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| I think Green's shoulder charge was more of a careless late bump rather than an all out late malicious hit. Given the size differential between the two, in some ways it was inevitable there would be secondary contact to the head. Outcome, 1 match EGP ban for Green, and Burns is still a dick.
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| Quote ="meatpaste"Irrelvant. Still did the deed.'"
You're right, thanks for providing the comparison.
So what we've established is that one player (who didn't openly state his dislike for his "victim"icon_wink.gif gets the equivalent of five matches for a high tackle.
Then another gets one match for a high tackle that leaves a player's face fractured in several places and apparently has the class to claim he didn't like his victim anyway.
Good stuff.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"You're right, thanks for providing the comparison.
So what we've established is that one player (who didn't openly state his dislike for his "victim"icon_wink.gif gets the equivalent of five matches for a high tackle.
Then another gets one match for a high tackle that leaves a player's face fractured in several places and apparently has the class to claim he didn't like his victim anyway.
Good stuff.'"
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| Quote ="roader"Judging by the damage your players have inflicted on Burns it's obvious they targeted his head. Disgusting tactics.'"
Wonder why travis got a huge ban in australia was it 17 matches,and hasnt he just served a ban for a head high tackle on justin carney ? Get those blinkers off.
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| James Green is a lucky boy to get away with such a light sentence for this. RFL sentencing guidelines are allowed to take into account any injury sustained and I suspect his EGP may have prevented the panel from going outside (i.e. a longer ban) the suggested sanction for a Grade B.
Taking away who the victim was, and the fact it was one of our own, there would have been a much higher level of condemnation on here for this. The only thing in James' favour is his previous good record. I can only recall 1 previous ban (lifting knee in tackle at Bradford in one of his very early games). I hope he kicks on to become an international standard prop (the potential is there, as good as Walmsley IMO), but I don't want a thug in the side.
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| Quote ="deslawson"Wonder why travis got a huge ban in australia was it 17 matches,and hasnt he just served a ban for a head high tackle on justin carney ? Get those blinkers off.'"
What relevance has that got?
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| Green did a late shoulder charge on travis,2 matches reduced to one because of his EGP,his 1st offence,travis's record suggest he is no angel,the longest ban in aussie history and you say you dont want a thug in your side.Did you complain the last 2 seasons when he played for us ?
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| Quote ="hull2524"saying that if green was a leeds wigan saints player nowt would happen, hope its a good match thurs and looking forward to the one and only derby'"
oh like Joel Moon last season who got sent off...
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| Quote ="deslawson"Green did a late shoulder charge on travis,2 matches reduced to one because of his EGP,his 1st offence,travis's record suggest he is no angel,the longest ban in aussie history and you say you dont want a thug in your side.Did you complain the last 2 seasons when he played for us ?'"
1. Are you absolutely certain that Burn's ban was the longest in Aussie history, or are you winging it again?
2. Burns was a hard, physical player for Rovers, I don't recall him causing anyone a significant injury in his time here. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
3. As per my previous comment, what relevance has Burn's past record, or indeed his perceived personal traits go to do with Green's ban?
As for not wanting a thug in the side, I don't, and more specifically, I don't want Green to develop into one. Strong, hard runner, yes, but not a forward who takes out half backs, the props union would not approve. Note, this also applies to Allgood, but his reputation followed him half way round to globe and cost him a 2nd match.
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| Green made a late shoulder charge on burns,at the time if you were there it didnt look to bad,after watching it on telly it looked far worse.He probably should have got sent off,but it is one isolated incident in a young career,of course we dont when him or any rovers player to be a thug,but it seems he took plenty of stick off burns and probably saw the chance to even the score.Burns was one of my favourite players in oz and here,but is not exactly an angel.You say he didnt cause anybody any major injury while at rovers,not sure on that,but if you tackle high you will injure people.
Larroyer didnt get a broken cheek bone at warrington having a half time cup of tea,but I dont recall anyone pulled up about it.Green deserved his ban and thats it,as regards burns being the longest ban in aussie history for on the field offences,if it wasn't iam sure you will tell us what was.Possibly john hopoate ?
