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| Underwhelming news. I'm not buying this hype after winning a few games. Sandys a lot to do this season to get me on board.
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| He's doing what he is known for developing youth. Salter, Cox, green have shown that. adam walker (i no walker was from hudds) but has shown some real quality since he's been with us. That must be down to sandy?
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| Quote ="red_MOT"He's doing what he is known for developing youth. Salter, Cox, green have shown that. adam walker (i no walker was from hudds) but has shown some real quality since he's been with us. That must be down to sandy?'"
Done a cracking job developing Eden!
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| Fair comment but is 1 negative out of 4 or 5 positive players bad in your eyes then?
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| Quote ="red_MOT"Fair comment but is 1 negative out of 4 or 5 positive players bad in your eyes then?'"
No but then I dont credit all development of players down to him. What I do know is we won 4 games in a row last year, leading to a new contract. After 7th July we then proceeded to win 1 game until March.
I would have left his contract in the safe until the end of the season before either offering him an extension, or burning the bugger. He's overseen us treading water for 2 1/2 years IMO.
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| Quote ="SirStan"Go on t'other forum and tell me most people are underwhelmed. I'm amazed how a couple of wins against sides we should be beating have everyone falling over themselves. Its like Groundhog Day.'"
stopped going on there a lonv while ago, too sycophantic, all negatives are jumped.
Sandercock is a good coach if we have ambitions of being placed 8-10. Anything more and we need better.
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| Who is it down too then? But I do agree with holding back with the contract but this is his team now so time will tell and even with players out injured I think we are going well
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| Even pro-Sandercock Rovers fans must question a 3 year deal though? WTF?
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| Quote ="red_MOT"Who is it down too then? '"
Some (not all) are just capable of improving themselves. Josh Hodgson for example would have improved at his age under just about any SL coach. Again, my opinion.
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| Quote ="SirStan"Even pro-Sandercock Rovers fans must question a 3 year deal though? WTF?'"
I would like him to get a deal but it should be a one year rolling contract keeps him on his toes
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| I think Josh has progressed more under sandy then Morgan
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| Quote ="red_MOT"I think Josh has progressed more under sandy then Morgan'"
Hardly a shock given his age & experience under both coaches.
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| Easier to sign players when a coach has a longer term deal.
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"I would like him to get a deal but it should be a one year rolling contract keeps him on his toes'"
In the mail it says a 1 yr deal but to me I would have still waited till at least July maybe he is better then we thought but I don't think so
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| I hope this isn't true. What has he done to justify it? Wins at home to 2 of the bottom 3, a home derby win and an away win against an indifferent thus far Warrington. We gave him a new deal after winning 4 in a row last year, and fizzled out completely as we all know. Surely the board don't have that short a memory?! We have a run of 4 winnable games coming up, if he signs a new deal and we lose them all where does that leave us? To me it has to be left until the end of the season, he still has a lot to do to prove hes able to make us anything but an 8-10th place team
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| For me a good move but would have wanted a longer deal. whoever the coach is a club like ours needs stability 1 year/3 years is not stability. I have only one slight doubt about Sandercock & that is that he doesn't know the grass roots game in this country & he is quick to go down under for players, but the longer he stays the better our youth policy should get, the more stable the squad becomes & that is when we will start to challenge the big boys for trophy's.
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| Quote ="HKR Smithy"I hope this isn't true. What has he done to justify it? Wins at home to 2 of the bottom 3, a home derby win and an away win against an indifferent thus far Warrington. We gave him a new deal after winning 4 in a row last year, and fizzled out completely as we all know. Surely the board don't have that short a memory?! We have a run of 4 winnable games coming up, if he signs a new deal and we lose them all where does that leave us? To me it has to be left until the end of the season, he still has a lot to do to prove hes able to make us anything but an 8-10th place team'"
Turning your comment around what hasn't he done deserve one? We've lost against Saints(A),Wigan(A), Leeds(H), Castleford(H) and Catalans(A) in the league. Now prior to the season starting how many of those games would you have realistically expected to win. ERM the Castleford game only probably, In the matches we lost we've played some good halves of rugby in every games except Castleford. Teams will always have off days and for me Castleford was ours but whilst looking at how they are playing and the fact we went into that game missing Poore, Weyman & Langley showed we lacked some punch.
