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| Quote ="Pudsey Robin"I would be disapointed if we don't sign at least one prop; we're very light in the front row. I would not be too fussed if who we signed wasn't what could be classed as a world class prop; we're just very short of numbers. Unless Justin is planning on giving Mills another chance.'"
Probably 4 prop spots in a normal 17.
Vella, Wheeldon, Lovegrove, Netherton, Mills, Watts and now Beaumont is 7. Plus Newton can play there (though IMO it is a waste, as he is a better SR). A loan signing could no doubt be made if there was a real injury crisis.
The problem is 2 are very inexperinced (only one way to remedy that of course) and one fell out of favour pretty spectacularly last year. Netherton is a converted SR and perhaps a utility forward rather than an out and out prop, while Wheeldon and Lovegrove are mobile and work hard but aren't going to scare too many teams. So if Vella does miss a few games it looks a bit bare. Even when he's playing, he'd benefit from another top prop alongside him - in a perfect world. If we can't get a top prop, I think we are fine for numbers and have enough in the 2nd level.
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| Quote ="franz ferdinand"Remember the old saying? if it's not broken don't fix it.
Justin is obviously happy with the squad and believes that it is good enough to get us through again.'"
So we are not losing Fozzard, Fitzhenry, Aizue and Gene after all then?
That's OK then, if they are not leaving they won't need replacing.
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| Quote ="Dr Hfuhruhurr"Baz and Tez? Way past their best IMO.'"
Quite agree but surely younger than Fitzty and OMeeley
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| Quote ="Sheldon"are they 2 posters in your account?
which 2 props from the 4 nations? theres none available!
what i've been told from a fairly reliable source is that hudgell is so desperate to get crocker (the newly named souths captain) hes missed out on other targets. now i dont know if its true and quite frankly i aren't to bother but i'm quite happy to name my source to some people i usually converse with on these matters.
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I've been told that their offer to crocker dwarfs the pretty massive contract he agreed with us but he keeps telling them to feck off
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| Quote ="The Goroka Gene-ius"Why would we be desparate to sign another back rower, having (as you say) lost props?
If you believe that the Chairman does our recruitment, then you are deluding yourself.'"
His business plan is based around trying to get one over on Hull FC. Who do you think makes the decisions?
Anyway, if you go into next season with what you have you'll save 300 grand surely
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| Quote ="Bobbin' Along"I'm wondering if we've already written 2010 off in order to bring someone in for 2011. Without strengthening there's no way we'll come in 4th.'"
Serious question, do you think its a conscious decision to not strengthen and save cash or do you think its a decision thats been forced by certain targets turning you down? Or maybe a mix of both?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"are they 2 posters in your account?
which 2 props from the 4 nations? theres none available!
what i've been told from a fairly reliable source is that hudgell is so desperate to get crocker (the newly named souths captain) hes missed out on other targets. now i dont know if its true and quite frankly i aren't to bother but i'm quite happy to name my source to some people i usually converse with on these matters.
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Think your mixing us up with your own club. Our coach signs the players and picks the team.
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| JOEL CLINTON PAPER WORK BEEN SORTED NOW. FACT
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| Quote ="DannyManu"JOEL CLINTON PAPER WORK BEEN SORTED NOW. FACT'"
Does it make it a fact that you wrote it in capitals?
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| Quote ="DannyManu"JOEL CLINTON PAPER WORK BEEN SORTED NOW. FACT'"
On a new contract.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"His business plan is based around trying to get one over on Hull FC. Who do you think makes the decisions?
Anyway, if you go into next season with what you have you'll save 300 grand surely'"
Is that the business plan that we had to show the RFL to get a SL franchise?
Ah, that explains our 3-year licence then!
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| Quote ="The Goroka Gene-ius"If you believe that the Chairman does our recruitment, then you are deluding yourself.'"
If you think Hudgell didn't recruit Paul Cooke, then you are deluding yourself. Do you really think he was Morgan's choice?
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| Quote ="Robins11"www.sporthull.co.uk/hullkr/news/HULL-KR-Morgan-happy-squad/article-1487400-detail/article.html
Would you be worried if we didn't make any new signings before the season starts? Personally I think we are light in the forwards and it's essential we get one quality one in. It would surprise me if Vella plays a full injury free season and if we have another injury on top of that, we are starting to look a bit thin and inexperienced. Dobson and Cooke would have trouble getting the time and space to play behind a pack with Netherton and, dare I say, Mills as starting props.'"
