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| i think all the tackling we had to do at the end of the first half took too much out of the side, we looked shot 2nd half with Saints players running through us at will.
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| =#FF0000[size=150Serious post-mortem on this thread, from here on in.[/size
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| Quote ="General Zod."
Leeds
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Quote ="blakeysrobin"Ignore the rabid newbies. Fc will improve but Rovers WILL make the 6.'"
Quote ="General Zod."We're the Daddies in this town and that's just the way it is - and we will prove it for a 3rd successive year you fools...'"
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| saints were good tho'!!!!!!
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"=#FF0000[size=150Serious post-mortem on this thread, from here on in.[/size'"
Trying to be netural, Rovers have a very poor pack. Galea and Newton are very very good players, the rest not so much. When Rovers' are on top, they have enough to score points e.g. against Crusaders and Quins however when they're up against it the forwards don't get the team up the pitch well enough. It can also be suggested that Dobson and the team in generals long kicking game is poor. Has Morgan improved your team from last year? IMO no. Cook is poor, Ratu is poor. I think you definitely needed another forward however you also needed something other than Dobson in attack too so getting rid of Cooke maybe wasn't a great idea.
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"Trying to be netural, Rovers have a very poor pack. Galea and Newton are very very good players, the rest not so much. When Rovers' are on top, they have enough to score points e.g. against Crusaders and Quins however when they're up against it the forwards don't get the team up the pitch well enough. It can also be suggested that Dobson and the team in generals long kicking game is poor. Has Morgan improved your team from last year? IMO no. Cook is poor, Ratu is poor. I think you definitely needed another forward however you also needed something other than Dobson in attack too so getting rid of Cooke maybe wasn't a great idea.'"
your wasted on here arent you?
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| Quote ="tonylRobin"your wasted on here arent you?
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Do you disagree?
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| Saints were good but:
Upto Pryce knocking the ball out of Cockaynes hands which resulted in them getting another set of 6 and scoring you were right in that game. I thought you were murdered by the ref. The Cockayne sin bin im not sure on. Judging by the knobs in the commentary box he had to go but i really didnt think there was that much in it.
Fisher was daft as you had been warned so he should have made sure he kept them down but on the other hand some of the tackles from Saints were no different from what you were getting pinged for.
Dont get me wrong i dont think you would have won but the scoreline was definately not a reflection of your team at the moment.
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"Do you disagree?'"
no not at all, im just saying talk about stating the obvious.
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| Quote ="tonylRobin"no not at all, im just saying talk about stating the obvious.'"
Well if it's that obvious why didn't your coach sort it out in the off season? He's getting paid god knows how much and he's brought in poor players.
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| On radio roverside just now,Jason Netherton blaming bus breaking down.
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| you bring players in who you think will do a good job for you, not because there poor players, we know now that Cook isnt very good and that Ratu hasnt done anything either, but Morgan must have thought they could do a job when he signed them.
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| Quote ="tonylRobin"you bring players in who you think will do a good job for you, not because there poor players, we know now that Cook isnt very good and that Ratu hasnt done anything either, but Morgan must have thought they could do a job when he signed them.'"
Well ofcourse he did, but do you think his transfer policy was correct? Adding players who weren't really proven super league players?
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| Quote ="Bubbashrimp"On radio roverside just now,Jason Netherton blaming bus breaking down.
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Justin saying they'll be better when Colbon and Webster are back.
Were Saints not impacted by injuries at all tonight or did they play 6 players 20 or younger for the fun of it?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Justin saying they'll be better when Colbon and Webster are back.
Were Saints not impacted by injuries at all tonight or did they play 6 players 20 or younger for the fun of it?
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They're hardly pivotal players either. Sure they'll tighten up the backline and allow Newton to return to the second row but more worrying would be the performances of players like Briscoe/Fox who look shadows of the players they were last year. The last try was terrible defending with 3 of them going for the same kick.