Add that Sandercock's role isn't purely the 1st team he actually has an active role in the youth sides of which both are performing VERY well this year with the U16's side been unbeaten so far this year.
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| Quote ="Easty"Turning your comment around what hasn't he done deserve one? We've lost against Saints(A),Wigan(A), Leeds(H), Castleford(H) and Catalans(A) in the league. Now prior to the season starting how many of those games would you have realistically expected to win. ERM the Castleford game only probably, In the matches we lost we've played some good halves of rugby in every games except Castleford. Teams will always have off days and for me Castleford was ours but whilst looking at how they are playing and the fact we went into that game missing Poore, Weyman & Langley showed we lacked some punch.
Add that Sandercock's role isn't purely the 1st team he actually has an active role in the youth sides of which both are performing VERY well this year with the U16's side been unbeaten so far this year.'"
Perhaps the club should inform fans that they are only looking to win one out of every five games , or do not expect to have much chance against decent teams before said fans splash out several hundred pounds having been given expectations of challenging for the top 5 and having aspirations of a decent team.
I am sure the end of season table will tell its usual story of bottom half pluckiness...mixed with some downright awfulness with the odd decent performance...
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| Easty, are you his agent?
Look at the impact Powell has had at Cas, with less resource than Sandercock has at his disposal. Even Betts is doing a better job. If we avoid our now annual July to September belly flop then fair enough, but so far its looking identical to 2013.
Had Whiting landed his last conversion the mood would have been significantly darker.
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| Quote ="SirStan"Easty, are you his agent?
Look at the impact Powell has had at Cas, with less resource than Sandercock has at his disposal. Even Betts is doing a better job. If we avoid our now annual July to September belly flop then fair enough, but so far its looking identical to 2013.
Had Whiting landed his last conversion the mood would have been significantly darker.'"
Seem to remember us missing conversions in that match also Stan. We where comfortably the better side and in fairness did we ever really look like losing that match?
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| We could well have lost it if the final conversion was 2 ft to the right. However, that's not really my point. We have been here before 12 months ago and I want to see far more evidence of improvement before tying the club to a coach who has yet to prove he's up to the job. Why the rush?
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| Quote ="Easty"Turning your comment around what hasn't he done deserve one? We've lost against Saints(A),Wigan(A), Leeds(H), Castleford(H) and Catalans(A) in the league. Now prior to the season starting how many of those games would you have realistically expected to win. ERM the Castleford game only probably, In the matches we lost we've played some good halves of rugby in every games except Castleford. Teams will always have off days and for me Castleford was ours but whilst looking at how they are playing and the fact we went into that game missing Poore, Weyman & Langley showed we lacked some punch.
Add that Sandercock's role isn't purely the 1st team he actually has an active role in the youth sides of which both are performing VERY well this year with the U16's side been unbeaten so far this year.'"
So you're happy to not win any games against the better teams, just beat the teams below us and maintain our status as a mid table team? I want to see us beat the better teams more often rather than rarely in order to challenge for a top 6 finish. Surely that has to be our aim, to progress? If we want to keep finishing 8th CS is the right man no doubt. But after finishing 10th, 8th, and currently in 9th forgive me for questioning the timing of this if true.
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| Quote ="SirStan"Why the rush?'"
Hudge has learned from the way the Mickey Paea deal went down.
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| Quote ="HKR Smithy"So you're happy to not win any games against the better teams, just beat the teams below us and maintain our status as a mid table team? I want to see us beat the better teams more often rather than rarely in order to challenge for a top 6 finish. Surely that has to be our aim, to progress? If we want to keep finishing 8th CS is the right man no doubt. But after finishing 10th, 8th, and currently in 9th forgive me for questioning the timing of this if true.'"
No ofc I'm not happy but on the other hand we don't have a god given right to go out and beat any side. I want gradual improvement. We won't get instant success because as a club we don't have the money for that but what I can see is gradual improvement in all areas of the club. I'm sure this new deal for Craig isn't based purely on results because if it where it would be touch and go. It will be gauged on improvement in all areas of the football side of the club. With this in mind I believe a three year deal would be in the best interest of Craig and the club.
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| But not the paying customers
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