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| Quote ="Mild Rover"There's going to be little out there, so starting with retention. I wanted to do a 4 dimensional matrix for position, ability, attitude and quotas status but RLfans and normal Euclidean space are rubbish.
So club-trained qualified (because protectionism is the path to greater competivity, no really):
For the sake of squad depth, we need to keep at least 2 of these, IMO.
Murrell - the best cover we have or are likely to get for Green and Dobson and offers an option at 13. Enthusiastic, versatile... slow, but nobody is perfect. You know exactly what you're getting with him. I'd be happy to see him given 3 years which'd get him his testimonial, I think.
Watts - In the ETS last year, loads of ability. On the other hand, when Willie Mason calls someone a larrikin it makes you nervous. Hope and fear in equal measure, for me. Probably got to gamble - the staff who work with him will know how far. Probably the biggest and hardest call.
Lovegrove - Versatile, coming into his prime, started the season well. Keep.
Fed-trained -
Hall - I think we could do with another back in the squad, so certainly wouldn't be looking to lose a talented, if slightly flaky, fed-trained one. Unless a couple of young players kick on to a surprising extent, I'd be surprised if we didn't try to extend his deal.
Wheeldon - Under-rated IMO. But we do have a hypersufficiency of props, and he's ooc. Because Hull look to be short of props and (maybe) experienced club-trained players for 2013, he'd be a decent signing for them. If they look elsewhere (perhaps at Watts), and/or Clinton leaves and isn't replaced like-for-like, then he could stay. Otherwise, probably not, unless he finds another gear.
I'll do the non-fed and quota later.'"
C'mon über mod, your post is scruffy and was a perfect time to adopt DD's favourite list format(s).
I've gone with the tried and tested bulleted format
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From the list of ooc players you provided.
[* =#FF0000McDonnell - He's improving, but a 1yr deal, suggests we're open to other options next season[/*:m
[* =#FF0000Hall - new deal, no brainer[/*:m
[* =#FF0000Webster, in terms of the quota – you’re right, we may as well offer him a new deal – reduced terms, if he’s on particularly high wage. [/*:m
[* =#FF0000Wheeldon - I’d like to see us keep him, he’s often been on the fringes and apparently surplus for a while. He’s chose to stay here, I like that loyalty. He doesn’t let us down.[/*:m
[* =#FF0000Clinton – Suppose it depends on if he wants to stay or not, but you’d imagine he’s returning home. So [/*:m
[* =#FF0000Watts – hasn’t been on top form, but he’s young and obviously highly rated. Keep if possible[/*:m
[* =#FF0000Murrell – unless we could find another larker who fits in like he does, then it’s another no brainer, keep.[/*:m
[* =#FF0000Lovegrove – keep. [/*:m
[* =#FF0000Galea – If he’s got another season in him then, keep. If not then let’s put a nice contract Manu’s way.
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We need to look at other back-up wing options. Latus isn't the answer.
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| Good work that ES, Like the circle. What else is there?
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| McDonnell improving, must have missed that one, looks a very average signing ATM.
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| Quote ="dum-dum"Good work that ES, Like the circle. What else is there?
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Yeh, I can't believe triangle doesn't work
I wanted pics to work, but no avail. Just squares/circles/bullets and the numbered stuff
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| Quote ="barham red"McDonnell improving, must have missed that one, looks a very average signing ATM.'"
Based on early season games, yes he's had solid-ish games vs Widnes(I know) and Bradford. Hell, he even made a tackle vs Bradford. So from fumbling and given away needless goal line drop outs and not making any tackles - he's improving.
Let's see where he's at in a few months.
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| Quote ="☺East-Sard☺"Yeh, I can't believe triangle doesn't work
I wanted pics to work, but no avail. Just squares/circles/bullets and the numbered stuff'"
I really hoped star would work.
I like Shannon, he's the complete opposite of Brisc.
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| Quote ="☺East-Sard☺"Yeh, I can't believe triangle doesn't work
I wanted pics to work, but no avail. Just squares/circles/bullets and the numbered stuff'"
You may be right in your assesment of him and his overall form to date but i believe he he will improve a great deal on harder grounds, and to be fair he has been left a little exposed at times in recent games.
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| Quote ="Seventies red"You may be right in your assesment of him and his overall form to date but i believe he he will improve a great deal on harder grounds, and to be fair he has been left a little exposed at times in recent games.'"
Assuming we're still talking Shannon and not BB lists functions - yeh, I hope you're right. Time will tell. Some have written him off already.
As Dumz says - We've gone from somone who stopped tries as opposed to someone who can score tries.
