You may have missed Briscoe but you don't miss him as much as we do!!

You're not kidding. McCarthy-Scarsbrook must have made more metres than the rest of our props put together (though I thought wheeldon had a good game). We've lost the forward for the last 3 weeks running. We need Vella and Lovegrove back as it's clear we don't have the strength in depth.

Yeah I agree, was a very soft try to concede at the time (although it was well worked). Having said that, I dont think having Briscoe in the team last night would have made you won, far too many individual errors and Quins were just the better team.

I agree, although I have been shot down in flames in the past for saying it.

Played a blinder for England.

(Got my kneeling mat Captain Dave.

)

That's it Bart keep the faith

True

Sometimes you have to be honest.
(Even if it means getting the bird from you lot.)

Nah. Every English Super league club had player(s) representing their country in the French International didn't they



So no one can use that for an excuse, can they.

i must say yes we missed brisco and fox colbon and so one but they broke the line down the middle where our regular players where we looked tired as a team and very weak quins played well and were always on there toes sidestepping we got beat simple as its not the end for us we will kick on. leeds lost a few on the bounce and no1 wrote them off we will just have to take it and get on with it no1 wanted us there anyways so we have to prove them wrong again i arnt worrying still a long way to go

Well........................

Did they?

I would think so, especially the clubs who have been in Super League for a long time and have had every chance to develop young British talent.

I would rather be able to say that we had 10 Young British players able to play SL that we brought through ourselves than have 2 playing for England who someone else had to develop for us.

Your obsession with Hull has to stop, it's pathetic.

Yeah! Renouf was a terrible back who wore a scrum cap

Are you sure ??? who did FC have ?????

At least Hull didnt have to field a weakened team which explains why they wo............... oh yeah

I stand to be corrected, and like yourself would like to see more British players in the game but perhaps you could point to any other S.L. club who have achieved the above after just two and half seasons ?

Did Fox have any England caps before he joined Rovers or did his development stop two seasons ago......and he has suddenly been given the chance. !!

It's not the players we had out that were the problem, it was how it was handled it that became the issue. No need to shuffle 7 or 8 players to make up for 4 missing, just play players in there specialist positions...

I’ve never understood those who think overseas wingers are a waste of a quota place. All Fridays game did was highlight what a massive contribution wingers & full-backs make these days.

Check out the Opta stats & see how many wingers & fullbacks are in the most meters category. Virtually all of these play for teams at the top end of the table. 5 of the 6 wingers at Rovers, Quins & Giants (the “surprise” teams of the season) are in there. This isn’t coincidence.

Kick returns & exit sets are the most important thing wingers & full-backs bring to a side (something totally lost on the army of Calderwood lovers down the road). If these guys can make good ground on the first 2-3 tackles they allow their forwards to conserve energy as well as getting the side into an attacking position. Scoring tries & being defensively solid is just a bonus.

With no kick return on Friday Quins found it too easy to kick early & pin us down. For me Briscoe, Fox & Colborn are the biggest single reason for us being where we are in the table.

I wouldn't, because one club sits 3rd in the league and the other one will finish in the bottom 3.

MY darkest days as a Rovers fan were when we had a team full of "local lads" and it was at those times when I cut ties with sentiment towards players because I was sick of watching shocking players taking us nowhere - afterall, they don't owe me anything and I don't owe them anything.

What is the game actually about? - winning trophies or bragging about how many "local lads" you've got in your team even if you're lurking around in the bottom of the table?

As long as every player who pulls on the Rovers shirt plays with pride, passion and commitment and also understand what Hull Kingston Rovers is about and stands for, then I don't care where they come from - they'll get my unconditional support.

Thats the biggest plie of self important clap trap ever.

Not at all.

GML and GJB would verify I certainly don't view myself as "self-important". If I was so self-important I wouldn't give £104 a year to the Rovers lottery, set up specifically to aid youth development. It's just I've had a gut full of this "local lad" talk and it bores me to tears.

When Rovers were in a CVA and kicking round the NFP, I used to tell the FC fans back then about how many local lads we had in our team whilst they had a team full of Aussies and all I got was "We're in Super League" you're not... blah blah blah".

Now the shoe is on the other foot, the FC fans trot out the same old . They (and some sections of the RL media), talk about that their team is "under-achieving" when the harsh reality is that they are the 3rd worst squad in the SL and this will be validated by their end of the season league position. But I suppose they can rattle the old chesnut of "having a team full of local lads".

Take Websters try against Wire - that is why I go to watch RL, tries like that; Murrell to Fitzyhenry to Dobson to Webster. If you look at the equivalent players in FC's side ie; Washbrook / Houghton / Thorman / Whitng the reality is that type of try could never happen from those 4 players because they simply don't have the necessary skills.

In an ideal world I'd love to see the team full of local lads which is why I shell out my hard-earned cash for the Rovers Lottery because I understand it is a necessity for long term success - not for the sake of bragging about them being in the team for it's own sake.

I've seen all the lean times as a Rovers fan and although this may sound selfish, I want my team to win the Super League trophy more than I would the Challenge Cup.

I'd give my left nut to win the Super League!
Challenge cup would traditionally be amazing but now if you win the SL Grand Final you get the opportunity to be the best club in the world!

Now thats got to be a better thing to show your kids on YouTube.

That is where we differ.

Perhaps if you had to tell 5 or 6 English kids they have no future at the club like I did with lads earlier this season you would be less inclined to want Aussies here milking the sport dry.

If the RFL did something about the likes of Lovegrove then the British kids, local kids, would be swamping Super League.

What the hell does Rhys Lovegrove bring to Super League that Ryan Esders or Rich Beaumont couldn't given some First Team Rugby?

It is a joke.