Kolpak/Cotonou gets you off overseas quota, but the whole point of non-fed is to (effectively) close that loophole. So we need to add Taulapapa to the first list. If Paea signs too, then the list is full, with no room for MacDonnell.

This is about overseas quotas. I'm on topic, you're not. Like a moth to a flame, I'm irresistible to you. But I know how fickle you are. First David Kidwell, then Kevin Moore, now Craig Sandercock. Each one justified as your ideal choice then cast aside as a new favourite emerged. Fickle, fickle, fickle.



In response to your question, Mike Smith (who you are on record as saying "is possibly the best communicator Rovers have ever had"icon_wink.gif has already said it has to be 4th place (at worst), so obviously you will finish above us, as I couldn't see us finishing above Wigan, Warrington, Saints and you, nor Leeds, nor Huddersfield.

Allow me to get the thread back on track after your petty but obsessive derailment. A possible 14 out of 25 overseas players. Would that be the most Rovers have had since promotion? Good work if so.

I think you're wrong mate re the 2 lists being totally separate. I'm sure there's a total of 10 non-fed players with 5 of them allowed to be full quota players.

I'm certain we'll see Paea and Macdonnell sign.

So we stand at

=red:2p7dm9liNON-FED(Dispensation/Kolpak):2p7dm9li
(1) Blake Green
(2) Joel Clinton
(3) Michael Dobson
(4) Misi Taulapapa
(5)

=red:2p7dm9liOVERSEAS QUOTA PLAYERS

No room for Paea & Mcdonnell and the rumour is that Paea will be announced tomorrow. I would have to guess at Joel Clinton being outbound. Personally if possible I'd scratch the Taulapapa signing and pay the kid off.

Nope one player can 100% appear on both the quota & non fed list

Now that 'top 8 is not seen as a barometer of success at Hull FC', in the recent 'Brilliant statement of intent' from Mr Pearson, surely not? Ahh, just like the old days

- but that is enough of that type of nostalgia.
14 isn't realistically possible. Still wouldn't beat 2007 (nostalgia, but nice)...
Dyer, Bauer, Ford, Lovegrove, Lennon, Weisner, Smith, Webster, Fisher, Gene, Aizue, Tangata-Toa, Gannon, Tandy, O'Neill, Vella... 16, off the top of my head, though not all simultaneous.

Do we think that Mickey Paea cant be announced until Joel Clinton finds a new club then?

Possibly, but as Easty says, it'll mean Clinton leaving (or a big surprise). Going back to RBA's OP, unless the rules have changed, that'd be it. And Smith's words being interpreted as 'we're still looking overseas on top of all that' doesn't make sense.

We have a spot left to announce Paea or Mcdonnell

I love Adam Pearson, but he's not got the gravitas and credibility of Mike Smith, that would just be stretching things too far. 7th could be successful for both to be right. Disappointing you're so far short of 2007 standards. Norsk gods are the future.

What is a travisty is that FC have booted out a young British coach for an Aussie. Shame on you.

Thought you were on your jollybobs?

I keep getting drawn back to the fact that the consensus on here is that we will be up to the limit if we announce Paea or Mcdonnell (if Clinton stays), yet yesterday we had Mike Smith saying that we had 2 overseas players CV's arrive at the club, our new coach said that he would be discussing overseas targets when he arrives next week, plus we obviously have been talking to Adam Cuthburtson aswell if his agent is to be believed.
Either the club know something we dont regards some players not counting or Paea isnt the cert that we thought, and perhaps Clinton is going no matter what.
My biggest concern is that Mike Smith will have spent as much time in a confused state over this as i have today when he has a new stand to get built.

Kidwell was who I wanted originally because of his schooling under Craig Bellamy but at that time I had no idea who Sandercock was - let alone his credentials. As far as me "justifying Kevin Moore as my ideal choice", that's simply another one of your lies (you're welcome to post my quote in full and I'll again expose you for the indignant liar that you are). Even though I'm absolutely buzzing that Sandercock has got the job, both Kidwell and Moore would have still been good appointments I reckon - certainly better options than a coach like Gentle recruited by a DOR with more wooden spoons than Delia Smith and as many bottom 4 finishes as your tin-pot club



FC will be stronger having got rid of Agar and when Pearson took over and Rovers without the "Morgan factor" I genuinely feared our dominance over your deluded club may be over but IMO Pearson has displayed his ignorance of RL and dropped a major clanger appointing a DOR who in recent times as a coach, has an appalling record in both in the NRL and the SL.

