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| Quote ="Hessle rover"Ahh, another question. What's your opinion of the squad/coaches/performances this pre season. Looking forward to your thoughts.....'"
You're the one calling for Chester's head. I'm still waiting to hear who YOU want him replaced with......
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| Quote ="Hessle rover"It makes me wonder what amount of cap was used tying up Lunt and Campese on long term contracts. Maybe we never had the cap to bring in big quality forwards?'"
It looks that way. Plus, there was never going to be much fed-trained talent available for a bottom half club, I guess.
All that said, from watching the Huddersfield game between my fingers on KRTV and listening today, I think something has gone badly wrong with pre-season. From Chester's interview last week, I think he does too. He looked like a guy who'd forgotten to prepare for a presentation - one that is due to last into the Autumn.
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| Quote ="roversmad"You're the one calling for Chester's head. I'm still waiting to hear who YOU want him replaced with......'"
I already replied to that question. And you haven't already noticed, you'll find I'm not alone in calling for his head.
What's your thoughts....
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| Quote ="roversmad"You're the one calling for Chester's head. I'm still waiting to hear who YOU want him replaced with......'"
Father Christmas, then if it doesn't work out we can give him the sack before Christmas.
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| Quote ="Hessle rover"I already replied to that question. And you haven't already noticed, you'll find I'm not alone in calling for his head.
What's your thoughts....'"
So, you don't know who you want to see replace him then? Why don't you just say so?
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| Not a good day at the office.
Did they announce the attendance?
Looked down on last seasons friendly
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| I want Chezzie and Poching out now. Too nice and not tough enough. I expect the board will only act if we get a 0-3 start and the performances remain as dire as they are at the mo.
Even that might be too late. This squad lacks biff, strength, mental fortitude and without Campo, any leadership. I also think deep down that some of these players don't trust one another defensively anymore and as a result our attack is now misfiring.
Another massive prop, big ball carrying second row and a top centre are priorities. Sack Tilse, Allgood, Larroyer, Cockayne and Donaldson. Marsh is not the answer.
Need to go left field on the coach front - Sinfield, Shaun Edwards, Glenn Morrison, Richard Marshall or a big name Aussie.
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| Quote ="Keith_Lard"Not a good day at the office.
Did they announce the attendance?
Looked down on last seasons friendly'"
Think they announced 8900 ish 500 down on last year. As giddy as I am from the high we had today, friendliest do mean nothing. However your players with a couple of exceptions seemed to be going through the motions.
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| I can't see where our next win is going to come from. It's a good job that we worked on defence since the Huddersfield game or we would have been really hammered. I can't see us progressing under the current regime so we have make a change now. As for a replacement; is Justin Morgan available?
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| Apologies for my optimism on saying hull would win by 20 to 30 pts,my fear and dread and fedupness on the forth coming season is strong with this one Luke, funtime Frankie you thought I was maybe too pessimistic on said words and you asked me for lottery numbers, tell me your not this way in feeling ever so slightly marginally worried.they have frank the tank we have Mitch the titch (in feckin heart).
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| Hi Hull smaller, so you should be giddy on your team, I am so envious of your side,whilst I knew your pack would be a force I was equally impressed with your edges ,quality everywhere,well done Pearson/Radford, as regards our players going through the motions,how very dare you ,some didn't have any motion.
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| We're witnessing a man way way out his depth. This manifested itself in the Wembley debacle when the players appeared overwhelmed by the whole thing.
This is only going to get worse and worse. He is making a colossal mess which we need to halt now before it becomes unfixable.
Why wait Chester should go now or this season will be a disaster.
The reported new signing ain't gonna help either. Another square peg..
Why the f#ck did we buy Shaw. Plenty of players in that position. Horne and the bigot retained and Welham let go....why? Tilse...had he seen him play. We were desperate at the time but then offer a 6month contract.
No worries Salter will be back soon to shaw up the edges.....
I could go on and on. Biggest give away is we have the worst defence in the league and we change nothing. Did we lay a glove on Pritchard.....him and Sneyd didn't get their shirts dirty.
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| Quote ="roversmad"So, you don't know who you want to see replace him then? Why don't you just say so?'"
If I was privy to who was available then I'd hazard a guess. Here's one tho. How about Morgan back with Clint Newton as assistant. A pairing you wouldn't f*** with.
So if your in the Chezzie in camp. What do you think he brings?
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| I like the sound of a Morgan/Newton partnership. At least they know what is required to win games but would they be able to do it with the current squad?
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| Chester asked after the match if there were any injuries. He said two. Green has a hamstring problem but can't remember who the other player is. Can't remember!! Embarrassing!
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| Yes I heared that ian, he is quite a character is chessie
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| Quote ="Pickering Red"I want Chezzie and Poching out now. Too nice and not tough enough. I expect the board will only act if we get a 0-3 start and the performances remain as dire as they are at the mo.
