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| Quote ="sgtwilko"didnt see that one as it wasnt the telly game!! but dobsons wasnt as bad as the siants one against wire in last years CC game. that must have been 3 meters forward appossed to the 2ish meters by dobson'"
Oh yeah .....can assure you though it was a corker.
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| It has nothing to do with where the ball ends up or Stevo's stupid "momentum rule", it's the DIRECTION OF THE BALL RELATIVE TO THE PLAYER as it leaves a player's hands.
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| Quote ="j_hunter_hkr"It has nothing to do with where the ball ends up or Stevo's stupid "momentum rule", it's the DIRECTION OF THE BALL RELATIVE TO THE PLAYER as it leaves a player's hands.'"
That is absolutely correct and that is why the Dobson pass wasn't forward imo. Also the ref was in a very good position to judge it.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"a rule that infact doesnt exist and is purley made up by stevo!!
there is no such thing as the momentum rule!! twice guest refs of the touch line show on real radio have been asked about it and both times have said there is no such rule, a pass is forward or its not
the only time a pass is forward is when the ball is thrown forward. end of
kings wasnt!! dobsons was. its clear as day. you can see from the marks on the pitch and where the players were when the ball was passed/received
i know your uset but you will not accept the truth'"
Suggest you actually read the rules mate if you think Stevo made this one up!
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| Quote ="13rovers"Suggest you actually read the rules mate if you think Stevo made this one up!
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2 super league refs have both said there is no such rule as stevo describes it.
you have to take into account players may well be running when the ball is passed but a pass is only ever forward if the player throws the ball forward.
which bit of that dont you get??
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| Quote ="13rovers"Suggest you actually read the rules mate if you think Stevo made this one up!
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Stevo's use isn't correct, there is no "momentum rule" applied to judge forward passes in Rugby Leaugue terms. There is "Newton's 2nd law of Motion" that has to be applied to forward passes, otherwise any passes made at speed would be judged as forward.
As I (and others) have said, it's purely the initial movement of the ball (forward or backward) that counts.
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| Quote ="HKRKid"Truly awesome. One of the positives to be taken forward from this game and hopefully we can reproduce many of those on Friday and in games to come!'"
Sorry to rain on your parade but it was a forward pass from Dobson. Although the main stand didn't bother pointing it out to the ref unlike other passes
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| Quote ="Dawson"Sorry to rain on your parade but it was a forward pass from Dobson. Although the main stand didn't bother pointing it out to the ref unlike other passes'"
Sorry to rain on yours, but it wasn't, I have checked the results on Sky, CEEFAX, Hull Daily Mail and the Rovers website and they all have Webster scoring, therefore it wasn't a forward pass.
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| Quote ="rover49"Sorry to rain on yours, but it wasn't, I have checked the results on Sky, CEEFAX, Hull Daily Mail and the Rovers website and they all have Webster scoring, therefore it wasn't a forward pass.'"
yes it was!! the officials just didnt give it as a foward pass. it happens all the time in rugby league. just like all teams time waste for the drop out restart we all see it week in week out but because the ref dosent give a pen doesnt mean it isnt time waisting.
you can admit it that the ball went foward?? the rfl wont take the try back.
it is possible to discuss the game with an open mind ya know?
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"yes it was!! the officials just didnt give it as a foward pass. it happens all the time in rugby league. just like all teams time waste for the drop out restart we all see it week in week out but because the ref dosent give a pen doesnt mean it isnt time waisting.
you can admit it that the ball went foward?? the rfl wont take the try back.
it is possible to discuss the game with an open mind ya know?'"
whoooooosh
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| Quote ="rover49"Sorry to rain on yours, but it wasn't, I have checked the results on Sky, CEEFAX, Hull Daily Mail and the Rovers website and they all have Webster scoring, therefore it wasn't a forward pass.'"
And Bridge scored too, so neither of the passes leading up to it were forward either
FWIW, I thought Webster's try was superb. Wonderful flowing move everything that Rovers have been this year and everything we haven't.
