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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"My problem was with the fact he said 'assesed him on 80 minutes, how professional' when you didn't even do that.
Whether they under valued yim is up for debate imo, from what i've seen in the derbies he's not exactly being stand out.
P.s. Thanks
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After what you have seen (may I correct you) in ONE DERBY he is not stand out? Like I said, come to see him, he is worth the entrance, and then you may stop talking and grasp what I'm tring to say.
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"Which part do you disagree with?'"
How do you know I don't agree with you?
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| Quote ="Reenyrobin"After watching you a few times this year, and us every time, I beg to differ! It may be only three points in the table, but in terms of playing style and ability as a team, we are far in front of you at the moment.'"
As proved by your drubbing of us in the derby?
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"How do you know I don't agree with you?'"
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| Quote ="Reenyrobin"After what you have seen (may I correct you) in ONE DERBY he is not stand out? Like I said, come to see him, he is worth the entrance, and then you may stop talking rubbish and grasp what I'm tring to say.'"
Which bit do you feel is 'rubbish'?
THREE DERBIES actually
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"Which bit do you feel is 'rubbish'?
THREE DERBIES actually
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Well I was going on this season, as I feel he is now reaching his potential, and the fact we can now fairly assess him after settling into our team. However, swings and rounabouts, I'll give you that one. DERBIES it is.
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"Which bit do you feel is 'rubbish'?
THREE DERBIES actually
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What do I think you are talking rubbish about? The fact that you seem to think Morgan picked him
a) because FC were going to sign him and
b) that he never assesed his play before signing him
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| Quote ="Reenyrobin"What do I think you are talking rubbish about? The fact that you seem to think Morgan picked him
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b) that he never assesed his play before signing him
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b) I never said that, I just contested how you could have assesed him when we where criticised for only watching him for 80 minutes when you didn't even do that.
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"a)
b) I never said that, I just contested how you could have assesed him when we where criticised for only watching him for 80 minutes when you didn't even do that.'"
Are you forgetting that he had 2 successful stints at Wigan and Catalan or just choosing to ignore it for the sake of your weak argument?
We weren't late to the party in signing Dobson, we just weren't busting a nad over it like you lot were.
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| Quote ="j_hunter_hkr"Are you forgetting that he had 2 successful stints at Wigan and Catalan or just choosing to ignore it for the sake of your weak argument?'"
He has dug himself a hole and has no way out. He really is a bright one, isn't he!
We have the technology these days you know Matty, it's called dvd. I'll put a few quid of my money on the fact that Justin saw more of Dobbo than Kath or Jimmy Tool did, only thing is, it didn't cost us the expense of a trip to Aus.
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| Quote ="Reenyrobin"He has dug himself a hole and has no way out. He really is a bright one, isn't he!
We have the technology these days you know Matty, it's called dvd. I'll put a few quid of my money on the fact that Justin saw more of Dobbo than Kath or Jimmy Tool did, only thing is, it didn't cost us the expense of a trip to Aus.'"
Bare in mind that a certain set of fans bought the whole "We, as CEO and Chairperson, need to go to Australia to scout for playing staff" thing hook line and sinker...
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| Quote ="Reenyrobin"He has dug himself a hole and has no way out. He really is a bright one, isn't he!
We have the technology these days you know Matty, it's called dvd. I'll put a few quid of my money on the fact that Justin saw more of Dobbo than Kath or Jimmy Tool did, only thing is, it didn't cost us the expense of a trip to Aus.'"
Irony. Can you not see what I'm saying? How can we be criticised for going to Aus to watch him only ONCE when you had him watched ZERO.
And you know that Kath or James Rule didn't watch him on tape aswell as go to Aus because? I never said your scouting was poor I just questionned how we could be criticised for going to watch him ONCE in Aus when you didn't see him at all. That was all.
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| Quote ="j_hunter_hkr"Bare in mind that a certain set of fans bought the whole "We, as CEO and Chairperson, need to go to Australia to scout for playing staff" thing hook line and sinker...'"
Even better was the Weatheralls going to aussie to negotiate with a top class coach. Only to come back with Peter Sharp
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"Irony. Can you not see what I'm saying? How can we be criticised for going to Aus to watch him only ONCE when you had him watched ZERO.
