs in the West Stand and Flannagan's Bar I think, but I know very little about these unfortunately.
So basically, I'd opt for the Robins' Nest if I was yourself, but phone the club first and check it's still open-access.
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| Just realised, there is also a North Stand bar of course nowadays. This will probably be good if you're going in that stand as a Hull fan, but if your Rovers mates are going elsewhere (e.g. the Main Stand seats) the Robins' Nest is probably still a good option. I've been in there before on derby day I'm sure, and it's always been very welcoming to fans of other clubs too.
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| Wonder if the chavs in the South stand can manage to behave this year. Depends on the result I suppose.
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| Hull FC - Official Facebook Page
It's official! We've now broken the record for the most away fans at a Hull KR fixture at the KC Lightstream Stadium! Could be plenty more too as Hull KR have agreed to open a cash turnstile at tomorrow's game. Let's raise the imaginery roof and get behind the boys! Thanks for your fantastic support #BlackandWhiteArmy
Looks like its going to be a great atmosphere
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| A full line of heavy handed stewards in front of the South Stand should be mandatory for this fixture.
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| Why don't you meet your mates in the 0 - 50 bar?
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