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| Quote ="Bobbin' Along"I think it's one we keep in the back pocket if ultimately we don't get the funding.'"
Absolutely.
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| Quote ="Digger_the_Dog" Hull is not big enough to need 2 stadiums.?'"
a typically naive and shortsighted view as expressed by most that support one side or another.
well not to burst your bubble but can you tell me how many stadiums are already in hull?
now do think long and hard on this one
i know of 3 at the very least at this present moment in time... how many can you come up with.
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| Quote ="Bobbin' Along"I think it's one we keep in the back pocket if ultimately we don't get the funding.'"
Goodness, what massive trousers you have, even bigger than the Big Stinky Dishcloth, sorry, I mean the lovely big Sporting Bet shirt
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| Quote ="hkrdavidhkr"how many can you come up with.'"
Are we including Subbuteo?
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| Quote ="pmh"Are we including Subbuteo?'"
no but i will include lego and mechano etc
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| Quote ="Digger_the_Dog"Asking the Council to help a business increase their profits by handing them millions of tax payers money? Yep, well thought through campaign this.
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What are these "profits" you speak of?
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| Quote ="hkrdavidhkr"just had a similar arguement with my father who is staunch fc, and he too is of the the opinion that we made our own bed and should lie in in it.
this is a all too common attitude, one which i believe to be wrong.
anything that contributes to making the city of hull better should be fully supported.
and having 3 top flight teams(or close to in city`s case) should be maintained and have backing,
city failed in their first foray in the prem for a few reasons, but some of which was the backroom politics that control our city.
hundreds of thousands was spent and wasted on a huge big screen tv(now removed)
[uhundreds of thousands was spent on daft 2ft high frogs..... Why[/u?
the list can go on and on as where money is wasted .'"
Council didn't pay for these it was a private investor i believe
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Quote ="Stan2363"Council didn't pay for these it was a private investor i believe'"
taken from hdm
Fibreglass toad row
Fibreglass toads are coming to town.
A ROW has erupted over plans to spend £200,000 worth of taxpayers' money on 100 fibre-glass toads in Hull.
The model toads will be placed around the city later this summer as part of a festival marking the 25th anniversary of the death of poet Philip Larkin.
Most of the funding for the £290,000 toad project is being met by Hull City Council with a one-off £200,000 grant.
For the same money the local authority could afford to repair 3,500 potholes.
rest of the article is here
www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... ticle.html
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Quote ="Stan2363"Council didn't pay for these it was a private investor i believe'"
taken from hdm
Fibreglass toad row
Fibreglass toads are coming to town.
A ROW has erupted over plans to spend £200,000 worth of taxpayers' money on 100 fibre-glass toads in Hull.
The model toads will be placed around the city later this summer as part of a festival marking the 25th anniversary of the death of poet Philip Larkin.
Most of the funding for the £290,000 toad project is being met by Hull City Council with a one-off £200,000 grant.
For the same money the local authority could afford to repair 3,500 potholes.
rest of the article is here
www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... ticle.html
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| Got to say, I'm a fan of the toads.
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| What have I done! That last post is bound to be used out of context in a certain lady's quotabase.
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| Quote ="Bobbin' Along"Got to say, I'm a fan of the toads.'"
Quote ="Bobbin' Along"What have I done! That last post is bound to be used out of context in a certain lady's quotabase'"
I'm sure your correct.....
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Quote ="hkrdavidhkr"taken from hdm
Fibreglass toad row
Fibreglass toads are coming to town.
A ROW has erupted over plans to spend £200,000 worth of taxpayers' money on 100 fibre-glass toads in Hull.
The model toads will be placed around the city later this summer as part of a festival marking the 25th anniversary of the death of poet Philip Larkin.
Most of the funding for the £290,000 toad project is being met by Hull City Council with a one-off £200,000 grant.
For the same money the local authority could afford to repair 3,500 potholes.
rest of the article is here
www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... ticle.html'"
They didn't lay out the cash after the uproar caused by the HDM article you've quoted and it was funded by the private sector. AFAIK
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Quote ="hkrdavidhkr"taken from hdm
Fibreglass toad row
Fibreglass toads are coming to town.
