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| Quote ="rhinoms"It's a chance to give a raw kid with plenty of potential a chance at SL level and he's a right centre along with delaney whilst watkins and senior are left centres along with ratu although keith has done stints in the back-row this year and watkins is also comfortable on the wing.
It adds depth and competition for places whilst not putting too much pressure on the youngsters to perform at the very best straight away.
In Ratu's case it seems his confidence is sky high and he sees it as a better chance at more 1st team games at Rovers and i also suspect he's been offered a better contract also.'"
So big for his boots or worth the contract??......I would imagine if worth the extra £££'s you would of paid??
Seems strange that in todays climate, homegrown quota's etc etc that Leeds would let a future star go?
On the otherside of the coin, if he is worth the dollar, who's place is he taking?
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| Another good young british player, Maybe moulded to replace Jake Webster who is out of contract at the end of 2010 and the quota yet again decreasing.
Lets see if Justin can get the best out of him
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| I see this as a step forward in answer to Stan.
Ratu has potential to become a top class centre and possibly see's the development and chance Welham has been given as a good place to come.
As he's a left centre Welham is going to have to be very good to keep his place and I also see this as competition for Foxy because he does seem to have it easy right now with nobody good enough to challenge his No.2 shirt.
Webster I cant see staying past the end of his contract, he's a very good player but as we need to reduce the quota at the end of next year someone like Ratu gives us more options for that position even though its the right hand side.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Another good young british player, Maybe moulded to replace Jake Webster who is out of contract at the end of 2010 and the quota yet again decreasing.
Lets see if Justin can get the best out of him'"
Is the Craig Hall deal off, then?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Is the Craig Hall deal off, then?
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Who knows, We can't talk to him until September 1st
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| Quote ="nick hkr"I see this as a step forward in answer to Stan.
Ratu has potential to become a top class centre and possibly see's the development and chance Welham has been given as a good place to come.
As he's a left centre Welham is going to have to be very good to keep his place and I also see this as competition for Foxy because he does seem to have it easy right now with nobody good enough to challenge his No.2 shirt.
Webster I cant see staying past the end of his contract, he's a very good player but as we need to reduce the quota at the end of next year someone like Ratu gives us more options for that position even though its the right hand side.'"
Cheers Nick, nice to see a decent reply.
Personally can't help but wonder what he brings to KR, who he is replacing and why Leeds are letting him go.
One worth watching!!
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| He's featured at right centre for Leeds
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| Quote ="Stan Butler"So big for his boots or worth the contract??......I would imagine if worth the extra £££'s you would of paid??
Seems strange that in todays climate, homegrown quota's etc etc that Leeds would let a future star go?
On the otherside of the coin, if he is worth the dollar, who's place is he taking?'"
We've no problems with our quota and the cap is proving that you can't keep every player you produce.
We also have a very rigid wage structure which GH won't break for anyone.
The way ratu sees it is he's better off at rovers both contract and playing 1st team wise and good luck to the lad.
Afterall he isn't joining the SL timebomb that is HFC is he???
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"icon_lol.gif Surely signing Hall in a year's time would be a kick in the teeth for Ratu?
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Why, are you only allowed one player for every position?
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| Quote ="rhinoms"We've no problems with our quota and the cap is proving that you can't keep every player you produce.
We also have a very rigid wage structure which GH won't break for anyone.
The way ratu sees it is he's better off at rovers both contract and playing 1st team wise and good luck to the lad.
Afterall he isn't joining the SL timebomb that is HFC is he???'"
Timebomb??.....Exploded a while ago chief!!!
So Leeds wouldn't pay him what he thought he was worth??
Or give him a first team slot?
Why?
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| And you should know by now, If Justin decides he wants Craig Hall he'll get Craig Hall
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| Quote ="Stan Butler"Timebomb??.....Exploded a while ago chief!!!
So Leeds wouldn't pay him what he thought he was worth??
Or give him a first team slot?
Why?'"
Same reason you wouldn't with Briscoe i'd bet
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"And you should know by now, If Justin decides he wants Craig Hall he'll get Craig Hall
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| Quote ="Stan Butler"Timebomb??.....Exploded a while ago chief!!!
So Leeds wouldn't pay him what he thought he was worth??
Or give him a first team slot?
Why?'"
There are systems in place at leeds that have worked well for us and obviously ratu see's this as an oppurtunity to play more 1st team games and earn a good SL wage he isn't the 1st and won't be the last.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Same reason you wouldn't with Briscoe i'd bet'"
He got greedy, came back and begged, and was told to fook off.
What has he gained by going to Rovers??
Paying players above their capabilities will bite you in the arris as it has us over the last few years.
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| Quote ="Stan Butler"He got greedy, came back and begged, and was told to fook off.
What has he gained by going to Rovers??
Paying players above their capabilities will bite you in the arris as it has us over the last few years.'"
International honours i'd say
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| Quote ="rhinoms"There are systems in place at leeds that have worked well for us and obviously ratu see's this as an oppurtunity to play more 1st team games and earn a good SL wage he isn't the 1st and won't be the last.'"
Systems in place??
Can you elaborate?
Do you mean not paying over the odds, on a lengthy deal, limiting you going forward?
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| Quote ="Stan Butler"Systems in place??
Can you elaborate?
Do you mean not paying over the odds, on a lengthy deal, limiting you going forward?'"
I'd imagine that having Senior, Coady, Watkins and Delaney signed up means they don't need him. Much the same with Ashley Gibson, simply not room under the salary cap or he's elected to take a two year deal with us as opposed to a one year deal with them
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| Quote ="Stan Butler"Systems in place??
Can you elaborate?
Do you mean not paying over the odds, on a lengthy deal, limiting you going forward?'"
This is similar to fox,murrell and scruton where we had a good squad and that's taken into account when new deals are negotiated.
Sometimes players accept the terms and stay to fight for a spot and on other occasions they accept the better offer and leave it's that straight forward and although like i said before i'd of liked him to stay and it could bite us GH has been very successfull in running the club this way.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Another good young british player, Maybe moulded to replace Jake Webster who is out of contract at the end of 2010 and the quota yet again decreasing.
Lets see if Justin can get the best out of him'"
or even more plausible, cover for chev who is likely to be out all next season
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| Quote ="hkrdavidhkr"or even more plausible, cover for chev who is likely to be out all next season'"
Do you see Chev being offered a new deal?
If he was to be paid off, which is a possibility, I should imagine the pay off and Ratu's wages won't be too far off....which in fairness is probably good business as at least you get a player on the pitch for the same money.
If paying both.............
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| Quote ="Stan Butler"Do you see Chev being offered a new deal?
If he was to be paid off, which is a possibility, I should imagine the pay off and Ratu's wages won't be too far off....which in fairness is probably good business as at least you get a player on the pitch for the same money.
If paying both.............'"
they can also just de register him and then give him a 1yr contract if he makes it back to prove himself worthy of another contract
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| Quote ="hkrdavidhkr"they can also just de register him and then give him a 1yr contract if he makes it back to prove himself worthy of another contract'"
How does the de-registering work??....would that make Chev a free agent??
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| Quote ="Stan Butler"How does the de-registering work??....would that make Chev a free agent??
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yes. but i would feel that they may negotiate some form of informal agreement for him to see his last year out, hence the 1 yr option when back from injury
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