The one dimensional play was an issue, the coach noticed it and rectified the situation, the crusaders result wasn't glossed over. It was taken in context, sonmething that as an FC fan may need to be explained to you.

We were in 7th no matter what, Crusaders needed the result for play off rugby. We had a play off game the week after that was what the team would be concentrating on. They did, we went on and won it so in the big picture the coach was right in his tactics. Nothing to moan about therfore no one moaned. No carpet brushing necessary.. HTH..

Just another dull grey breeze block stadium!

This flying dentist isn't part of the Israeli mafia....its far worse, he's part of Rules hitman squad

Aye...one where every-one keeps dry whilst watching a game, one which fits all the home and away fans in, and lets not forget all the toilets each one has toilet paper

Actually, credit where credits due. You keep those facilities in sparkling condition, Ms. bitch. Well done.

I think it's credit to the cleaning staff the way they spruce things up in that 20 minute period between the home fans and the away fans leaving.

To qualify for the money off shirts, you had to want a shirt and to pay an extra £35. To qualify for the derby tickets, you had to want to go to the KC and pay an extra £12. The point is that whether or not you choose to participate in these additional activities, the amounts quoted are the [uminimum[/u cash any adult Club Rovers member has to pay for a season pass. I know it's difficult for you to understand, but there we are.

Another irrelevant point. I'm not arguing that people have participated in the scheme as Rovers have 6,900 passholders (although some felt they were over a barrel to join Club Rovers to start with in order to retain their seat); joining Club Rovers as shown means cheaper passes than not being a member. However, even for Club Rovers members this still represents, for the RM stand example, an increase in real cash terms of £65 over 2 years, or +15.5% vs 2008, and 6.6% more than you pay for reserved seating at the KC.


Indeed. We also have the choice not to pay a penny until 31st December and still get the full discount.

Im kept very dry at home games thanks.

Once again, not really a problem, even with you guys being our very close neighbours, you struggle to fill the away end.

Im assuming you have mentioned this point because you have had a problem with no toilet paper at CP, well Im surprised that would be a problem for you black and whites

For a supposed accountant Mrs B you seem to find the concept of season passes a little difficult. As EHR has already posted a Rovers club JR mum, for instance obtained a seat in the RM stand less than your supposed minimum, so bang goes your argument there.

You are correct in the assumption that fans had the choice or not of joining the scheme which i suppose is a decent indication that a good percentage saw the discounted shirts, half price derby tickets and discounted play off tickets etc, etc for starters as offereing value for money considering the take up of members.

Perhaps it's better you try to placate your own supporters moans and gripes at being charged for using a debit card, a concept i suggest, that not even yourself or the other spinmaster Wilf can justify.

Fair enough on the RSG mums. I'm sure that was a hefty proportion of the 6,900 passholders.
The £2 debitcard charge is stupid. But at least those debit card devotees have until 31st December to arrange a cash or cheque or postal order payment method instead. This point of much more generous payment periods seems one you are rather keen to gloss over.

Your discount period is closer to Christmas the ours. As Rovers passes came out earlier are we not as supporters in a stronger position. We have our passes paid up well in advance of Christmas therfore not an added expense that people don't need around that time of year. The charge of paying by direct debit is scandelous. Hull won't be charged anything for debit card payments only on credit card payments surely.

So FC, by allowing their supporters cash in the bank for an additional 13 weeks and 3 or 4 extra month end pay cheques (last year the discount window was extended to the first week in January to allow for this), are actively disadvantaging them? Perhaps you should suggest Rovers do their fans a favour and launch season passes for 2012 at Easter 2011 to they can pay for them before the expense of the the summer holidays.



There is a charge to retailers for use of debit and credit cards, but it depends on the volume of transactions that retailer makes. Credit card charges are a % of the transaction value but debit cards are a fixed fee per transaction. Last place I worked it was 60p per transaction but that's going back a few years.

The fee's for debit card transactions went a few years ago IIRC. There was a time when you had to spend a minimum of £5.00 before you could use your debit card. I've bought a solitary 30p paper with my debit card infact I'm struggling to remember my last cash transaction other then over the bar yesterday dinner time..

charging for using credit cards is becoming far more popular nowadays but debit payments are mostly fee free.

Didn't we have an option to pay over 4 months? therefore the last payment was by the end of December so in essence a similar deal?

I don't understand your point. For those wishing to pay in full and get the full discount, Club Rovers fans had until 18th Seotember, a deadline then extended to 3rd October. FC fans have until 31st December (extended last year to first week in January to take into account December month end pay). Those paying in instalments at FC have until the end of November to sign up and the first payment goes out mid December with a further 2 in January and February, so have an additional 2 months without paying anything. How is this the same?

its not the same, it is subtly different to your statement that we have to pay for our passes by October when in fact the full payment doesn't have to be paid until December.

What I don't understand is why you feel the need to try and undermine our season pass 'strategy' by comparing apples to pears and tryng to convince yourself that we are being ripped off.

As in most business its a case of supply and demand, we have areas that have high demand for limitted space. Your lot have the more space than demand. I'm pretty sure if Fc ould get away with accelerating season pass sales they would but the reality is if they reduced the window they'd just reduce the uptake.

As I stated earlier, using this site a snap shot of fan feeling, our fans are reasonably happy with the pass situation and pricing whereas a lot of your lot are not. Maybe you should have a spell on there and convince the disgruntled ones they are in fact watching entertaining RL, which is what its all about.

[uJRs[/u mums



And does it really matter when passes are released? Hull's shirts go on sale in the next few weeks yet ours have still to be released. That means we'll have longer to save up than you

You're just not understanding the rules of this game are you?

Clearly, our shirts going on sale so near to Christmas will impact upon many families ability to pay for a slap up turkey dinner, leaving the bairns of East Hull to go hungry over the festive period.

We lose again I'm afraid.

I undertsand that in the interests of goodwill our Black and White neighbours will be using the cash windfall from having £200 in the bank for 3 months at between 0% and 0.5% interest to pay for a slap up meal for the unfortunate Rovers fans that have so callously had their Christmas dinner stolen from them by Ebenezer Hudgill.

You can suppose what you like BRed, but wait until you actually have our final pass holders at the KC to follow what you think is 'utter durge'. Makes me wonder what sort of 'durge' you red & whites play with the total of passholders at the caravan park -even allowing for all those who have already missed the deadline for the Club Rovers!.....good luck anyway chuck, ..grannyfan Cindy

Don't spoil it for them grannyfan...fans moan every year on the board they will not renew, we finished near the bottom of the league for 2 seasons and still got record pass sales for both the seasons following...a couple of hundred fans on here do not represent the 1000s of faithful as we know, but some on here like to believe they do

You're expecting less this year (and I should imagine we are as well) due to the prevailing economic climate in Hull.

We will see, if there is a dip I would not expect it to be too significant, maybe less than a 700, I personally still expect 8300-9000 passes sold by FC.