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| Quote ="kim-or-lee"Spaven and Esders? How many league appearances has Morgs given them this season?
However if you look at:
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Stanley Gene
you see 9 of your first-choice 17 aren't english which is what I alluding to. (My mistake for thinking my point was fairly obvious)'" Probably because they arn't ready.
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| Quote ="kim-or-lee"Spaven and Esders? How many league appearances has Morgs given them this season?
However if you look at:
Jake Webster,
Mick Dobson,
Ben Fisher,
Clint Newton,
Ben Galea,
Daniel Fitzhenry,
Michael Vella,
Makali Aizue,
Stanley Gene
you see 9 of your first-choice 17 aren't english which is what I alluding to. (My mistake for thinking my point was fairly obvious)'"
He still signed them and any fool would know that he had to build a squad capable of competing in the SL which requires Quality overseas players as there arnt that many British ones who become available.
When the British players become available he is in for them
Cooke
Briscoe
Fox
Walker
As well as the ones ive already mentioned.
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| Quote ="kim-or-lee"Spaven and Esders? How many league appearances has Morgs given them this season?
However if you look at:
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Mick Dobson,
Ben Fisher,
Clint Newton,
Ben Galea,
Daniel Fitzhenry,
Michael Vella,
Makali Aizue,
Stanley Gene
you see 9 of your first-choice 17 aren't english which is what I alluding to. (My mistake for thinking my point was fairly obvious)'"
You seem to have forgotton Lovegrove who is also keeping out British kids
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| There are no current 'British kids' at Rovers right now that are good enough to take Rhys Lovegrove's place, regardless of his injury.
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| Quote ="hkrloyal"There are no current 'British kids' at Rovers right now that are good enough to take Rhys Lovegrove's place, regardless of his injury.'"
There would be if the need to find some was there.
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| Quote ="Bandito"There would be if the need to find some was there.'"
Precisely.
The players are out there if clubs showed any real desire to look for them. Huddersfield beat Rovers on Friday with only 2 overseas players in their team. Rovers had 7.
Nuff said me thinks.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Precisely.
The players are out there if clubs showed any real desire to look for them. Huddersfield beat Rovers on Friday with only 2 overseas players in their team. Rovers had 7.
Nuff said me thinks.'"
A bit harsh.
Would have been 10 if Vella, Lovegrove and Webster had been available.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Precisely.
The players are out there if clubs showed any real desire to look for them. Huddersfield beat Rovers on Friday with only 2 overseas players in their team. Rovers had 7.
Nuff said me thinks.'"
I keep banging on about it mate but it needs sorting quickly.
Huddersfield and Hull FC need big praise for having the balls to play with the amount of British kids they do.
Other clubs such as Leeds and Saints look towards youngsters as much as they can and Wigan have that production line of youth but still opt for the Austalian when they are in trouble.
Take away the temptation and only allow one and Wigan would blood a youngster.
Given the amount of first team game Lovegrove has had I am sure Ryan Esders would be fitting in quite nicely now.
It is a joke, not only at Rovers but across Super League.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"A bit harsh.
Would have been 10 if Vella, Lovegrove and Webster had been available.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"A bit harsh.
Would have been 10 if Vella, Lovegrove and Webster had been available.
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TBF though Mrs B they had Hodgson, Lolesi and Fulton missing.
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| Quote ="Bandito"I keep banging on about it mate but it needs sorting quickly.
Huddersfield and Hull FC need big praise for having the balls to play with the amount of British kids they do.
Other clubs such as Leeds and Saints look towards youngsters as much as they can and Wigan have that production line of youth but still opt for the Austalian when they are in trouble.
Take away the temptation and only allow one and Wigan would blood a youngster.
Given the amount of first team game Lovegrove has had I am sure Ryan Esders would be fitting in quite nicely now.
It is a joke, not only at Rovers but across Super League.'"
Mate i couldn't agree more with you.
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| Quote ="Bandito"Huddersfield and Hull FC need big praise for having the balls to play with the amount of British kids they do.'"
Not sure it's out of choice in every case, but thanks anyway.
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| Quote ="Bandito"I keep banging on about it mate but it needs sorting quickly.
Huddersfield and Hull FC need big praise for having the balls to play with the amount of British kids they do.
Other clubs such as Leeds and Saints look towards youngsters as much as they can and Wigan have that production line of youth but still opt for the Austalian when they are in trouble.
Take away the temptation and only allow one and Wigan would blood a youngster.
Given the amount of first team game Lovegrove has had I am sure Ryan Esders would be fitting in quite nicely now.
It is a joke, not only at Rovers but across Super League.'"