A ROW has erupted over plans to spend £200,000 worth of taxpayers' money on 100 fibre-glass toads in Hull.
The model toads will be placed around the city later this summer as part of a festival marking the 25th anniversary of the death of poet Philip Larkin.
Most of the funding for the £290,000 toad project is being met by Hull City Council with a one-off £200,000 grant.
For the same money the local authority could afford to repair 3,500 potholes.
rest of the article is here
www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... ticle.html'"
They didn't lay out the cash after the uproar caused by the HDM article you've quoted and it was funded by the private sector. AFAIK
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| yes true, after a bit of digging around i have just read this also.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"The point about the KC stadium being a money spinner for the council strikes me as a bit disingenuous. When will the council start to see a profit on their initial 40-odd million pound investment? To Baristarize you - was there a compelling business case?
I'm not sure there is a bad time for the local community to request spending - there may well be better and worse times to get it though.
Otherwise, I agree.'"
it was stated in the HDM a few years ago that the council actually pay rent for their facilities at the KC, i.e. they rent offices in the ground they own...you really coulden't make the public sector up!
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| Quote ="Bobbin' Along"What have I done! That last post is bound to be used out of context in a certain lady's quotabase.'"
I can't remember ever quoting you as you seldom post anything stupid. Oh, apart from telling me I was fibbing about enjoying reaching a major final.
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My memory isn't that great (but I've got a feeling that was taken out of context).
However, rather than have it dug up again I'm going to be magnanimous and concede that I really was very silly in suggesting you didn't enjoy a major final.
OK?
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| Quote ="Bobbin' Along"icon_lol.gif
My memory isn't that great (but I've got a feeling that was taken out of context).
However, rather than have it dug up again I'm going to be magnanimous and concede that I really was very silly in suggesting you didn't enjoy a major final.
OK?
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It really wasn't out of context. I loved that day out, much better losing at Wembley (maybe it's the familiarity) than at Old Trafford. I'd like FC to win the grand final one day, but the cup final as an occasion is much better IMO. With or without toads.
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Quote ="hkrdavidhkr"taken from hdm
Fibreglass toad row
Fibreglass toads are coming to town.
A ROW has erupted over plans to spend £200,000 worth of taxpayers' money on 100 fibre-glass toads in Hull.
The model toads will be placed around the city later this summer as part of a festival marking the 25th anniversary of the death of poet Philip Larkin.
Most of the funding for the £290,000 toad project is being met by Hull City Council with a one-off £200,000 grant.
For the same money the local authority could afford to repair 3,500 potholes.
rest of the article is here
www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... ticle.html'"
The way i understand it is that the council was going to pay, however in the 11th hour they pulled there funding and a private investor stepped in to pay
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Quote ="hkrdavidhkr"taken from hdm
Fibreglass toad row
Fibreglass toads are coming to town.
A ROW has erupted over plans to spend £200,000 worth of taxpayers' money on 100 fibre-glass toads in Hull.
The model toads will be placed around the city later this summer as part of a festival marking the 25th anniversary of the death of poet Philip Larkin.
Most of the funding for the £290,000 toad project is being met by Hull City Council with a one-off £200,000 grant.
For the same money the local authority could afford to repair 3,500 potholes.
rest of the article is here
www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... ticle.html'"
The way i understand it is that the council was going to pay, however in the 11th hour they pulled there funding and a private investor stepped in to pay
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| Quote ="hkrdavidhkr"a typically naive and shortsighted view as expressed by most that support one side or another.
well not to burst your bubble but can you tell me how many stadiums are already in hull?
now do think long and hard on this one
i know of 3 at the very least at this present moment in time... how many can you come up with.'"
There is one. The KC STADIUM. I also know of a Craven PARK.
If you want to include Costello I will admit Hull can cope with 1 proper stadium and one dump but three is not needed.
The fact is Rovers need to fund their own expansion not the people of Hull.