Even that might be too late. This squad lacks biff, strength, mental fortitude and without Campo, any leadership. I also think deep down that some of these players don't trust one another defensively anymore and as a result our attack is now misfiring.
Another massive prop, big ball carrying second row and a top centre are priorities. Sack Tilse, Allgood, Larroyer, Cockayne and Donaldson. Marsh is not the answer.
Need to go left field on the coach front - Sinfield, Shaun Edwards, Glenn Morrison, Richard Marshall or a big name Aussie.'"
I agree PR with your sentiments.
What makes me angry is the fact that I keep hearing people saying...well its only a friendly and its meaningless etc.
What are these people on for gods sake? was it not also a friendly for Hull as it was also for Huddersfield last week? , I wonder if they had the same unprofessional mind set, obviously not.
Many people including myself said at the end of last season that we had reservations about Chester and Pochings (especially Pochings) ability to take the club forward but thought ok, we will give them the benefit of the doubt and see how the close season turns out.
Well the close season is now over and we are just 2 weeks away from our 1st competitive game, looking no better than were we left off at the end of last season and in fact possibly even worse in some departments.
As you say, we lack some big punch up front, something Hull looked to have in abundance today though its to early to predict just how good they will be against better opposition, most people you talked to at the end of last season realised that we did not have the weight and aggressiveness up front and was something that needed to be addressed so, why did Chester and his coaching team not realise it and make it one of their priorities.
Of our current crop of players I would say Donaldson is a grafter but simply not big enough, Cockayne looked out of sorts and I wonder if his heart is really in it anymore.
Marsh once again looked ineffective, he just does not appear to have that self confidence to boss a game, the centres were also disappointing though I still believe they do have potential and are still young enough to realize it and mature into good players.
When you watch Rovers you do get the impression that it does not take much to knock them off their game, which fits in with your comment regarding mental fortitude.
With regards to who would we get in as head and defence coach replacements, I would imagine this is what JP and Mike Smith are paid to do and I would hope that they are already making some kind of contingency plans should Rovers find themselves in a position where they have to take drastic action early in the season.
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| The problem is we need new staff now and do it tomorrow get rid and find some one new or else we will be in the championship next season
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| The 4 tries in 9 minutes in 1st half killed the game. Without that spell it would have been competitive. But thats the point isn't it. 4 tries in 9 mins is not SL quality.
We have bags of unrealised potential in this squad but the Chester/Poaching combo doesb't look set to unlock it.
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| Quote ="kitche"Hi Hull smaller, so you should be giddy on your team, I am so envious of your side,whilst I knew your pack would be a force I was equally impressed with your edges ,quality everywhere,well done Pearson/Radford, as regards our players going through the motions,how very dare you ,some didn't have any motion.'"
Early signs are indeed positive, but I have long since learned not to get too giddy too early. Especially from something that had nothing at stake.
Your side needed to address the grunt up front and you have not really, and I think that clearly you are paying a few players maybe more than they should be on.
Our pack is a monster and when we get Ellis back I reckon up there with the best.
Time will tell how we go, I said sixth which if are a "comfortable" sixth would be an improvement. See how the others go.
I do think you will be bottom four.
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| I would love to know what Chester had to say after the game
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| Quote ="robin1972"I would love to know what Chester had to say after the game'"
He said the same old guff he normally comes out with. Unfortunately Radio Humberside take the usual stance and never ask any probing questions like, 'what the hell did you and your shower do in this off season??'
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| Quote ="Hessle rover"He said the same old guff he normally comes out with. Unfortunately Radio Humberside take the usual stance and never ask any probing questions like, 'what the hell did you and your shower do in this off season??''"
They went volunteering
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| Quote ="robin1972"I would love to know what Chester had to say after the game'"
Not sure about the dressing room powwow, but I expect he spewed the same cack to the players that he uttered last week after the Giants drubbing, in the exact same and uninspiring monotone drone. That clearly worked a treat.
Heard his RH post match deep sighs. He repeats the same tosh to the media every time we get dry bummed. Only this time he had the air of a man who had just p*ssed on his bag of chips, wrapped in his P45. What's worse was RH went easy on him too, with nothing probing or insightful, not wishing to kick a man when he's down. Sycophantic idiots.
Imo, he still has no sense of perspective as to the enormity of the task ahead this season with this squad of players.
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| Quote ="Hessle rover"If I was privy to who was available then I'd hazard a guess. Here's one tho. How about Morgan back with Clint Newton as assistant. A pairing you wouldn't f*** with.
So if your in the Chezzie in camp. What do you think he brings?'"
At last, an answer. Why do you think we should bring back Morgan? I never said I was pro Chester, I'm just not ready to slit my wrists over a friendly.
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