The galling thing for me is that clubs like mine have put a load of resource behind developing in-house talent in preparation for quotas dropping. The latest gem from the RFL basically says that virtually everyone is classed as fed trained so if anything the number of overseas players in our game will go up rather than down in the short term. This effectively disadvantages FC who've put more eggs in the homegrown basket than many others. It's a complete joke.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"The galling thing for me is that clubs like mine have put a load of resource behind developing in-house talent in preparation for quotas dropping. The latest gem from the RFL basically says that virtually everyone is classed as fed trained so if anything the number of overseas players in our game will go up rather than down in the short term. This effectively disadvantages FC who've put more eggs in the homegrown basket than many others. It's a complete joke.
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Exactly, at Hull there have been some good people doing great work for years bringing kids through, many of which are now playing Championship Rugby, not because they are not good enough for Super League but because they are not as good as the 6/7/8/9/10 Aussies/Overseas in the squad.
If the rules were different some of them would be playing first team for their home town club.
Do Hull KR fans really think life would be that bad watching Iain Morrison, Jon Steel and Ian Hardman pull on a jersey each week?
If the League rules were equal and everyone had to use players like the ones mentioned then surely the National Game would strengthen in the end?
Maybe I am just talking rubbish
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"The galling thing for me is that clubs like mine have put a load of resource behind developing in-house talent in preparation for quotas dropping. The latest gem from the RFL basically says that virtually everyone is classed as fed trained so if anything the number of overseas players in our game will go up rather than down in the short term. This effectively disadvantages FC who've put more eggs in the homegrown basket than many others. It's a complete joke.
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Nice spin Mrs B
Hull did it a) - coz they could (Rovers were no threat) and b) - coz Kath thought she could get local players on the cheap like her hubby does at Leeds. It had nothing to do with quotas.
Hull still spend 2/3rds of their playing budget on overseas players.
That said i still think Rovers just pay lip service to their player development program hence the continual change of coaches at youth level. I think they've had about 6 or more different coaches since they got promoted.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Nice spin Mrs B
Hull did it a) - coz they could (Rovers were no threat) and b) - coz Kath thought she could get local players on the cheap like her hubby does at Leeds. It had nothing to do with quotas.
Hull still spend 2/3rds of their playing budget on overseas players.'"
That is the thing that pee's me off most.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Nice spin Mrs B
Hull did it a) - coz they could (Rovers were no threat) and b) - coz Kath thought she could get local players on the cheap like her hubby does at Leeds. It had nothing to do with quotas.
Hull still spend 2/3rds of their playing budget on overseas players.
That said i still think Rovers just pay lip service to their player development program hence the continual change of coaches at youth level. I think they've had about 6 or more different coaches since they got promoted.'"
The salary cap is £1.6m, 2/3 would be £1.1m. We have Berrigan, Lauaki, Cusack, Byrne, Manu, Tony and Moa. So you are saying they average £152k each, then.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"The salary cap is £1.6m, 2/3 would be £1.1m. We have Berrigan, Lauaki, Cusack, Byrne, Manu, Tony and Moa. So you are saying they average £152k each, then.'"
But add Crocker onto that and it would of been very different mate
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| Quote ="Bandito"But add Crocker onto that and it would of been very different mate'"
Indeed.
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| Quote ="Bandito"But add Crocker onto that and it would of been very different mate'"
But he's not coming and we've not paid him, ask Mr Gekko.
I would be surprised if any of them apart from Berro were on more than £100k, especially Moa.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"But he's not coming and we've not paid him, ask Mr Gekko.
I would be surprised if any of them apart from Berro were on more than £100k, especially Moa.'"
I dont think he was paid was he?
Anyway, we run the risk of a rollocking for talking about Hull FC on the Hull KR/FC Forum so better leave this debate here and get back to moaning about stuff.
Either that or I can do you another Jacket Potato thread?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"But he's not coming and we've not paid him, ask Mr Gekko.
I would be surprised if any of them apart from Berro were on more than £100k, especially Moa.'"
Its the principle.
He would have been here and he would have been earning big bucks pretty much the same as berrigan and he's on huge money. He wasn't getting paid though that is true. The other one is however
Anyway back on topic......Craig Hall is deffo worth signing and i'd be prepared to pay a fee.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Its the principle.
He would have been here and he would have been earning big bucks pretty much the same as berrigan and he's on huge money. He wasn't getting paid though that is true. The other one is however
Anyway back on topic......Craig Hall is deffo worth signing and i'd be prepared to pay a fee.
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Are you bank rolling Rovers now?
Crossland wont be happy, he likes to be the Sugar Daddy round these parts
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