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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Stop it. We all know how poor Hull are and we were 18-0 up after about 10 minutes on Friday night. With Blake Green on fire, Dobson pulling the strings and Welham scoring tries for fun, it's just a question of how many. Craig Murdock is convinced we're going to draw each other in the next round, so effectively you're 80 minutes from Wembley. And still moaning. Un-be-liev-a-ble.
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| tbh
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whilst some areas of the game still need work, all those that are moaning still over the performance need to get a grip. Like any team that has had such a poor run of form ,it affects game mentality and this then leads to errors due to trying hard not to make errors instead of just playing their normal game...
its a confidence thing.
when was the last time we actually won back to back games?
its been stuttery for a while and like any team it gets to them... this back to back win might just be the tonic that`s needed to pick them up even further. confidence is key in any sport
and tbh honest having salford on friday is probably another good game, as we know they are not invincible and confidence is higher now, and make it 3 wins on the bounce will lift them again. I would rather see them progress game on game than be good one week and bad the next like has been seen so often.
whilst they are not top teams we have been beating , that is not what matters atm...its winning
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| Quote ="His Bobness"Yes but how can they be blamed for not having your genius? All the world is constantly saddened by not sharing your genius, understanding and compassion but what is there to do?
One day you will take your rightful place as CEO, Chairman, coach, and all things good.
Till then I have some advice, show a bit of respect, it'll work for you a lot better.'"
Who's this respect for exactly?
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| Ball in the right hand side of pitch around 10 meters out, Wheeldon takes up a ball right under the sticks and doesnt make great yards. All I heard was boo's around me. Seems nobody else noticing that Dobson has organised a set play one side and Im sure Green had something going the other way. Then there we have it, Dobson sends Welham flying in. I doubt alot of these fans who boo these plays watch much of the NRL.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Stop it. We all know how poor Hull are and we were 18-0 up after about 10 minutes on Friday night. '"
You really should be getting better at this reverse psychology lark by now dear. You have been practicing for a couple of seasons and its still a bit naff.
You should stick to numbers, its your forte. Have you updated Agars win %age yet? Its dissappeared from your sig on the back of a couple of wins.
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| Quote ="EL CAMO"...are idiots who know nothing about the game.
If I hear another collective moan at the team setting up and attack by moving the ball back into the middle of the park and taking the tackle, I'm going to shoot someone! They seem to expect us to score off every play!'"
Setting up the play is all well and good and it is necessary, and I agree some of the fans seems to moan far too much about it BUT the problem we have with it is we do it far too often. It leads to our plays being predictable and allows the opposition time to get set.
The time it is probably the most annoying is off the back of a penalty, we'll kick for touch, get a tap in the middle of the field then drive it in to 'set the play' 5 yards further up the field then the initial tap. Why do you need to set a play that was already set? I think its this that has led to our predictability and allowed teams to read our plays far too easily.
We look our best when we are playing the ball quickly and rolling down the field, this is when dobbo, green et al seem to have the creativity we know they have.
I have to agree with the commet about Nev being this years scapegoat, he had a pretty good game yesterday and yet from the second he came on fans were moaning about him being a donkey, you need to give credit along with the flack.
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| Quote ="barham red"Setting up the play is all well and good and it is necessary, and I agree some of the fans seems to moan far too much about it BUT the problem we have with it is we do it far too often. It leads to our plays being predictable and allows the opposition time to get set.
The time it is probably the most annoying is off the back of a penalty, we'll kick for touch, get a tap in the middle of the field then drive it in to 'set the play' 5 yards further up the field then the initial tap. Why do you need to set a play that was already set? I think its this that has led to our predictability and allowed teams to read our plays far too easily.
We look our best when we are playing the ball quickly and rolling down the field, this is when dobbo, green et al seem to have the creativity we know they have.
I have to agree with the commet about Nev being this years scapegoat, he had a pretty good game yesterday and yet from the second he came on fans were moaning about him being a donkey, you need to give credit along with the flack.'" Nev did well what Nev does.
But when looking at Bradford I would have chosen a player with more attacking credentials as their defence is gash.
Nev is the kind of player you play against Saints/Wigan/Hudds/Wire when you know you are going to be up against it.
Playing him yesterday made no sense to me.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Sound like a right set of moaning numpties to me. One place off the play-offs, back to back wins, nailed on for a quarter final place in the cup and Newton back shortly. Oh, and into the 2nd half of the season, Fox has finally got off the naked run. Cheer up.
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Erm, sorry to be negative but IMO the way we've been this season I think it's Salford who are nailed on for a quarter-final place.
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| Quote ="Roverswall"Nev did well what Nev does.
But when looking at Bradford I would have chosen a player with more attacking credentials as their defence is gash.
