Having seen the tries on Super League show. if they were giving 100% God help us if they can't be d sometime.

Hull are as bad away from home but obviously more consistent at home

IMO you can definitely sense a serious lack of effort and committment in many games under Sandercock. This no doubt will be controversial, but in my opinion it seems to happen more with our overseas players than homegrown (Mika and Paea for a start both want sacking). Years ago when it was 11 or 12 Hull-born lads in the team you very rarely saw less than 100%, but a lot of current players play like they just don't give a s**t.
I think the point about guaranteed pay was an excellent one put it that way.

Paea has good spells roofs but agree about mika he doesn't look interested after ten minutes which is a shame cos he cud be big for kr, were missing newts and Vella and galea they pulled the rovers shirt on and the passion was there for all to see, sadly I'm not seeing that this season from a lot of the players.

I think calling Paea is a bit much him and Lovegrove are the only forwards we have who consistently give us go forward. Mika needs spelling he clearly isn't fit enough to play 80 mins the way he plays the game if we had another decent back rower we would of got the best out of Mika which makes the decision to get rid of Galea look more foolish as he was another who needed spelling towards the end of his time with us. We are so short in the pack it would be nice to bring Cox, Green and Walker on in time but due to O'Hara's injury and the lack of depth in the squad we expect them to be brilliant now when truth be told it could take 3 or 4 years to get any real consistency out of any of them. We keep being told we have a lack of depth in our squad yet we have 30 professionals and most clubs have between 25 an 27? Sadly Sandy inherited players such as Latus and Beaumont on contracts and it's obvious he doesn't rate them(even though hopefully RB will prove him wrong on sunday) I think we can't accuse players of not giving 100% as that's ridiculous we just have to realise that we are massively in transition and so many of the players are works in progress(Eden, Caro, Brown, Salter, Carille, Cox, Walker, Green, Mika and Griffin to name a few) and if half of them become good players and stay at the club then Sandy has done a decent job with the resources he has been given which are well under what JM was given.

It's all too easy to blame a perceived lack of intensity on a lack of homegrown players but IMO it's irrelevant.
What would make Kris Welham, a Hull fan as a lad, want to give more than an Aussie?
It's a job at the end of it all, they get paid to play well and I've never yet met a sportsman who doesn't want to win every time he takes the field.
Questioning desire and effort is wrong IMO. Intelligence and concentration however...

Never met Joel Clinton then

Maybe his heart wasnt in it but that's a different thing entirely to going out on the field and not giving 100%.
There is not one player who would go out and deliberately play poorly or worse than they know they could. To even accuse players of doing so is naïve IMO.

Definitely gave 100% tonight or we would not have hung on to beat Cas in an error strewn performance.

Both sides poor tonight however the weather didn't help

Eden needs some time off, he is a liability at the moment

I just think he needs to do sum one to one with sandercock he just has lapses hel have a stormer on Friday

Eden gets a lot of unfair criticism IMO. Just his errors seem to stand out more then others, like the spiral bomb he didn't take and led to a try, but very good under the umpteen others that went up. He gets criticised for running across the line but rangi chase does this exact same thing and the reason for this is because they're looking for openings and gaps. Did ok in harsh conditions tonight.

I agree but rovers really need to up they're game on Friday FC are prob worse than us at the minute but we can't take that for granted

Generally perhaps, but he was poor tonight. Everybody has the odd off day, but we have a few who have them too regularly. Got away with it tonight, but it was closer than it should have been due mainly to errors and he was most culpable in that regard.

I agree he was poor tonight, but what really annoys me is how people go on about him carrying the ball in one hand! If people watch the game then they would see every player carries it in one hand, he just carries it further away from his body.

Our right edge tonight was a bit poor think salter will be back in for the derby hope Craig hall is ok looked like a knee problem, travis burns apart from his attempts at goal kicking (wind or not was er lets leave it at that lol) needs to give them duties to Patterson or hally, can see us beating FC but that's it over the Easter break

Hall should be dropped for salter, very poor defensively in a crucial position.

I think hall got injured at the end not serious i hope salter is better defensively tho

Couldn't disagree more about dropping Eden. He's a confidence player so dropping him will do no good at all. Apart from that, who would play at full back?
He was exposed to some horrible kicks tonight because of the swirling wind. Lets not scapegoat players at all never mind when we win.

I just think hall made Webster look world class tonight, don't think salter would have. I heard of someone that Gleeson is back in full training.

Really that wud be another option but I really like salter at centre hope he plays fri Webbo had a decent game till he went of injured caused us sum problems down that side

I agree think with the horrendous weather it was just one of them nights and wel see a different Eden in the warm weather

he should be dropped he costs us a couple of tries every game couldnt give a toss if it effects his confidence i wish people would stop making excuses for him if a player is playing badly he should be dropped end of

He's more often then not involved in every try we score to