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| So, the NHS are basically building you a new stand?
I thought there was a recession, with large public sector cuts? I'll tell my wife about it. She'll no doubt be delighted that her pay freeze this year is paying for your east stand extension.
Don't get me wrong, I'm pleased you are expanding your ground, and it's for the benefit of the club and sport in Hull, but at this current time I would suggest the NHS should be spending their money more wisely?
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Quote ="beetwaste"So, the NHS are basically building you a new stand?
I thought there was a recession, with large public sector cuts? I'll tell my wife about it. She'll no doubt be delighted that her pay freeze this year is paying for your east stand extension.
Don't get me wrong, I'm pleased you are expanding your ground, and it's for the benefit of the club and sport in Hull, but at this current time I would suggest the NHS should be spending their money more wisely?'"
karl.turner.mp@parliament.uk
Write to the local MP, he'll give you an answer.
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Quote ="beetwaste"So, the NHS are basically building you a new stand?
I thought there was a recession, with large public sector cuts? I'll tell my wife about it. She'll no doubt be delighted that her pay freeze this year is paying for your east stand extension.
Don't get me wrong, I'm pleased you are expanding your ground, and it's for the benefit of the club and sport in Hull, but at this current time I would suggest the NHS should be spending their money more wisely?'"
karl.turner.mp@parliament.uk
Write to the local MP, he'll give you an answer.
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| Quote ="phleastyler"too right tony, i for one won't go anywhere but the east stand but arent a season pass holder, can't always get a ticket to the most popular stand so i unfortunately miss a game or 3, hopefully not now, how many more like me??'"
Wow, you're such a good supporter of your club.
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| Quote ="beetwaste"So, the NHS are basically building you a new stand?'"
No, they are contributing to the project, in return they will have premises under the stand to promote healthy living in East Hull (if that's not an oxymoron).
Quote ="beetwaste" but at this current time I would suggest the NHS should be spending their money more wisely?'"
Like splashing out £500,000 on a yacht?
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| Quote ="beetwaste"So, the NHS are basically building you a new stand?
I thought there was a recession, with large public sector cuts? I'll tell my wife about it. She'll no doubt be delighted that her pay freeze this year is paying for your east stand extension.
Don't get me wrong, I'm pleased you are expanding your ground, and it's for the benefit of the club and sport in Hull, but at this current time I would suggest the NHS should be spending their money more wisely?'"
How much would it cost would it cost to build this on there own?.
They would have to buy the land get planning , then pay for it to be built complete with access roads and such.
Would that have been cheaper i doubt it
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| Quote ="beetwaste"So, the NHS are basically building you a new stand?
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They are providing funding for an [uextension[/u to an existing stand, under which they'll will have their facilities.
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| Is this the east stand or north stand cos arnt the nhs giving fc money for they're sports development or am I barking up the wrong tree totally
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| Quote ="hkrovers"How much would it cost would it cost to build this on there own?.
They would have to buy the land get planning , then pay for it to be built complete with access roads and such.
Would that have been cheaper i doubt it'"
I find it hard to believe that there aren't buildings already available that could perform a similar function for the NHS.
And yes, the cash on the yacht is an extravagance as well.
Anyway, I thought this sort of facility was earmarked for the proposed north stand development???
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| Quote ="gingerspice"Is this the east stand or north stand cos arnt the nhs giving fc money for they're sports development or am I barking up the wrong tree totally'"
As ever Ranga, you're not even in the right forest.
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| Quote ="pmh"As ever Ranga, you're not even in the right forest.'"
Your like a wasp in the off season very irritating sum times PMS
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| Quote ="beetwaste"I find it hard to believe that there aren't buildings already available that could perform a similar function for the NHS.
And yes, the cash on the yacht is an extravagance as well.
Anyway, I thought this sort of facility was earmarked for the proposed north stand development???'"
That is a seperate development and would be with different partners, I believe.
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| Quote ="hkrovers"How much would it cost would it cost to build this on there own?.
They would have to buy the land get planning , then pay for it to be built complete with access roads and such.
Would that have been cheaper i doubt it'"
Thats not really the debate here though. The debate is whether in the current economic climate it's sensible for public money to be used on this kind of investment. Fwiw i'm in favour of the funding going in partnership with sports teams to maximise usage of facilities. Just not sure this is the right time to be spending public money on this kind of thing. What will happen for example if the NHS facility doesnt get built for the local area? (putting rugby to one side for a minute)
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| Quote ="pmh"As ever Ranga, you're not even in the right forest.'"
iirc Hull FC are also 'working in partnership with the NHS'. This was to have been at the Boulevard but I think alternative plans are now in place. Perhaps a Hull FC fan could fill in the details? The figure I've seen bandied about for this was £700k, though that may have changed as the plans have evolved (or was probably not accurate in the first place, as I probably got it off here )
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"What will happen for example if the NHS facility doesnt get built for the local area? (putting rugby to one side for a minute)'"
I'm not sure I understand (?). If it isn't built, the NHS wouldn't release the cash.
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| Radio Humberside reported North Stand given the go ahead should be ready for 2012 season
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| Quote ="Aldy"Radio Humberside reported North Stand given the go ahead should be ready for 2012 season'"
Now that really would be fantastic.