Let's hope Shannon scores plenty
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| Your youth seems to be the key atm, you have some good young forwards. Need to concentrate on the backs IMO.
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| Quote ="hull smallears"Your youth seems to be the key atm, you have some good young forwards. Need to concentrate on the backs IMO.'"
you're not wrong there but it's not all the backs, we seem to produce centres we've got salter and heil coming through who look very promising, struggle for wingers though and half backs like everbody else!
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| Quote ="sandy"you're not wrong there but it's not all the backs, we seem to produce centres we've got salter and heil coming through who look very promising, struggle for wingers though and half backs like everbody else!'"
Indeed. you have your half backs pretty sorted though.
I am so pleased with the Ellis signing, but I cannot help thinking we had other positions to sort before that. See what happens I suppose.
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| Quote ="hull smallears"Indeed. you have your half backs pretty sorted though.
I am so pleased with the Ellis signing, but I cannot help thinking we had other positions to sort before that. See what happens I suppose.'"
yes, what I meant was we struggle to develop our own halfbacks pretty much like a lot of clubs, we haven't had a local one go on to be a regular since wayne parker imho
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| Quote ="☺East-Sard☺"C'mon über mod, your post is scruffy and was a perfect time to adopt DD's favourite list format(s).
I've gone with the tried and tested bulleted format
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From the list of ooc players you provided.
[* =#FF0000McDonnell - He's improving, but a 1yr deal, suggests we're open to other options next season[/*:m
[* =#FF0000Hall - new deal, no brainer[/*:m
[* =#FF0000Webster, in terms of the quota – you’re right, we may as well offer him a new deal – reduced terms, if he’s on particularly high wage. [/*:m
[* =#FF0000Wheeldon - I’d like to see us keep him, he’s often been on the fringes and apparently surplus for a while. He’s chose to stay here, I like that loyalty. He doesn’t let us down.[/*:m
[* =#FF0000Clinton – Suppose it depends on if he wants to stay or not, but you’d imagine he’s returning home. So [/*:m
[* =#FF0000Watts – hasn’t been on top form, but he’s young and obviously highly rated. Keep if possible[/*:m
[* =#FF0000Murrell – unless we could find another larker who fits in like he does, then it’s another no brainer, keep.[/*:m
[* =#FF0000Lovegrove – keep. [/*:m
[* =#FF0000Galea – If he’s got another season in him then, keep. If not then let’s put a nice contract Manu’s way.
[/*:m[/list:u
We need to look at other back-up wing options. Latus isn't the answer.'"
Its far too early to think 2013, much prefer to wait and see how the squad fares when we get everyone fit and healthy and a few games under their belts.
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| Quote ="Paul T - HKR"=#FF0000Its far too early to think 2013, much prefer to wait and see how the squad fares when we get everyone fit and healthy and a few games under their belts.'"
None the less, I bet the club/management will be looking at it with an open mind to next season.
... and it's never too early for us fans to talk frep about team affairs.
Pugwash will soon be telling us who we're signing in 2014, never mind 2013.
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| Quote ="☺East-Sard☺"C'mon über mod, your post is scruffy and was a perfect time to adopt DD's favourite list format(s).
I've gone with the tried and tested bulleted format
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From the list of ooc players you provided.
[* =#FF0000[uMcDonnell[/u - He's improving, but a 1yr deal, suggests we're open to other options next season[/*:m
[* =#FF0000Hall - new deal, no brainer[/*:m
[* =#FF0000Webster, in terms of the quota – you’re right, we may as well offer him a new deal – reduced terms, if he’s on particularly high wage. [/*:m
[* =#FF0000Wheeldon - I’d like to see us keep him, he’s often been on the fringes and apparently surplus for a while. He’s chose to stay here, I like that loyalty. He doesn’t let us down.[/*:m
[* =#FF0000Clinton – Suppose it depends on if he wants to stay or not, but you’d imagine he’s returning home. So [/*:m
[* =#FF0000Watts – hasn’t been on top form, but he’s young and obviously highly rated. Keep if possible[/*:m
[* =#FF0000Murrell – unless we could find another larker who fits in like he does, then it’s another no brainer, keep.[/*:m
[* =#FF0000Lovegrove – keep. [/*:m
[* =#FF0000Galea – If he’s got another season in him then, keep. If not then let’s put a nice contract Manu’s way.
[/*:m[/list:u
We need to look at other back-up wing options. Latus isn't the answer.'"
If i remember correctly, McDonnell was innitialy offered a longer contract but refused it on the basis that he wanted to see how his first season turned out before commiting further.
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