And you know that Kath or James Rule didn't watch him on tape aswell as go to Aus because? I never said your scouting was poor I just questionned how we could be criticised for going to watch him ONCE in Aus when you didn't see him at all. That was all.'"
Fook me
I answered your question as to why your scouting was poor, you chose to ignore it and come out with more waffle.
And for the second time we did watch him, probs on dvd and in SL games when he played for Wigan and Catalans.
And I never said FC didn't watch him on dvd, I said, I bet that Justin had seen him play more often then the man and the little girl Jimmy Tool.
If your gonna debate with me get your soddin facts straight, it helps.
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| Quote ="j_hunter_hkr"Bare in mind that a certain set of fans bought the whole "We, as CEO and Chairperson, need to go to Australia to scout for playing staff" thing hook line and sinker...'"
You mean like 'we are not going to Dubai as the facilities in Saltend are just as good' hook, line and sinker
2nd in the league and still can't stop discussing Hull FC
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"a)
b) I never said that, I just contested how you could have assesed him when we where criticised for only watching him for 80 minutes when you didn't even do that.'"
So you know for certain that we haven't had scouts watching NRL matches.
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| The truth of the matter is Hull fc seriously undervalued dobson, Hull Kr offered more than Hulls initial offer and at the time dobsons agent came back to Hull and asked if Hull Fc would up the offer cos thats were dobson wanted to play. He was still going to sign for Hull Fc on less money then Rovers were offering until rovers upped the ante again. This was a significant increase on what Rule had offered and Dobson would of been mad not to take the extra 40k a year on offer from rovers. Rovers understood dobsons true value. Now Hull Fc could go out and sign an aussie international scrum half but they would have to pay more than rovers are paying dobson and this international could come over and do feck all like some imports do. As an fc fan i believe dobson had proven super league quality and i mean quality and we should of offered more money for him, there was room on the cap so no excuses. Now fellow hull fc fans i dont want no bull that he couldnt cut the mustard in the NRL(which he couldnt) we dont play in the nrl and for me since he came over here he has been the best number 7 in the league bar none and in his previous stints and wigan and catalans he probably was too. Hull FC are not far off been a good side but poor recruitment in the key position is why currently Hull KR have the upper hand. Now if dobson was black and white the chances are Hull FC could be second, we would certainly be still in the cup. I wouldnt be p1ss3d off and no would our outside backs.
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| Quote ="shagnasty"The truth of the matter is Hull fc seriously undervalued dobson, Hull Kr offered more than Hulls initial offer and at the time dobsons agent came back to Hull and asked if Hull Fc would up the offer cos thats were dobson wanted to play. He was still going to sign for Hull Fc on less money then Rovers were offering until rovers upped the ante again. This was a significant increase on what Rule had offered and Dobson would of been mad not to take the extra 40k a year on offer from rovers. Rovers understood dobsons true value. Now Hull Fc could go out and sign an aussie international scrum half but they would have to pay more than rovers are paying dobson and this international could come over and do feck all like some imports do. As an fc fan i believe dobson had proven super league quality and i mean quality and we should of offered more money for him, there was room on the cap so no excuses. Now fellow hull fc fans i dont want no bull that he couldnt cut the mustard in the NRL(which he couldnt) we dont play in the nrl and for me since he came over here he has been the best number 7 in the league bar none and in his previous stints and wigan and catalans he probably was too. Hull FC are not far off been a good side but poor recruitment in the key position is why currently Hull KR have the upper hand. Now if dobson was black and white the chances are Hull FC could be second, we would certainly be still in the cup. I wouldnt be p1ss3d off and no would our outside backs.'"
Fair comment but to pin Rovers playing success on one player is blinkered, when you consider we have the best second row partnership in Super League as a starter!
As for FC their problems are from the top - down so they will be well out of it until the admin is changed
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| Quote ="bartender"It appears that they were right though doesnt it
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| Quote ="Basil Fawlty"Fair comment but to pin Rovers playing success on one player is blinkered, when you consider we have the best second row partnership in Super League as a starter!
As for FC their problems are from the top - down so they will be well out of it until the admin is changed'" Not saying your a 1 man team which your clearly not, what im saying is you have a damn good number 7 that was within Hull Fcs grasp. i agree we do have problems from the top but with the correct coach and the addition of a 7 we are not gonna be that far away.
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