Just off to wash my mouth out
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"yes it was!! the officials just didnt give it as a foward pass. it happens all the time in rugby league. just like all teams time waste for the drop out restart we all see it week in week out but because the ref dosent give a pen doesnt mean it isnt time waisting.
you can admit it that the ball went foward?? the rfl wont take the try back.
it is possible to discuss the game with an open mind ya know?'"
The ball went forward because of momentum, but it wasn't PASSED forward. What's so hard to understand? Or did you not bother with maths at school?
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| Quote ="rover49"whoooooosh
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whooooooosh?????? i think you need to stop having such a blinkered view pal. im a neutral, i didnt care who won. i just saw it as it was. the pass was forward the ref didnt give it. we all see things the refs miss. because the refs dont see it or give it doesnt mean it didnt happen.
watchd the game not your own team
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| Quote ="j_hunter_hkr"The ball went forward because of momentum, but it wasn't PASSED forward. What's so hard to understand? Or did you not bother with maths at school?'"
the pass was about 2 meters forward!! was a total shocker mate!
its as clear as day
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"the pass was about 2 meters forward!! was a total shocker mate!
its as clear as day'"
Does your breath smell of $hit, because you talk out of your ar$e, if it was (and thats not my opinion) it was marginal.
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| Does it really matter if it was forward or not? The ref never gave a forward pass he gave a try.
It was a great try to be fair, probably the best i have seen this season (well not likely to see and free scoring tries at the KC am i)
A referee doesn't tend to look at the path of the ball they tend to look at the passers hands as it is a better indicator of a forward pass than the trajectory of the ball itself. As many have said a ball at speed will obviously travel forward.
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| Quote ="rover49"Sorry to rain on yours, but it wasn't, I have checked the results on Sky, CEEFAX, Hull Daily Mail and the Rovers website and they all have Webster scoring, therefore it wasn't a forward pass.'"
I like your lateral thinking.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"the pass was about 2 meters forward!! was a total shocker mate!
its as clear as day'"
Just shown a replay on Look North and it actually shows Dobson passing the ball BACKWARDS, no hint of forward at all.
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| Hated the result but what a brilliant game! Best I've seen in ages in NRL or SL.
Had everything that makes RL so special. great tries, great hits, electric atmosphere and game decided at the death.
What a great advert for the game to put on the Beeb. If we had alot more like that the Beeb would be falling over themselves to show RL
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| what a great try, and a great advert for the game. I was watching the game in Germany after watching the FA Cup with some work colleagues, 2 english football fans, 2 germans, 2 nigerians and a yank. when they saw me jumping up and down (none of them were exactly sure what i was watching...) they all came over to have a look. all impressed by the skill of the try continued to watch the game.
shame about the result but the tension (and their endless amusment watching my reactions) meant they thoroughly enjoyed what proved to be quite a spectacle and an excellend advert for rugby league.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"the pass was about 2 meters forward!! was a total shocker mate!
its as clear as day'" And dobson was travelling forward at a greater speed.
As has been stated before go and check Newtons motion laws mate.
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| Quote ="rover49"Just shown a replay on Look North and it actually shows Dobson passing the ball BACKWARDS, no hint of forward at all.'"
first of all pal!! im typing not talking!! and second dobson is well behind the forty when the ball leaves his hands and webster takes it just after the forty line. the bloke is stretching for the ball.
the ball goes forward. dobsons' hands are pointing forward.
forget one reply on LN you can go and watch it again and again on the i player.
your a blkinkered kr fan i get that. as ive said i dont favour either club.
it was just a mile forward.
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| The pass was forward etc............
Momentum etc ..............
The try by Webster was great and so was the one by Clarke, wouldn't like to see them chalked off.
However the linos do seem to miss a lot of genuine forward passes
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| Quote ="Dawson"The pass was forward etc............
Momentum etc ..............
The try by Webster was great and so was the one by Clarke, wouldn't like to see them chalked off.
However the linos do seem to miss a lot of genuine forward passes'"
nor me mate!! its where the game is at!!
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| A great try , one that we would not have been capable of scoring in our previous two SL seasons.
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