Don't worry - Hudgell has already spoken of 2 "top class" signings, and we're all agreed that the incoming players so far don't fit into that bracket. Plus GML said recently that two players are coming in at the top end of the squad.
This isn't the first time Rovers have declared recruitment as good as finished then brought someone in - just a media tactic to create an "unexpected boost", like overstating injuries etc.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"If you think Hudgell didn't recruit Paul Cooke, then you are deluding yourself. Do you really think he was Morgan's choice?
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Paul Cooke recruited Paul Cooke. IIRC Rovers had nothing to do with it (according to the RFL)
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Don't worry - Hudgell has already spoken of 2 "top class" signings, and we're all agreed that the incoming players so far don't fit into that bracket. Plus GML said recently that two players are coming in at the top end of the squad.
This isn't the first time Rovers have declared recruitment as good as finished then brought someone in - just a media tactic to create an "unexpected boost", like overstating injuries etc.
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You'd know all about that, woudln't you.
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| Quote ="GJB"You'd know all about that, woudln't you.'"
There's a difference between listing injuries that actually prevent players playing, and declaring a multitude of players doubtful in a post match interview a week before an important game to create the age old "unexpected boost" on the Thursday when they're all miraculously fit. Morgan never seems to tire of it.
Anyway, back on topic. The names in the frame right now seem to be Graham, Clinton and Crocker. Which 2 from these 3?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"There's a difference between listing injuries that actually prevent players playing, and declaring a multitude of players doubtful in a post match interview a week before an important game to create the age old "unexpected boost" on the Thursday when they're all miraculously fit. Morgan never seems to tire of it.
Anyway, back on topic. The names in the frame right now seem to be Graham, Clinton and Crocker. Which 2 from these 3?
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Whose frame would that be exactly?
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| Quote ="GJB"Whose frame would that be exactly?'"
The frame of messageboard rumour and speculation. Since GML has said there are 2 senior players coming in and these names keep cropping up (Clinton having been identified as a target in the HDM), why shouldn't it be two of them?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"The frame of messageboard rumour and speculation. Since GML has said there are 2 senior players coming in and these names keep cropping up (Clinton having been identified as a target in the HDM), why shouldn't it be two of them?
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Because two of them are completely ridiculous suggestions. Meaning only one of them is remotely likely.
Ya dig?
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| Quote ="GJB"Because two of them are completely ridiculous suggestions. Meaning only one of them is remotely likely.
Ya dig?'"
So it's Clinton plus one other senior player.
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| Quote ="Bertie"Think your mixing us up with your own club. Our coach signs the players and picks the team.'"
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"So it's Clinton plus one other senior player.
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Friday evening and you spend it on the Rovers forum, go get yourself a fella or some friends to hang out with, it is rather sad.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"If you think Hudgell didn't recruit Paul Cooke, then you are deluding yourself. Do you really think he was Morgan's choice?
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Have you a link to this ramble or was it just the voices again
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| As it stands I'm very happy with the make up of the squad. We have good cover in all areas with a good mixture of youth and experience. However, if you dont have the Props to lead your team, then the rest are going to struggle. Currently we have:
Michael Vella
Liam Watts
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Rich Beaumont
This to me is not a set of Props for a team looking to maintain its place within the top six, which imo will be the aim next season. Im wondering if our inability to offload certain players (i.e. Mills) is hindering us in bringing in a new player.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Serious question, do you think its a conscious decision to not strengthen and save cash or do you think its a decision thats been forced by certain targets turning you down? Or maybe a mix of both?'"
I think there was and may remain a desire to bring in 1 or 2 high end players (I've always assumed the second would mean letting somebody else go). There aren't many players that fit the bill, in terms of quality, position, longevity etc. So yeah, if a couple of targets fell through there may be no suitable second choice. On the upside we are taking the long-term 'SmokeyTA approach' to developing the squad (currently looking like no overseas signings in two consecutive recruitment cycles), which is financially prudent and will make the RFL smile on us a little more come franchise renewal. There is no doubting though that a top or semi-competent but powerful prop would improve us/give another option. We look a bit one paced in the front row as it stands.
Quote ="Mrs Barista"Morgan never seems to tire of it.
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