So the KR fans were actually fighting amongst themselves.

Were they? Or did they just seem to be? The Leeds fans were though, have you been on their forum to express your outrage?

I'm not trolling. les cats are the pick of that bunch IMO. Awful away from home (got lucky when hudds took their foot off the gas today). widens are also pretty dire away but can be dangerous. i just wouldn't want leigh as it's a potential massive banana skin if you're not on form.

if you know what actually happened then say so! Why are you dodging the question?

Why does it bother you so much?

Did YOU witness the incident, where YOU there?

These are the most pertinent questions of your line of enquiry so far.

Will YOU answer those questions?

Yes I was there (in the Gallowgate end) and saw the incident! What I am interested in is a view from someone who was closer to the incident who knew what actually happened. It doesn't bother me at all if you don't know or don't want to answer.

Why are you 'interested' if it 'doesn't bother you at all'?

Having witnessed the incident I was just interested in what caused it and what actually happened. It is interesting that nobody is willing to deny that KR fans were fighting amongst themselves! I was prepared to give you the opportunity to paint a different picture but clearly you can't.

So, you are bothered. What was the Leeds' fans account following your enquiries with them? You have made enquiries I presume?

Well you are clearly not interested in denying it. I will take that as confirmation of what I saw.

Everyone's happy then. You going now? (Don't bother telling us what the Leeds fans said).

So you are happy that your fans were fighting amongst themselves and I am happy that I have had my question answered. Bye!

Didn't see what happened with Leeds fans so can't comment.

You are a bellend.

Our fears of not having a pack are coming home to roost now, as has been said even with Walker, Allgood and Tilse in I'm not sure its a dominant pack. We lack any real impact and grunt in the pack and this needs to be a major area looked at in the off season.

I said from the off that there was such a mismatch in terms of size on the wing with Ollet, Sio (never a centre and should never play there for me) and Dixon defending against Minicello, Yeaman and Talanoa. If Goulding (or Salter) and Horne play then it stiffens that edge up no end. Not sure what other options we had but it was doomed down there as long as Hull were smart enough to go to it and they did.

Watched it back and there was still a bit of spirit shown by our lads but it was never going to be good enough on the day.

Enjoyed the place though. Far better than Manchester and Edinburgh and nearer than Cardiff so should be the go to place next year.

Absolutely, nice and accessible and lots to do away from the rugby, and what a great stadium.

Agree with that, Dixon/Talanoa was a miss match but very little we could do except play Dixon at fullback & maybe Salter on the wing, Our only hope would have been out & out attack & repeat sets but for that to happen FC would have to make a shed load of mistakes but they had a great day. Just have to dust down & get set for Friday.

I saw the fight it was bloodbath involving about 500 people 3 fatalities up to now it reminded me of the troubles in Northern Ireland around the marching season I'm surprised it's not been on the news

I know it's easy to sometimes over simplify things, but I couldn't help to think big basics were the differences between the sides

Hull's forwards were running on to the ball, resulting in winning the ruck/play of the ball and then repeat. No messing, just bang, bang and go again. The platform was set.
Line speed - far superior to ours - they were on us before we knew what we were going to do. We had (have) no idea how to exit our own 20 if it doesn't involve outflanking the opposition. Hull and Leeds have shown us in recent weeks how to do this. I know we're down on grunt, but we simply don't do enough down the middle to build a platform, whoever is playing.
If Hull weren't scoring, a good kicking game just finished us. It was pretty obvious to see, that breaks/scraps/piggybacks aside, we were struggling to go anywhere too often.
Naturally as Hull's dominance grew throughout the game, every simple facet was extenuated further.

A lot has been made of our front row woes, but right across the park we were trampled by Hull. We failed to drop or contain any of their props. Ellis/Minichiello ran over us. Leaving so much time for Pryce/Sneyd/Houghton to dictate matters. There was no quick fix within our ranks to our problems on Sat, and unfortunately Hull's handling early on was pretty good. Whilst our early errors compounded our struggles. Credit to our lads for sticking with it, but we were comprehensively battered really. Fair play to Hull, they were excellent. The scoreline didn't at all flatter them.

Top 8 is starting to drift a bit and our negative points difference is also starting to mount. Cas on Friday is looking like a must win game, if we're looking upwards and not down.

Agree with above posts. But in fairness you where you where missing our front row. Would it have made a difference a bit yes IMO but not the result. I did notice when both teams where stood waiting to come out we looked massive compared to you guys. Allin all a gud win for us but think you will come back and be in the mix for top 8 but only if you can get your big guys back

Few spelling mistakes sorry

Agreed
Even at full strength our pack simply isn't big enough.
We need a pair of big bustling back rowers who can step up to front row if needed.
This may be an unpopular opinion but Horne and larroyer should be fringe/ interchange at best.

I don't think our props are the problem, IMO it's the backrow that's too small and weak. Larroyer doesn't run hard, Cox just doesn't get the game time, Ollets to small,

We were dominated and out played which nobody could disagree with and i know the club don't like to use the injury excuse but if you put down our injuries and FCs like for like
Allgood = watts
Walker = paea
tilse = green
lunt = Houghton
Kelly = sneyd
Burke = feka
goulding/Salter = sa

So if hull had watts paea green houghton sneyd feka and sa missing Vs our strongest 17 i think we would of had a bigger field day