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"Well ofcourse he did, but do you think his transfer policy was correct? Adding players who weren't really proven super league players?'"
with hindsight i bet Morgan wouldnt have signed them no, just as Hull wouldnt have signed Hutch and Adam Dykes either, all coaches sign poor players sometimes. We just have to get on with what we have, and keep putting up with all the crap from you lot after every away game.......
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Justin saying they'll be better when Colbon and Webster are back.
Were Saints not impacted by injuries at all tonight or did they play 6 players 20 or younger for the fun of it?
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Saints will also be better, frighteningly, when they get players back. Happily we won't have to play them! Well, barring an unlikely match up in the play-offs. Saints also have an established and successful youth system - we don't yet.
Painful as watching that was, you have to admire that youthful Saints team. Something to aspire to, if nought else.
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| Quote ="coyleahkr"I really dont know what morgan has to do get the sack,it's his team with only one player missing.Alot of people pay a lot of money to follow the team and that is how they are rewarded.No stand off,the only decent hooker we have doesn't get enough game time(hodgson),to much favouritsm.In short no hope while god is the coach,this is not a knee jerk reaction as this is 4 away games on the trot this has happened as well as being the only team to lose to catalans in france.NOT GOOD ENOUGH!'"
The team is not the best and he is having to deal with a board who have slammed the brakes on spending in order to stop the club going bust.
When he was given full cap to spend he got 4th. He is having it trimmed all of the time and is still running at 60% win ratio which is what he told me he was targeting this year with a squad containing so many young English kids.
The points against figure is alarming but ffs you lot do get over excited about stuff.
Leeds have been promoted in fairyball you know, you could always go back to watching them?
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| Quote ="tonylRobin"with hindsight i bet Morgan wouldnt have signed them no, just as Hull wouldnt have signed Hutch and Adam Dykes either, all coaches sign poor players sometimes. We just have to get on with what we have, and keep putting up with all the crap from you lot after every away game.......'"
Quote ="tonylRobin"with hindsight i bet Morgan wouldnt have signed them no, just as Hull wouldnt have signed Hutch and Adam Dykes either, all coaches sign poor players sometimes. We just have to get on with what we have, and keep putting up with all the crap from you lot after every away game.......'"
Yep but Morgan's signed most then his fair share of duffs:
Daniel Fitzhenry
David Mills
Nick Fozzard
Garett Crossman
And then a few who are debatable:
Paul Cooke
Chev Walker
Jake Webster
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"Yep but Morgan's signed most then his fair share of duffs:
Daniel Fitzhenry
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And then a few who are debatable:
=#000080Paul Cooke
Chev Walker
Jake Webster
Mike Ratu
Joel Cinton
Scott Wheeldon
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Now, now - you can't blame Morgan for Cooke.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"eusa_naughty.gif Now, now - you can't blame Morgan for Cooke.
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Correct.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Saints will also be better, frighteningly, when they get players back. Happily we won't have to play them! Well, barring an unlikely match up in the play-offs. Saints also have an established and successful youth system - we don't yet.
Painful as watching that was, [uyou have to admire that youthful Saints team. Something to aspire to, if nought else[/u.'"
They are sublime when they get on a roll like that. How the game should be played undoubtedly. I hope they go on to win the title - as you say they bring shedloads of talent through and these young players aren't treated with kid gloves but given the confidence to step up by the senior players fronting up. Outstanding.
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| If you must post like that, use the trolling thread. MR.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Justin saying they'll be better when Colbon and Webster are back.
Were Saints not impacted by injuries at all tonight or did they play 6 players 20 or younger for the fun of it?
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Who's worried about Saints and we will be better when we get our two back in the team.
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| Quote ="tonylRobin"you bring players in who you think will do a good job for you, not because there poor players, we know now that Cook isnt very good and that Ratu hasnt done anything either, but Morgan must have thought they could do a job when he signed them.'"
Hmm. Or just a case of how different it is when the money dries up?
No time for Morgs the Petulant (unless he's on National telly, of course (then he's Morgs the Perpetual), not mere local media interviews) but Hudge&co's indiscriminate spending explosion in your first season has done for you, I think.
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