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| Triple fracture of the cheekbone , Burns out for several months.
Green gets one match.
That's a disgrace.
Cheap dog shots from east Hull.
No surprise really.
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| Quote ="Gerry Mander"Triple fracture of the cheekbone , Burns out for several months.
Green gets one match.
That's a disgrace.
Cheap dog shots from east Hull.
No surprise really.'"
Why is it "no surprise"?
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| Don't trip over that lip on your way out.
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| Green has been lucky. But I doubt very much he set out to intentionally cause this injury to Burns, throughout Green's entire Rovers career his biggest criticism has been his lack of aggression for a lad of his size. I think he meant to hurt him, but when you play RL every single hit you put on an opponent you want to hurt them, it's a contact sport. I'm not condoning it, it was wrong and he should have walked. The fact he's got one game is just the way the disciplinary is set up.
I'm not a fan of Burns and I wasn't particularly a fan of him when he was here, but I do wish him a speedy recovery.
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| Green was lucky with a grade B.
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| Quote ="SirStan"1. Are you absolutely certain that Burn's ban was the longest in Aussie history, or are you winging it again?
2. Burns was a hard, physical player for Rovers, I don't recall him causing anyone a significant injury in his time here. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
3. As per my previous comment, what relevance has Burn's past record, or indeed his perceived personal traits go to do with Green's ban?
As for not wanting a thug in the side, I don't, and more specifically, I don't want Green to develop into one. Strong, hard runner, yes, but not a forward who takes out half backs, the props union would not approve. Note, this also applies to Allgood, but his reputation followed him half way round to globe and cost him a 2nd match.'"
I seem to remember him putting Blake Green out for a few months with a late cheap shot not long after coming to Rovers.
As a rule he seemed to injure himself rather than the opposition when he tried to do it for us, such as at the KC, when he did his arm/shoulder.
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| To me it looked far worse then it was, tall guy on small guy, unfortunately bully boy burns come off worse!!!! Some say it was a cheap shot!!! I think he wanted to make a point and put a marker on him, yes hurt but not in the way it happened. Also if any of you never saw the cheap shots burns did while playing for us!!!!! Well one word Specsavers!!!
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| Not enough exclamation marks in that post. Can't take it seriously.
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| Quote ="SirStan"1. Are you absolutely certain that Burn's ban was the longest in Aussie history, or are you winging it again?
2. Burns was a hard, physical player for Rovers, I don't recall him causing anyone a significant injury in his time here. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
3. As per my previous comment, what relevance has Burn's past record, or indeed his perceived personal traits go to do with Green's ban?
As for not wanting a thug in the side, I don't, and more specifically, I don't want Green to develop into one. Strong, hard runner, yes, but not a forward who takes out half backs, the props union would not approve. Note, this also applies to Allgood, but his reputation followed him half way round to globe and cost him a 2nd match.'"
It seems several fans think burns was a thug stan,fancy that.As I said earlier every time you cheap shot somebody you don't always injure them,but the intent is there.
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| You're point is?
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| Probably the only personal achievement Green will make in his career. Dog standard average player.
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| Quote ="LFC Saint"Probably the only personal achievement Green will make in his career. Dog standard average player.'"
He's that average that it took the final hooter to remind him to take your front row out of his pocket, I bet the bunnies haven't got over the mauling your world beaters gave them.
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| Quote ="LFC Saint"Probably the only personal achievement Green will make in his career. Dog standard average player.'"
Still smarting?
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| Quote ="phil webbo"He's that average that it took the final hooter to remind him to take your front row out of his pocket, I bet the bunnies haven't got over the mauling your world beaters gave them.'"
I can understand it to some extent from Wigan or Leeds, but a Hull KR fan mocking another teams performance in a World Club game?...I won't even bother.
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| Quote ="roversmad"Still smarting?'"
I wouldn't get too excited... you beat Saints at least once a year, but where does it get you?
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