You may say Mcrea is only DOR but all the facts point to him being RL's "yesterday's man" backed up by the fact Matt Parish has slated the structures Mcrea set in place at Salford. In turn he's recruited a coach seemingly on the grounds that he shares the same agent; a coach with questionable credentials detailed and backed up in "Hull Neutral's" knowledgeable post on Gentle.


Anything that keeps FC in their correct place; i.e. below us gets my vote petal..

Adam Pearson appoints has appointed a failed coach as DOR to oversee RL matters at FC.

Mike Smith has been part of a thorough process of selecting a bright young coach with promising refences and credentials.

You try to be clever on here every off-season.

I own you every off-season.

The best way now.

When players like Phelps and Heremaia can get off either list it's time to give up.

The fact of the matter is, Zoddy, that in less than a month you've been bigging up anyone linked with the Rovers job. You're a club apologist, simple as. Nowt wrong with that. Embrace the truth for what it is. You can posture about Rovers excellence all day long, but it only exists in your head. Celebrating supremacy over the woeful FC serves only as a tragic reminder that your previous boasts of, and I quote "seeing on a regular basis what a top 3 team is" was so premature and short-lived that your only currency now is at being slightly less bad than the league's chronic underachievers. Still, if it soothes you, pray continue. We're loving it, loving it, loving it.


Your ideal choice, then. You posted a detailed list, having "had a good read" on the internet, of 7 key reasons why you were "warming more and more to the appointment. This is justifying Rovers (at that point) most likely candidate. Indignant is not really the right adjective here. Just a bit of coaching in semantics. I know. We can't move on either board for your excited and detailed justifications of him as an ideal candidate. I thought that might have been you on Sportstalk this week as it's hard to find 2 people quite so excited about Sandercock, but then I remembered the dozy twonk had been on before a couple of years ago and said St Helens were finished as a play-off force and would struggle to make the 6 in future, when they then made successive grand finals and this year have beaten Wigan on their own muck, so obviously it couldn't have been you.



I think we're agreeing. Mike Smith says it's top 4 for Rovers. I'm saying it won't be for Hull. I'm not sure what your problem is.

I don't really think you've ever owned me. 150 posts in 48 hours on the Offiah-esque Fox being a better winger than Tom Briscoe who does not have the athleticism to be a winger but might have a future in the back row. Ok, cockle.

Just for the record, I'm off to bed now, but I see Zod has been on this forum for the last 20 minutes so am expecting a rather long response to my ownage of him above that involves several of the following:
1) Personal insults (which I enjoy), involving liar, parasite, lowlife etc
2) Some random points about the excellence of Mike Smith and his communication skills
3) Adam Pearson is rubbish, as are FC
4) Craig Sandercock is exciting. Very much so.
5) Rovers will finish above FC.

Oh, and an entirely unfounded claim of ownage and the submission emoticon. There you are Zod, you can go to bed now, I've saved you half an hour and been far more succinct than you sadly ever seem able to manage. Does Craig Sandercock excite you? It's just that you've not mentioned it in the last 10 minutes. Wonder whether you've moved onto bigging up Rovers next coach yet.

McRae is a failed coach? How many clubs has he been sacked by in the SL?
And besides, he isn't the coach at Hull FC, is he? His coaching isn't being questioned.

It's funny how McRae as DoR doesn't have promising references and credentials, but your new appointment has them in abundance apparently.
A bit of consistency would be nice.

Atleast we gave a young British coach a chance, who was your last British coach?

1-0 Old Faithful?

Good to have Zod back, although once you lose a couple of games I'm sure he will go missing again.

MR's List of quota players
Quota - Galea, Webster, Dobson, Green, 1 slot free (not especially useful)

Yeah u did give the guy a chance bet he wishes he hadn't bothered 3 years of misery at fc cos u never gave him the chance week in week out he had to listen to the agar out chants yep u gave him a chance ok,no wonder he has no hair left bet he's still on the medication for post traumatic stress.

I remember the cheers on April 01st when his contract was extended.

This may seem hard to believe on RLfans, but that has to be some of the biggest load of =#FF0000Swear filter-AS I have ever read.

He had support of the fans from the off, but he failed to deliver and took us backwards and then the fans rightly went against him.