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| We can cope been a few hundred down I wud be worried if we was 4000 down, looks like Sir Rule will be giving away even more free tickets to make the gates look good yet again next season.
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| Please discuss Hull FC's pass sales on the Hull FC forum. Ta. They have different deadlines and I suspect the apparent doom and gloom is partly to set up one of those 'timely boosts', so tread careful like.
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Quote ="Roofs"Prove it hun.
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Prove what?
November 2008 Rovers pass sales over 6000:
www.superleague.co.uk/article.php?id=12438
"Hull KR’s supporters have responded with their customary zeal in snapping up over 6,000 tickets for the 2009 season."
November 2009 Hudgell says "Figures for season pass sales are comparable with last year at this stage give or take a few."
Comment at 6.24:
www.coveritlive.com/index2.php?o ... 66d&ipod=y
Now, 2 weeks closer to the season starting, a figure of 5500 is stated as an improvement vs the same point last year.
Are these 3 statements entirely consistent? Don't have a go at me, just reporting what's been said by club representatives.
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Quote ="Roofs"Prove it hun.
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Prove what?
November 2008 Rovers pass sales over 6000:
www.superleague.co.uk/article.php?id=12438
"Hull KR’s supporters have responded with their customary zeal in snapping up over 6,000 tickets for the 2009 season."
November 2009 Hudgell says "Figures for season pass sales are comparable with last year at this stage give or take a few."
Comment at 6.24:
www.coveritlive.com/index2.php?o ... 66d&ipod=y
Now, 2 weeks closer to the season starting, a figure of 5500 is stated as an improvement vs the same point last year.
Are these 3 statements entirely consistent? Don't have a go at me, just reporting what's been said by club representatives.
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| Are Rovers selling passes for the "extended bit" of the east stand or will that be an as and when basis?
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| Hello Mrs B. I don't post very much but I often read whats been put on here. It always puzzles me as to why you are on the HKR forum? Why are you so interested in the HKR forum. If us HKR fans would like to take what the chairman says as good news then why try and put HKR down at every opportunity? No offence meant by this but you just baffle me sometimes.
Are you a closet KR fan?
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Original post states..as reported on RH sports news at 8 am on Dec 8th...
Quote ="GraftonRed"...up on this time last year, 5,500 sold so far.'"
The link you provide for November 16, 2009 states.......
"......we’ve already sold more than 700 passes to people who’ve not bought one before. The Rovers membership is above 5000, although has reached a plateau slightly the last few weeks......"
I fail to see a figure of 5500 mentioned, (is this just a figure of your overworked imagination?) so there is no reason to imply the original post statement of "up on this time last year" is anything but correct.
...unless of course you can delve into your extensive archive and "PROVE" otherwise....
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Original post states..as reported on RH sports news at 8 am on Dec 8th...
Quote ="GraftonRed"...up on this time last year, 5,500 sold so far.'"
The link you provide for November 16, 2009 states.......
"......we’ve already sold more than 700 passes to people who’ve not bought one before. The Rovers membership is above 5000, although has reached a plateau slightly the last few weeks......"
I fail to see a figure of 5500 mentioned, (is this just a figure of your overworked imagination?) so there is no reason to imply the original post statement of "up on this time last year" is anything but correct.
...unless of course you can delve into your extensive archive and "PROVE" otherwise....
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| Quote ="GraftonRed"Original post states..as reported on RH sports news at 8 am on Dec 8th...
The link you provide for November 16, 2009 states.......
"......we’ve already sold more than 700 passes to people who’ve not bought one before. The Rovers membership is above 5000, although has reached a plateau slightly the last few weeks......"
I fail to see a figure of 5500 mentioned, (is this just a figure of your overworked imagination?)
so there is no reason to imply the original post statement of "up on this time last year" is anything but correct.
...unless of course you can delve into your extensive archive and "PROVE" otherwise....
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You're missing the point.
1) In November 2008 sales were over 6000.
2)In November 2009 the direct quote from Hudgell was "Figures for season pass sales are comparable with last year at this stage give or take a few."
3)In December 2010, with a couple of extra weeks of sales under their belt, we're now told that sales are 5500 and that is up on the same time last year.
So the possible scenarios are as follows:
Statements 1 and 3 are correct, and statement 2 is false, and sales in November 2009 were actually below 5500, so when Hudgell said "are comparable with last year at this stage give or take a few", he actually meant " are down at least 500".
Statements 1 and 2 are correct and the statement 3,that sales are up on the same time last year at 5500, is incorrect
Statement 1 was incorrect and sales have never been over 6000 in November.
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| Hello Mrs B. Did you know it is bad manners to ignore people?
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"Hello Mrs B. I don't post very much but I often read whats been put on here. It always puzzles me as to why you are on the HKR forum? Why are you so interested in the HKR forum. If us HKR fans would like to take what the chairman says as good news then why try and put HKR down at every opportunity? No offence meant by this but you just baffle me sometimes.
Are you a closet KR fan?'"
Just trying to keep you all honest, since when was independent scrutiny outlawed? Look, without me this board, with the exception of the luscious Mr Dog and pmh (although I'm a bit peeved that he has a favourite that's not me, but I think he's just trying to get me to work harder) is just rather dull self-congratulation. Every board needs a pantomime villain, particularly at this time of year. Besides, your chairman seems to enjoy putting FC down. Nowt wrong with some reciprocation.
