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| Quote ="BOYD2"Full pack off Aussie
your coach is a joke, FFS Morgan give the british boys a go.'"
tell me, what part of the antipodes are josh hodgson, scott wheeldon and liam watts from????
incidently wakey had 9 foreigners in their squad against rovers 8, does that make john kear a joke also?
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| Quote cod'ead:Wrote..Because ever since the publication of The Laws of the Game of Rugby League, there has to be a reason to disallow a try. If you can't find a reason to disallow it, it is allowed. Now that has served the game well for over 100 years'"
As was the case the week before last against castleford for Watts try, perhaps you should enlighten some of your own fans as to the rules.
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| Quote ="Kosh"He did.
Unfortunately for him the ball had already touched the whitewash a second earlier.'"
I knew he would have done in your eyes, he didn't but I knew he would in your eyes
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| Got exactly what we deserved, errors, indiscipline and coughing the ball up equals losing the game.
I'm not going to single anyone out (at the moment, might do later!) as a few people had terrible games but what's most disappointing for me was after awful performances against Wigan and Huddersfield we looked to be getting on track last week. We then serve up the worst forty minutes of the season.
Credit has to go to Wakefield. They hardly made any mistakes had a very efficient game plan that the whole team stuck to and in Tronc and Brough had the two best players. Seriously, how many times did we have to start sets from our own ten metre line? Brough murdered us, bisecting the winger and full back, kicking on the fourth tackle from second receiver and even getting the ball from acting half and hammering it down field. Excellent stuff, if I'd have been watching him do it against any other team!
Referee had a decent game, hopefully he'll continue to develop.
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| Quote ="Plastic Scrummers"Does anyone else have a problem with this benefit of the doubt rubbish ! Who's idea was this stupid rule. Its either a try or it isn't. If you can't see the try being scored then it's no try. Only in rugby league could this be deemed a good rule.'"
I prefer the Refs Call used in Australia. If the video is inconclusive, let the ref make the decision based on his gut feeling from the field. Maybe that goes on informally, as you wouldn't want to be in a position where the on-field ref would have disallowed a try and then the video ref gives it because he can't tell.
If I can understand how the try can be given, I don't have too much of a problem with it, and I could see how Thaler, the Wakefield resident, fan, and previous awarder of a penalty try against Hull KR, the only one I have ever seen live, thought it was on the line. If his mike had been turned on, you would have heard him shout "get in!" as Tronc barged forward.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"I knew he would have done in your eyes, he didn't but I knew he would in your eyes'"
Meh.
It was more of a try that your last gasp winner against Cas. Not sure what the issue is TBH.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Meh.
It was more of a try that your last gasp winner against Cas. Not sure what the issue is TBH.'"
We grounded the ball they didn't but like you say there is no issue
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| Quote ="pmh"Got exactly what we deserved, errors, indiscipline and coughing the ball up equals losing the game.
[uI'm not going to single anyone out [/u(at the moment, might do later!) as a few people had terrible games but what's most disappointing for me was after awful performances against Wigan and Huddersfield we looked to be getting on track last week. We then serve up the worst forty minutes of the season.
Credit has to go to Wakefield. They hardly made any mistakes had a very efficient game plan that the whole team stuck to and in Tronc and Brough had the two best players. Seriously, how many times did we have to start sets from our own ten metre line? Brough murdered us, bisecting the winger and full back, kicking on the fourth tackle from second receiver and even getting the ball from acting half and hammering it down field. Excellent stuff, if I'd have been watching him do it against any other team!
Referee had a decent game, hopefully he'll continue to develop.'"
It was a collective failure, with nearly everybody contributing. Briscoe (of all people) has his own thread, Colbon's knock-on, 2 from Cockayne, Fox's too (although the game was over as a contest by then), Webster gobbing of, Dobson's kicks dead in goal, harmless kicks when a bomb was needed to take the concept of patiently building pressure to an absurd extreme. The forwards were more solid without looking especially dangerous. Watts' penalty showed a serious lack of nouse - Childs lets a fair amount go at the ruck (not to the point of being silly and was consistent for both sides, which is the main thing), but why take the pee, especially on the fifth?