Nev is the kind of player you play against Saints/Wigan/Hudds/Wire when you know you are going to be up against it.
Playing him yesterday made no sense to me.'"
He did and thats all you can ask from him. Not his fault he got picked, he put in a decent performance.
I agree we need better squad players than him to challenge but for fans to constantly slag him off regardless of how he plays is a bit unfair.
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| Loving the respect Matt Cook has earned from the East Standers by the way, perfect example of how players need a bit of time and patience to settle in at a club eh. Actually think he's been one of our MVP's this season.
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| I'm a fan of Nev personally, works his ball$ off every game for us and rarely makes mistakes. Given great service to the club over the years.
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| Whilst I agree that Nev probably doesnt do enough to warrant an extension, saying you wanted to go home when you saw be was playing is stupid and destructive.
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| Quote ="barton baird"Setting yourself up for a sigfest there bud.
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| Quote ="Roofs"I'm a fan of Nev personally, works his ball$ off every game for us and rarely makes mistakes. Given great service to the club over the years.'"
You won't win, he's this seasons scapegoat. For me he is worth what we pay him, we cannot have 25 Dobbo's or Newton's, we need good squad players as well.
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| Quote ="rover49"You won't win, he's this seasons scapegoat. For me he is worth what we pay him, we cannot have 25 Dobbo's or Newton's, we need good squad players as well.'"
I've been quite critical of him, but what I'm actually critical of is the amount of game time he gets, it's more a criticism of our tactics. I think he's a good squad player and he definitely should get game time but that we have better players not getting the same amount of game time in Wheeldon, Taylor and until recently Cook who are not being used enough.
I like Netherton, he certainly gives his all, I'm just not sure we've utilised the squad to it's maximum potential this year. I'm also aware that the players I've listed are very different and offer different qualities to Netherton, it just comes down to tactics and game plan for me.
I definitely do not consider Netherton to be anywhere near the main reason for this seasons disappointments so far.
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| Quote ="pmh"I've been quite critical of him, but what I'm actually critical of is the amount of game time he gets, it's more a criticism of our tactics. I think he's a good squad player and he definitely should get game time but that we have better players not getting the same amount of game time in Wheeldon, Taylor and until recently Cook who are not being used enough.
I like Netherton, he certainly gives his all, I'm just not sure we've utilised the squad to it's maximum potential this year. I'm also aware that the players I've listed are very different and offer different qualities to Netherton, it just comes down to tactics and game plan for me.
I definitely do not consider Netherton to be anywhere near the main reason for this seasons disappointments so far.'" This.
Nev is good for a game when we are up against it as then his qualities are useful, But against a very poor Bradford side, Really JM are you sure we need to be ultra defensive against them?
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| I think most people realise that Nev is a good squad member like all teams have/need, what seems to bug them though, is the way he seems to be included in the team at other players expense. Justin obviously rates him highly to do so, because of this I could see another years contract on the way.
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| i can see another contract heading his way.
I would imagine he's relatively cheap on the salary cap
Fits the homegrown, fed trained or whatever it is this week
I can see how he's a solid defender who rarely gives away penalties, going forward offers very little though, very poor with ball in hand. I can see why he plays through the middle too as in the second row his footwork would be found out at this level.
However, i do feel he should be a squad player and not be in the first choice 17 in any game (ie if every player is fit) I think there are far better players who are as solid defensively but offer more going forwards. I have no problem with him playing if we have injuries (which always happen in a collision sport), suspensions or over the busy periods with short turnarounds but i honestly can't see why he plays most games.
He's certainly not the reason were in the position were in but sometimes wonder why others are left out whilst he plays.
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| Quote ="RoversTrace"What a blinkered attitude. Nev had a really good game today, but seems to have become this season's scapegoat to some
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Sorry but dont have Rovers tattooed on my bicept. Netherton is a good journeyman nothing more.
How did he have a good game by the way?
As he was named a loose forward I would expect at least some tackle busts and a few offloads ..oh and a few dynamic breaks from dummy half.
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| Quote ="EL CAMO"Whilst I agree that Nev probably doesnt do enough to warrant an extension, saying you wanted to go home when you saw be was playing is stupid and destructive.'"
I pay my season ticket money I have my say.
Netherton is a solid player, never let you down etc.
Never be the difference in winning you a game either.
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| That final sentence is impossible to quantify. When you look at any great team they've always had their workmanlike players in amongst them. Half the time nobody notices their good work.
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| Quote ="Bobbin' Along"That final sentence is impossible to quantify. When you look at any great team they've always had their workmanlike players in amongst them. Half the time nobody notices their good work.'"
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| Quote ="Bobbin' Along"icon_surprised.gifops:
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