I am glad my Council Tax goes towards nice flowers in Hornsea and an excellent bench in Hedon which I like to sit on and have a sly smoke when my missus thinks I am out walking the dog. That is what public money is for, not for a private business.
End of story (unless you are a little slow on the uptake of the facts regarding how the KC Stadium came about).
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| Quote ="Digger_the_Dog"There is one. The KC STADIUM. I also know of a Craven PARK.
If you want to include Costello I will admit Hull can cope with 1 proper stadium and one dump but three is not needed.
The fact is Rovers need to fund their own expansion not the people of Hull.
I am glad my Council Tax goes towards nice flowers in Hornsea and an excellent bench in Hedon which I like to sit on and have a sly smoke when my missus thinks I am out walking the dog. That is what public money is for, not for a private business.
End of story (unless you are a little slow on the uptake of the facts regarding how the KC Stadium came about).'"
Millions, if not billions of public money is spent every year in the UK on private businesses by both local and national government. This is hardly a new phenomenon.
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| Quote ="Digger_the_Dog"There is one. The KC STADIUM. I also know of a Craven PARK.
If you want to include Costello I will admit Hull can cope with 1 proper stadium and one dump but three is not needed.
=#000000The fact is Rovers need to fund their own expansion not the people of Hull.
I am glad my Council Tax goes towards nice flowers in Hornsea and an excellent bench in Hedon which I like to sit on and have a sly smoke when my missus thinks I am out walking the dog. That is what public money is for, =#FF0000not for a private business.
End of story (unless you are a little slow on the uptake of the facts regarding how the KC Stadium came about).'"
dude you are a hypocrite mate
.. fact
kc paid for by 43million of public funding from the sale of shares from kc owned by hcc.
this was then public funding.
43 million was then spent on the building of the kc.... fact
two teams use and have earned profit from the use of this stadium.... fact
both these two teams are private businesses...FACT
so both teams have earned profits on the back of public funding..FACT
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DID HULL FC PAY FOR THEIR OWN EXPANSION ?
no they didn`t...... fact
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so please before opening your mouth do think things through.
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| Quote ="hkrdavidhkr"dude you are a hypocrite mate
.. fact
kc paid for by 43million of public funding from the sale of shares from kc owned by hcc.
this was then public funding.
43 million was then spent on the building of the kc.... fact
two teams use and have earned profit from the use of this stadium.... fact
both these two teams are private businesses...FACT
so both teams have earned profits on the back of public funding..FACT
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DID HULL FC PAY FOR THEIR OWN EXPANSION ?
no they didn`t...... fact
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so please before opening your mouth do think things through.'"
Very one sided.
Hull FC have paid for their own expansion. Not one penny of Taxpayers money has gone into Hull FC via the KC Stadium. Hull pay for the use of the facility. FACT and Rovers rejected the same offer.
FWIW I think the council should invest in Craven Park. But the WHOLE Stadium should be for public and community use and a committee similar to the SMC should be set up to run the facility.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Very one sided.
Hull FC have paid for their own expansion. Not one penny of Taxpayers money has gone into Hull FC via the KC Stadium. Hull pay for the use of the facility. FACT and Rovers rejected the same offer.
FWIW I think the council should invest in Craven Park. But the WHOLE Stadium should be for public and community use and a committee similar to the SMC should be set up to run the facility.'"
did hull fc pay for their own expansion in 1999?
of course money goes into hull fc from taxpayers via the kc....... and it generates profits.... its called gate receipts or had you forgot about this.
sp please dont give me the "Not one penny of Taxpayers money has gone into Hull FC via the KC Stadium."
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| Public money being wasted on private companies, I don't know. Shall we turn a blind eye on the 750k that was spent on the Boulevard for the council to buy the ground, which was the amount to a penny that Hull Fc had debts of before the merger. The self same Boulevard that has sat for years serving very little purpose before being sold for a loss to someone trying to turn it in to a dog track, before someone had the bright idea of, tell you what, lets knock it down.
All the clubs in this city have had help from the local authority and it appears it's now Rovers turn again on the 'circle of life' of handouts.
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