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| the banter is what makes them special, you spend the week winding your mates up from the other side and having them winding you up, knowing that if you lose your gonna get loads but if you win then bring it on, cos yes, your gonna dish it out big time.
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| Many thanks for all your help. Best responses will hopefully go into the Millennium Magic programme.
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| Quote ="rednwhite"a026.gif I remember when. We was in nl2 all the nasty. Comment and disbarraging remarks
Hull fc gave us the sheer arrogance of hull fans and the club towards us. And when we returned to the top flight they said we let you win just show they cannot accept defeat with dignity. The utter arrogsance and. We are supieror goose stepping they do, make victory over gods gift all the better. Because we accept defeat with dignity hull fc can never do that . That is why. Beating fc means to me dragging them off their high horse, they put them selves on.'"
I've only just seen this post. What a cracker! Bound to make it in to the programme.
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| Quote ="tonylRobin"the banter is what makes them special, you spend the week winding your mates up from the other side and having them winding you up, knowing that if you lose your gonna get loads but if you win then bring it on, cos yes, your gonna dish it out big time.'" Generally this is wrong as most of the people who try to wind you up are not rugby fans and they just jump on the hull daily mail/look north big ups........ my mam n dad supports them but i know sod all about rugby type of people. Most real fans generally know the games will be close and not much in it either way. I prefer talking to the real rovers supporters that like to talk rugby league rather than the ( oh rovers wee'd all over u vise versa conversations) either way its bollards and it means no more to me than another 2 points and hopefully a decent game of rugby. But its usually poor technically and skillfully. Although i do generally enjoy it for the atmosphere
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| Quote ="BlackNwhite"Generally this is wrong as most of the people who try to wind you up are not rugby fans and they just jump on the hull daily mail/look north big ups........ my mam n dad supports them but i know sod all about rugby type of people. Most real fans generally know the games will be close and not much in it either way. I prefer talking to the real rovers supporters that like to talk rugby league rather than the ( oh rovers wee'd all over u vise versa conversations) either way its bollards and it means no more to me than another 2 points and hopefully a decent game of rugby. But its usually poor technically and skillfully. Although i do generally enjoy it for the atmosphere'"
Sorry but I can't agree, as we are all from the same city the wind up is all part and parcel of the game in Hull and is what probably sets this derby apart from the rest of RL. It is just 2 points (or deciding whether the season continues or not ) but it does feel either a whole lot worse or a whole lot better depending on how the result goes.
I too like to have sensible conversations with FC fans I know and work with but also like to have a bit of banter when we win or lose. To say banter is only used by non rugby fans is so very wide of the mark. Some people take it way too far I agree and I believe some people do 'hate' the other clubs which is just silly (anything past strongly dislike is unhealthy).
One question for you, does it feel exactly the same to to win or lose to us as it does if you win or lose to Harlequins?
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| Quote ="barham red"Sorry but I can't agree, as we are all from the same city the wind up is all part and parcel of the game in Hull and is what probably sets this derby apart from the rest of RL. It is just 2 points (or deciding whether the season continues or not
) but it does feel either a whole lot worse or a whole lot better depending on how the result goes.
I too like to have sensible conversations with FC fans I know and work with but also like to have a bit of banter when we win or lose. To say banter is only used by non rugby fans is so very wide of the mark. Some people take it way too far I agree and I believe some people do 'hate' the other clubs which is just silly (anything past strongly dislike is unhealthy).
One question for you, does it feel exactly the same to to win or lose to us as it does if you win or lose to Harlequins?'" obviously the anticipation/atmosphere and even the odd flutters in the belly in a derby game. and yeah it does feel slightly better to win this game than the others. But really im quite sick of them, and your right some people do take them way too far/hatred. And i do generally find most of my rovers mates will talk sensibly about the game which ever way the result goes. Its just a small % of them that give the banter which really isnt worth anything with the standard of rugby usually on display lol its still 2 points
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| Quote ="BlackNwhite"obviously the anticipation/atmosphere and even the odd flutters in the belly in a derby game. and yeah it does feel slightly better to win this game than the others. But really im quite sick of them, and your right some people do take them way too far/hatred. And i do generally find most of my rovers mates will talk sensibly about the game which ever way the result goes. [uIts just a small % of them that give the banter [/uwhich really isnt worth anything with the standard of rugby usually on display lol its still 2 points
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Serious Question - do you actually know what "banter" means?