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| Look, without me this board, with the exception of the luscious Mr Dog and pmh (although I'm a bit peeved that he has a favourite that's not me, but I think he's just trying to get me to work harder) is just rather dull self-congratulation.
mrs b, i'll take a boring self congratulating board without you any day of the week
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Just trying to keep you all honest.'"
I was trying to catch up with "The Apprentice", this statement caused my whole fecking Hill Top Lair to implode.
Quote ="Mrs Barista" pantomime villain'"
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| PANTOMINE being the operatve word Mrs B
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| can think of more appropriate words but the mods might say something!!
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"You're missing the point.'"
Do you know, i think you're right.
Anyway,now it's been established that season pass sales " are" up on this time " last year!" , this is more good news from CP this closed season.
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| so flipping what, please disappear onto the fc board, apparently you support them!!!!
Slightly edited but i think the point still remains.
RBA.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Not really - only if statements 1 and 3 are correct and 2 was false. Naughty.
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If we continue point 2 a little further to involve the actual figures quoted, and not conveniently miss them out, then all 3 statments are correct, the only sticking point being your interpretation of the word comparable, although the statement is backed up with figures.
1) In November 2008 sales were over 6000.
2)In November 2009 the direct quote from Hudgell was "Figures for season pass sales are comparable with last year at this stage give or take a few...... " the bit you conveniently missed out"->..it’s encouraging that we’ve already sold more than 700 passes to people who’ve not bought one before. The Rovers membership is above 5000, although has reached a plateau slightly the last few weeks." <-
3)In December 2010, with a couple of extra weeks of sales under their belt, we're now told that sales are 5500 and that is up on the same time last year.
Are you disputing the 5000 figure, even though you did a link to Hudgell saying this?
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| Quote ="GraftonRed"If we continue point 2 a little further to involve the actual figures quoted, and not conveniently miss them out, then all 3 statments are correct, the only sticking point being your interpretation of the word comparable, although the statement is backed up with figures.
1) In November 2008 sales were over 6000.
2)In November 2009 the direct quote from Hudgell was "Figures for season pass sales are comparable with last year at this stage give or take a few...... "the bit you conveniently missed out"->..it’s encouraging that we’ve already sold more than 700 passes to people who’ve not bought one before. The Rovers membership is above 5000, although has reached a plateau slightly the last few weeks." <-
3)In December 2010, with a couple of extra weeks of sales under their belt, we're now told that sales are 5500 and that is up on the same time last year.
Are you disputing the 5000 figure, even though you did a link to Hudgell saying this?'"
Don't confuse the old dear. With season passes being up on the comparitive period last season, the East stand extension and the North stand funding and the Willie Mason signing it's not been a very good off season for Mrs B
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| Quote ="Bertie"Don't confuse the old dear. With season passes being up on the comparitive period last season, the East stand extension and the North stand funding and the Willie Mason signing it's not been a very good off season for Mrs B
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Quote ="Roofs"Hey so what's the story with the Elf avatar?'"
Quote ="Mrs Barista"One of my favourite films. Have you seen it? I do like Elves'"
Perhaps we may get a rest from 5.40 until 7.30 this Sunday then.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Not really - only if statements 1 and 3 are correct and 2 was false. Naughty.
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Mrs B are you a retired accountant?
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| Quote ="GraftonRed"If we continue point 2 a little further to involve the actual figures quoted, and not conveniently miss them out, then all 3 statments are correct, the only sticking point being your interpretation of the word comparable, although the statement is backed up with figures.
1) In November 2008 sales were over 6000.
2)In November 2009 the direct quote from Hudgell was "Figures for season pass sales are comparable with last year at this stage give or take a few...... "the bit you conveniently missed out"->..it’s encouraging that we’ve already sold more than 700 passes to people who’ve not bought one before. The Rovers membership is above 5000, although has reached a plateau slightly the last few weeks." <-
3)In December 2010, with a couple of extra weeks of sales under their belt, we're now told that sales are 5500 and that is up on the same time last year.
Are you disputing the 5000 figure, even though you did a link to Hudgell saying this?'"
The 5000 number references Club [uRovers membership,[/u not pass sales. Plenty of people bought a pass without Club Rovers membership, others became members without a pass. They are 2 separate things. Hudgell is quite clear that season pass sales in November 2009 were were in line with November 2008. The giveaway here is his use of the phrase "[uSeason pass sales [/uare in line with this time last year give or take a few. The 5000 refers to Club Rovers membership. The giveaway phrase here is "[uRovers membership[/u". He then qualifies this by saying people don't fully understand Club Rovers. A reasonable effort on your part, but sadly unsuccessful.
Even if you were right (which you're not) and the 5000 referred to season passholders in November 2009, that would still make either the declared 6000 in 2008 incorrect, because Hudgell is saying at 5000, November 2009 sales were in line with November 2008, or the statement that November 2009 sales at 5000 were in line with November 2008 was incorrect. Either way, these three statements are not fully compatible, as well you know.
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| Feck me, I'm considering buying five thousand season tickets myself just to put an end to this whirlpool of an argument.
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| The word meaning of the word 'comparable' is open to interpretation. Mrs B's is legitimate, but not definitive. Based on the assumptions she has adopted, her logic is sound. The basis of her interpretation may reflect a natural unbiased response to 'comparable', a healthy scepticism or a desperate reflexive need to score a point, no matter how narrow or contrived.
By interpreting 'comparable' in a different way we can have an argument to keep us warm / bore us rigid through the long, cold off-season.
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