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| Quote ="R.B.A"I would suggest that with 3 out of last seasons top 4 sides in the league ladder losing 50% of their matches thus far it could well be argued that the better sides are underperforming..'"
last year was not a true reflection due to the underperforming
This year and the previous 20 are proof of that
just for the record I meant Hull, Warrington, Wigan & Bradford
Bradford being the only one not to regain form
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| Quote ="Willa"thing is this year the better sides aren't under peforming
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Leeds, 2 from 4!
Some poor sides appear to be over-performing, but you get alot of that early in the season!
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| Quote ="Willa"last year was not a true reflection due to the underperforming
This year and the previous 20 are proof of that
just for the record I meant Hull, Warrington, Wigan & Bradford
Bradford being the only one not to regain form'"
Unbelievable.
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| Quote ="Willa"You started it by bringing up Fox's stats. I gave a like for like stat blowing yours away. Of course wingers are going to have better stats than forwards
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I only brought Fox's stats up to explain to Mr Z-H that we have players acheiving over 7m/carry. Wingers will not always have better stats than forwards, depends on what their coach asks then to do. Morgan always works his wingers from DH early in the sets. He did this with Byron Ford & Jon Steel back in NL and has even recruited wingers (e.g Colbon) who can do this effectively. Not my preferred style, but he's the gaffer and seems to know what he's doing!
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| Quote ="Willa"last year was not a true reflection due to the underperforming
This year and the previous 20 are proof of that
just for the record I meant Hull, Warrington, Wigan & Bradford
Bradford being the only one not to regain form'"
Just remind us all how many Grand Final wins these 2 giants of the game have between them?
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| Are we allowed to call each other EDIT now if we do not agree..
Now that's unbelievable...
No we are not.
R.B.A
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Are we allowed to call each other EDIT now if we do not agree..
Now that's unbelievable...
No we are not.
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Thanks for the clarification, bit boring calling some-one an edit any-way
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| Quote ="The Goroka Gene-ius"Just remind us all how many Grand Final wins these 2 giants of the game have between them?'"
They're the only 2 sides outside of the big 4 ever to win anything. One of them has made an infinite amount of grand finals more than your club.
Again we're point scoring, again you started it
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| Quote ="Willa"They're the only 2 sides outside of the big 4 ever to win anything. One of them has made an infinite amount of grand finals more than your club.
Again we're point scoring, again you started it
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Did I?
Quote ="Willa"last year was not a true reflection due to the underperforming
This year and the previous 20 are proof of that
just for the record I meant Hull, Warrington, Wigan & Bradford
Bradford being the only one not to regain form'"
I think you need to read up on the definition of "infinite", cos it sure ain't 1.
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| Quote ="The Goroka Gene-ius"I look forward to FC announcing him as their marquee signing in 2091!'"
You'll be dead
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| Quote ="The Goroka Gene-ius"Did I?
I think you need to read up on the definition of "infinite", cos it sure ain't 1.'"
so what number would you times zero by to get one?
As a FACTor we are infinately better
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"You'll be dead'"
he won't he'll be reminding us about 10-5 and that it doesn't matter if they'd never won a play-off
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| Quote ="Willa"thing is this year the better sides aren't under peforming
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Each year the better side don't under-perform... the better sides ARE the better sides.
There are however sides that should do better.... seems FC are doing better this season ... remember having this trust down my throat enough tho'... "it's a marathon not a sprint"
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| Quote ="Willa"so what number would you times zero by to get one?
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if HFC = HKR x [size=150∞[/size
then, if HKR = 0, 0 x [size=150∞[/size = 0. HFC = 0.
I'd take the plus one that TGG offered you.
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| Quote ="Willa"he won't he'll be reminding us about 10-5 and that it doesn't matter if they'd never won a play-off'"
Or you could compare league positions, Challenge cup runs and play off appearances between our clubs comparing like on like after three seasons in super league.
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| Quote ="Bertie"Or you could compare league positions, Challenge cup runs and play off appearances between our clubs comparing like on like after three seasons in super league.'"
Why? this is our 13th season. It's not our fault you weren't good enough during the vast majority of that period.
the fact remains that during the 14 years of superleague you have done better on 2 occasions and on both those occasions you have not won anything. You cannot compare previous years because circumstances were different (NO SALARY CAP)
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| Quote ="Willa"Why? this is our 13th season. It's not our fault you weren't good enough during the vast majority of that period.
the fact remains that during the 14 years of superleague you have done better on 2 occasions and on both those occasions you have not won anything. You cannot compare previous years because circumstances were different (NO SALARY CAP)'"
You can only count the years that we have been on an equal footing and so the past 3 years are the only years you can go on. Just because those years dont make you look better than us doesnt mean you can drag up the whole SL era that you have been part of! What happens if after the next 2 games you have a massive slump again like last year and once again we do better than you? Do you continue to use your "We've made a GF appearance (still not won it!) and won a CC" and then tell us we cant use the 10-5 argument because its 30yrs ago that it happened???
You Hull fans do love to contradict yourselves, I guess thats what makes West Hull "special"!!!
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| Quote ="nick hkr"You can only count the years that we have been on an equal footing and so the past 3 years are the only years you can go on.
=#0040FFWe've been on an equal footing for about 100 years. You not being in superleague was nobody's fault but Rovers
Just because those years dont make you look better than us doesnt mean you can drag up the whole SL era that you have been part of! What happens if after the next 2 games you have a massive slump again like last year and once again we do better than you?
=#0040FFThen you do better than us, what do you want me to say?
Do you continue to use your "We've made a GF appearance (still not won it!) and won a CC" and then tell us we cant use the 10-5 argument because its 30yrs ago that it happened???
=#0040FFBanter? Truth?
You Hull fans do love to contradict yourselves, I guess thats what makes West Hull "special"!!!
=#0040FFI'm from Hedon, east of Hull, so last point is pointless. Unless your saying everyone who lives at my side of the river is an inbred fool, that may be true
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| How can we be on equal footing for 100 years yet 14 years ago circumstances were different as you state.
By the way I will not look forward to 2091 now in the fear that Gordon is still alive and will drag this thread to the top of the pile to prove he was right.
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| Quote ="Basil Fawlty"Unfortunately tho' it appears you do!
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C`mon Baz,that was quite funny.
I mean,he could have said she will burn the whole place down.
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| In the unlikely event of this thread getting back on topic i will leave it open. Otherwise it is going.
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| Quote ="Willa"Why? this is our 13th season. It's not our fault you weren't good enough during the vast majority of that period.
the fact remains that during the 14 years of superleague you have done better on 2 occasions and on both those occasions you have not won anything. You cannot compare previous years because circumstances were different (NO SALARY CAP)'"
For much of our early time in SL we were operating way under the maximum salary cap due to the 50% rule, hence we were not playing on the level field that you find yourselves on now you smaller clubs are allowed to overspend. Therefore there is no reasonable comparison to be made as financially you are spending way more than we did at a comparable time in our SL lifetime
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12 Celtic Crusaders
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| Quote ="R.B.A"In the unlikely event of this thread getting back on topic i will leave it open. Otherwise it is going.'"
Sorry,couldn`t resist.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"In the unlikely event of this thread getting back on topic i will leave it open. Otherwise it is going.'"
It'll be a blood bath this Carrie thread I tell you, a blood bath.
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