Id say 95% of both sets of fans have banter between them and other fans, family or colleagues.
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| Quote ="very red robin"Serious Question - do you actually know what "banter" means?
Id say 95% of both sets of fans have banter between them and other fans, family or colleagues.'"
I think thats the problem, some people don't know the difference between banter (good natured ragging of each other) and arguing (the more aggressive bile spilled by the 5% on both sides). Banter is what makes the city's rivalries special, the other is what gives it a bad name.
For those who say its got worse since the 80's either you weren't around in the 80's or you've just forgot how bad it was back then, far worse than now, people did it face to face and it went off a lot, now 99% of the worst side of the rivalry is done by keyboard wind up merchants.
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| At the end of the day I believe that the majority of fans from both clubs like to give good humoured banter.For those who overstep the mark ,whats the point?
Its a game when all said and done,and supporters of either team are passionate about their club,and no amount of P taking,or snide comments would really change anybodies mind.
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| Nothing other than 2 points,,,,,,,,,,,,,if they where a force in SL I would be over the moon but to beat a 3rd rate team is like a win over West Hull...... Expected!
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| Quote ="pugwash pal"Nothing other than 2 points,,,,,,,,,,,,,if they where a force in SL I would be over the moon but to beat a 3rd rate team is like a win over West Hull...... Expected!'"
I can`t quite see your logic.If we are 3rd rate ,yet finished more or less the same as Rovers last season,what does that make your team?
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| Quote ="barton baird"At the end of the day I believe that the majority of fans from both clubs like to give good humoured banter.For those who overstep the mark ,whats the point?
Its a game when all said and done,and supporters of either team are passionate about their club,and no amount of P taking,or snide comments would really change anybodies mind.'"
As ever, speaking sense Mr. baird.
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=#0000FFI can`t quite see your logic.If we are 3rd rate ,yet finished more or less the same as Rovers last season,what does that make your team?'"
Not worth trying, it's an idiot.
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| Quote ="barton baird"I can`t quite see your logic.If we are 3rd rate ,yet =#FF0000finished more or less the same as Rovers last season,what does that make your team?'"
it was less
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| Quote ="BlackNwhite"Generally this is wrong as most of the people who try to wind you up are not rugby fans and they just jump on the hull daily mail/look north big ups........ my mam n dad supports them but i know sod all about rugby type of people. Most real fans generally know the games will be close and not much in it either way. I prefer talking to the real rovers supporters that like to talk rugby league rather than the ( oh rovers wee'd all over u vise versa conversations) either way its bollards and it means no more to me than another 2 points and hopefully a decent game of rugby. But its usually poor technically and skillfully. Although i do generally enjoy it for the atmosphere'"
Have you ever been to a derby????
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| Quote ="roversmad"it was less
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Technically?
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| Quote ="barton baird"I can`t quite see your logic.If we are 3rd rate ,yet finished more or less the same as Rovers last season,what does that make your team?'"
Thought we arn't allowed to live in the past....Last season's gone
2011 is the year of the Robin.
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| Quote ="pugwash pal"Thought we arn't allowed to live in the past....Last season's gone
2011 is the year of the Robin.'"
If so, fair enough,but if we are on about 2011 how do you know we are going to be 3rd rate?
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| Quote ="pugwash pal"[uThought we arn't allowed to live in the past....Last season's gone
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Has 1980 gone yet?
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| Quote ="Chris28"\
Has 1980 gone yet?'"
Yep,The 10 -5 bar is still there though.
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| Quote ="barton baird"Yep,The 10 -5 bar is still there though.
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It also has a clock in the bar which has the hands set at 6.42, a record win since time began.
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| unquestionably the BIGGEST and BEST derby in superleague winning it means showing your colours with pride and havin a sly grin at the dark side hiding theirs .makes eating dinner with family who misguidedly follow the team from west hull(i blame bad parenting) more enjoyable
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| Quote ="barton baird"Yep,The 10 -5 bar is still there though.
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reflects a proud moment in our clubs history, so whats the problem (I am sure if you lot had won that day we would still be copping it), unlike 1865 which is actually the formation date of a club that no longer exists, talk about clinging to the past.
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| Quote ="rover49"reflects a proud moment in our clubs history.'"
Always nice to have at least one.
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| Quote ="pugwash pal"It also has a clock in the bar which has the hands set at 6.42, a record win since time began.
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Wouldn`t know,I missed half of it.
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