The video ref call was irrelevant to me - we were gone by then. I'd rather have it a game where it doesn't decide the result.
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| Players thought it was won at half time. It wasn't. Simples.
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| I also noticed how poor your drop outs were. The got to your 30 metre on tackle 1 every time. Yet when they dropped out you only just crossed halfway.
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| Quote ="BESTY"I also noticed how poor your drop outs were. The got to your 30 metre on tackle 1 every time. Yet when they dropped out you only just crossed halfway.'"
We must be the worst in the league at those and always seem to have been, dobson and Cooke don't seem to get any distance and even when webbo was here he was worse, surely a bit of practice wouldn't go a miss.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"icon_eek.gif
18-6 up, wind at our backs, Wakefield with a man in the bin.
35 minutes in and Rovers have managed to do 1 good thing - Dobson's 40-20. Webster then shouts abuse at the ref on the first tackle from the scrum.
Oh well, only Leeds next week.
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Unprofessional, but you could see why, the Wakey players were preventing him from playing the ball untill they all got back on side and the ref ignored it. The same ref that in the first half nailed us for the same.
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| Quote ="barham red"We must be the worst in the league at those and always seem to have been, dobson and Cooke don't seem to get any distance and even when webbo was here he was worse, surely a bit of practice wouldn't go a miss.'"
Cooke's are good, but he rarely got the chance. It took him long enough to convince JM to let him kick to touch again, after the privilege was bizarrely given to Dobson when he arrived. Dobson has a good kicking game but his drop outs definitely aren't great.
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| Quote ="BESTY"I also noticed how poor your drop outs were. The got to your 30 metre on tackle 1 every time. Yet when they dropped out you only just crossed halfway.'"
Same as our penalty kicks to touch, we get about 10 yards, leaving a lot of drives to make the ground up, when a good 'hoof' would save a lot of unecassary work from the players.
My wife has a season ticket for the first time, so including last night she has seen Rovers around 6 times, she commented on how 'predictable' we are and how the opposition seem to vary their game plan, compared to us. I told her she was talking crap, we do vary our plays, sometimes we have four drives then a rubbish kick
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| Nice to read reasoned and unbiased posts from fans, must have logged into the wrong site
You should really blame everything/everyone else on Rlfans.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"
If I can understand how the try can be given, I don't have too much of a problem with it, and I could see how Thaler, the Wakefield resident, fan, and previous awarder of a penalty try against Hull KR, the only one I have ever seen live, thought it was on the line. If his mike had been turned on, =#BF0000you would have heard him shout "get in!" as Tronc barged forward.
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From where I stand my view of the big screen isn't good enough to really tell, looked as if it probably was a try, certainly enough for benefit of the doubt (didn't make any difference to the result) and once that bent get Thaler had pretended to look at it forty times (whilst someone got his car engine running) he was always going to give it.
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| Quote ="rover49"Same as our penalty kicks to touch, we get about 10 yards, leaving a lot of drives to make the ground up, when a good 'hoof' would save a lot of unecassary work from the players.
My wife has a season ticket for the first time, so including last night she has seen Rovers around 6 times, she commented on how 'predictable' we are and how the opposition seem to vary their game plan, compared to us. I told her she was talking crap, we do vary our plays, sometimes we have four drives then a rubbish kick
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surely you don't think the inside ball to vella isn't pure genius, fools em every time.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"Nice to read reasoned and unbiased posts from fans, must have logged into the wrong site
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| Quote ="pmh"We seem to have got rid of the majority of planks that blighted our first season by giving it large on the VT, unfortunately I reputation now precedes us, we're not such a bad lot now a days. Apart from me, [uI'm a right spanner[/u.'"
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| Quote ="pmh"S.
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Depending on where he parked, he probably wouldn't even need to ask...
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"Nice to read reasoned and unbiased posts from fans, must have logged into the wrong site
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