You really are clueless, with some of your comments.

I thought Quins performance last night was like the one we put in at the Stoop, well drilled, full of enthusiasm and playing for each other as a collective.

We look very tired at the minute, players missing and people playing out of position, for me last night wasn’t a surprise. However we’ll bounce back, keep the faith.

Been saying for a while, we need a couple of players who can offload the ball and keep it alive, teams usually have at least one, we don't have any and as a result our players are not used to that style of play, which results in the debacle like last night when a ball get slipped out of a tackle and the Rovers player (Newton) is caught by complete suprise and fumbles it.

Quins were good value for their win, they play good supportive rugby and keep the ball alive. One player we should have kept is Tangles, he had the ability to get the ball out in the tackle on a regular basis or we could have nipped in for Danny Sculthorpe who does the same. Its all well and good signing top props like Vella and Fozzy, but we need some variation and we are not getting it and are becoming predictble.

I have said I will be happy with 6th and I think thats about all we can hope for as I can see several defeats coming up with our squad not been good enough from 1 to 25, we have a very good 1 to 17, but are bolloxed after that when we have players out. When the announce said what the team was I immediately knew we had lost it.

All a bit harsh for me

Mills played well last week, dropped this week, but I'll give u not really good enough.
Fitz is never a full back and haynes should have played there from the off. Playing haynesvon the wing was an awful decision, I remember brisc playing wing once and looking that bad. Fitz is ok atcwing and average at hooker.
Netherton is a good back up 2 be rower, playscwell there but is not and never will be a prop. Good squad player.
Lovegrove was a stand out player before his injury.
Walker I Agee isn't cutting it.

As for a clear out I think not 3 out 3 in will do.

I have to agree with some of the comments on here, I have watched Rovers first team and Reserves a few times this year, Morgan made too many changes, I think he should have gone with this team.

Haynes
Fitzhenry
Walker
Webster
Welham
Cooke
Dobson
Fozzard
Fisher
Wheeldon
Newton
Galea
Murrell

Aizue
Gene
Netherton
Spaven

Fisher is a must to try and combat Quins made threat from Randall, Haynes is not a winger and fitz is not a FB and that showed last night.

Slow play the balls, no quick passes?

Anyway, rover49 hit the nail on the head regarding the squad depth.

I know you said rovers only, but I will reply anyway.

I said right at the start that playing people out of position would cost you. I know it was Haynes' debut but why play a winger at full back and stick a full back on the wing? That cost you at least two tries imo and then there was the one where Haynes over ran the ball when he would have had a walk in. I'anson too is never a winger and I don't think much to Chev in the back row either. You would have been better with Whelam on the wing, Chev as his centre and start with Murrel at loose and galea second row. I know you had injuries and international call ups but they could have been dealt with alot better imo.

Nothing wrong with the squad depth.

It was the senior players that were the let down last night.

Tend to agree, but still can't knock the effort. Galea and Newton would have given anything for a line break along with others, but more importantly I think Justin let us down last night.

Also, I think a lot of us are discounting we played a good side in Harlequins last night. Nothing flashy, but built up good sets and showed us how to win the game without forcing the issue.

looks like your team are having a dip in form now, was going to come at some point, its how long it takes you to come out of it that matters...the good teams come out of it quickly

we have had ours and now coming good again

I think we got a number of thin gs wrong last night.

First of all I don't think we can play effectively with Galea and Newton playing next to each other.
We had no second row on the left so Jake was having to do too much defence and it also left Haynes fairly exposed.
There is sense in not throwing Haynes in at the deep end by not putting him in at full back but it is his natural position so a decision i disagreed with.


We are pretty light in the front row at the moment and this only gets worse with Fozzard having to play so many minutes. Wheeldon really threw his hat into the ring last night and looked like he could do a real job in the next few games.
As soon as we get Rhys and Vella back as well as a dewcent back line I think we will be back to our best.
We won't finish outside the top 4 imo which, as far as I'm concered, is only a real achievement if we back it up in the play-offs.

People who are soft.

Nothing further needed, grow some or get out of Craven Park

He got stuck in like he always does but he struggled to make inroads imo, as did Fozzard.

At least he gives it a go, there were people out there who looked like they wanted to be elsewhere.
Weak.

You know, I agree.

At least if your getting rattled with the scoreline, show some fight literally and take someone's head off.

Saying that though, if Fozzard would have battered Orr, which he could have done easily, Super Duper league would have given him a lengthy ban.

I think your forwrads got beat, which stopped Dobson and Cooke playing on the front foot which inturn cancelled out Galea and Newton running out wide, which is what they did very well at the Stoop.(Take a breath!)

I'm sure when your players come back you will start winning again

think thats spot on. last 3 games played behind a beaten pack

It is worrying that our pack is getting so dominated in recent games, our line speed for me has slowed right down and our willingness to show any enthusiasm.

Far to much one-man rugby played aswell last night.

and the old adage still rings true , it's the forwards who determine who wins - the backs by how many.

We were poor last night due to the pack been ineffective for the 2nd week running against a small Quins outfit. The kicking game been poor especially compared to the Quins, and giving away to many stupid penalties and piggy backing the opposition up the field.....
All in all BACK TO BASICS!

Does he? Last night was the same situation as Castleford away last season, when Fitzhenry was at full back and Gommersall on the wing, both players being played out of position.

Agreed. From the posts I have read so far, no-one seems to have given Harlequins any credit. They did everything right, nothing flash, nothing too experimental. They are doing the basics right and are not in a flase position. They remind me of Catalans last year and look how they did.

Agree with the mojority of this. Regarding the offloads, we also struggle to defend them. We look terrible in broken play, and attack poorly when we do offload.

I aslo fear our line being broken as we look vulnerable there too. Most of Huddersfield's tries last week were from clean breaks, as were Wigan's when we played them, and we conceed a lot from them. Furthermore, when make a line break ourselves, we don't build on it. When Dobson broke through last night and tried to pass, there was no-one there! It that was Leeds, Webb, Burrows or McGuire would have been under the sticks, similar story when Cooke broke the line (though I appreciate Fitzhenry was carrying an injury).

But my biggest worry is quite simple. We have no Plan B.

I'd swap Welham with Webster but agree with this squad.

Oh, there was. I am sure he saw orange out the corner of his eye and instinctively passed, but it was the referee. Why the hell were we in out away strip and why was the ref in a similar colour, it was madness.