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iirc Hull FC are also 'working in partnership with the NHS'. This was to have been at the Boulevard but I think alternative plans are now in place. Perhaps a Hull FC fan could fill in the details? The figure I've seen bandied about for this was £700k, though that may have changed as the plans have evolved (or was probably not accurate in the first place, as I probably got it off here
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I know, I just like poking Ranga with a stick.
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| Quote ="Aldy"Radio Humberside reported North Stand given the go ahead should be ready for 2012 season'"
Can anybody confirm this? I thought there was meant to be a press embargo in place until after the council cabinet meeting had announced its decision.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"iirc Hull FC are also 'working in partnership with the NHS'. This was to have been at the Boulevard but I think alternative plans are now in place. Perhaps a Hull FC fan could fill in the details? The figure I've seen bandied about for this was £700k, though that may have changed as the plans have evolved (or was probably not accurate in the first place, as I probably got it off here
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From memory (so probably factually incorrect) Hull agreed a deal with the council to take the boulevard off them to use as a training facility. As part of the deal the NHS agreed to put 700k in for a drop in centre etc. Hull KR kicked up a fuss at this and secured themselves 300k.
At the last minute following all agreements been put in place Hull City Council backed out of the deal with Hull FC in favour of building an Academy on the boulevard site. The Academy plan has now been shelved due to funding problems and Hull FC are looking at other options.
Does that sound right?
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Can anybody confirm this? I thought there was meant to be a press embargo in place until after the council cabinet meeting had announced its decision.'"
c'est vrai
[urlhttp://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/sport/HULL-KR-Council-ahead-163-6-5m-North-Stand/article-2921726-detail/article.html[/url
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"I'm not sure I understand (?). If it isn't built, the NHS wouldn't release the cash.'"
Sorry, not worded clearly. What would be the impact in the local area if they didnt have this facility?
The way that i would be approaching this project from a local authority point of view would be to look at the benefit that the local area would get versus cash spent and then see whether the development is classed as essential currently or whether it's just 'nice to have'
All non-essential builds should be stopped currently imo. Is this really essential is what i'm trying to say based on the local impact on the area of having an NHS centre?
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Sorry, not worded clearly. What would be the impact in the local area if they didnt have this facility?
The way that i would be approaching this project from a local authority point of view would be to look at the benefit that the local area would get versus cash spent and then see whether the development is classed as essential currently or whether it's just 'nice to have'
All non-essential builds should be stopped currently imo. Is this really essential is what i'm trying to say based on the local impact on the area of having an NHS centre?'"
It is difficult for me to look at this in an unbiassed way. Just assume I've written my usual one-eyed logic-twisting, partisan nonsense. I need to go find a sock!
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"c'est vrai
[urlhttp://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/sport/HULL-KR-Council-ahead-163-6-5m-North-Stand/article-2921726-detail/article.html[/url'"
I guess publicly moaning about been poverty stricken and the support of a prominent member of the house of lords really is the way to do business then!!
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| Great that you are finally getting a new stand but I echo whats already been said on here about the economic climate at the moment. My husband will be pleased that he has a 2 year pay freeze and the threat of redundancy hanging over his head but the Council are using £4.2m of public money that could possibly save some redundancies and give HCC workers their 2% cost of living rise for this year. Its just been reported on Look North that the Council need to save so many million this year and it has been suggested that Hull Truck may have to close and Museums will only open 3 days a week. The new plans for Orchard Park have also been shelved which admittidly is Central Government but there are going to be some very angry Hull Citizens over the spending on your stand.
Not a case of sour grapes or jealously by the way, just don't think now is the right time for the Council to be spending that sort of money.
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| Quote ="Hull White Star"Great that you are finally getting a new stand but I echo whats already been said on here about the economic climate at the moment. My husband will be pleased that he has a 2 year pay freeze and the threat of redundancy hanging over his head but the Council are using £4.2m of public money that could possibly save some redundancies and give HCC workers their 2% cost of living rise for this year. Its just been reported on Look North that the Council need to save so many million this year and it has been suggested that Hull Truck may have to close and Museums will only open 3 days a week. The new plans for Orchard Park have also been shelved which admittidly is Central Government but there are going to be some very angry Hull Citizens over the spending on your stand.
Not a case of sour grapes or jealously by the way, just don't think now is the right time for the Council to be spending that sort of money.'"
My Wife also works for the council, she is also under threat of redundancy, and subject to a pay freeze. However, she is over the moon with this news, and would gladly lose her job as a small sacrifice to ensure the future of Hull Kingston Rovers.
A real trooper is my wife!
For "angry citizens" read "Hull FC fans"
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| Quote ="SirStan"My Wife also works for the council, she is also under threat of redundancy, and subject to a pay freeze. However, she is over the moon with this news, and would gladly lose her job as a small sacrifice to ensure the future of Hull Kingston Rovers.
A real trooper is my wife!
For "angry citizens" read "Hull FC fans"
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Actually I'm quite pleased about it. Should finally put paid to all this 'we make our own way with no handouts' bollox that gets regularly spouted by Rovers fans.
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