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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I think the RFL are fully aware of Rovers standpoint on this one from Justin's very public and sustained rant at the press conference:
"It is the Easter weekend. It is difficult for everyone and it didn't help that they were allowed to get away with blue murder.
"I am going to teach my side this week to throw forward passes, stand offside all day and tackle round the head because every time we get him, we get the raw end of the stick.
"If I had a player that wasn't up to standard he gets dropped.
"He needs to spend some time learning the rules and getting in a position where he can understand the game better.
"It is absolutely disgraceful every time we get him.
"He is not up to this standard at all. He needs to spend some time at another grade, just like my players would.
"We turned up with the right attitude but got caned by the bloke in the middle and that is not acceptable in my eyes.
"Next time we get him we know what to expect - a substandard performance."
He added: "There is no excuse for our errors and I am not saying we deserved to win but there is a very common denominator every time there is a poor game of rugby league and that is Mr Thaler."
Of course, he could have made a measured and private complaint instead, but I'm sure the RFL will appreciate this public tirade against one of its officials.
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Thaler (and Silverwood for that matter) doesn't deserve to earn a living from our game.
Ganson, Alibert, Smith and Bentham play what they see, even though they make mistakes.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I think the RFL are fully aware of Rovers standpoint on this one from Justin's very public and sustained rant at the press conference:
"It is the Easter weekend. It is difficult for everyone and it didn't help that they were allowed to get away with blue murder.
"I am going to teach my side this week to throw forward passes, stand offside all day and tackle round the head because every time we get him, we get the raw end of the stick.
"If I had a player that wasn't up to standard he gets dropped.
"He needs to spend some time learning the rules and getting in a position where he can understand the game better.
"It is absolutely disgraceful every time we get him.
"He is not up to this standard at all. He needs to spend some time at another grade, just like my players would.
"We turned up with the right attitude but got caned by the bloke in the middle and that is not acceptable in my eyes.
"Next time we get him we know what to expect - a substandard performance."
He added: "There is no excuse for our errors and I am not saying we deserved to win but there is a very common denominator every time there is a poor game of rugby league and that is Mr Thaler."
Of course, he could have made a measured and private complaint instead, but I'm sure the RFL will appreciate this public tirade against one of its officials.
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Well said!
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| Quote ="Beverley red"I dont like it when coaches start on the ref, but it just goes to show how bad Thaler was to get Justin to rant on as he usualy is very media savy. It would have been better to shut up & go through the propper chanels as the video of the game will show how bad he was at keeping the 10 meters.'"
I know Justin has kept a lot of opinions about Silverwood and Thaler away from the media and raised issues with Stuart Cummins.
It would now appear he's lost patience with the system in place and it's understandable considering some of the tripe spouted from Cummins in the past.
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| Quote ="General Zod."I know Justin has kept a lot of opinions about Silverwood and Thaler away from the media and raised issues with Stuart Cummins.
It would now appear he's lost patience with the system in place and it's understandable considering some of the tripe spouted from Cummins in the past.'"
You lost, get over it. Your coach's diatribe was embarrassing. He's nearly as bad as you.
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| Quote ="General Zod."I know Justin has kept a lot of opinions about Silverwood and Thaler away from the media and raised issues with Stuart Cummins.
It would now appear he's lost patience with the system in place and it's understandable considering some of the tripe spouted from Cummins in the past.'"
Do you REALLY expect a former referee to side with a complaint about a current referee. I would bet that Thaler refs our next match and the appointment will be because of the criticisms against him.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"icon_lol.gif
You lost, get over it. Your coach's diatribe was embarrassing. He's nearly as bad as you.'"
Can't wait until you lot cop for what we got today from a ref, goalposts beware
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"icon_lol.gif
You lost, get over it. Your coach's diatribe was embarrassing. He's nearly as bad as you.'"
Hudds where the better team and were really impressive.
Just had a gut full of Thaler and Silverwood.
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| To be honest, I'm surprised it's took this long for people to realise this about him.
It's happened plenty times before.
He messed us around in the National Leagues too.
Thaler senior must have a word in his ear to his dearest and tell him all about the times Rovers used to hammer his team in the past.
Are we going to get the same reward that Saints got? As in, not appointing him for the foreseeable future games? Daniel Anderson seemed to get his wish when he publicly outspoke against a particular ref.
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| For the record, I agree with rover49, it's mostly the decisions that he doesn't award that is infuriating.
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| Quote ="General Zod."Hudds where the better team and were really impressive.
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Well fair play for saying that at least. However Morgan's rant wasn't very clever. He is experienced enough to know about the poor standard of refereeing and how best to raise concerns.
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| Quote ="rover49"Can't wait until you lot cop for what we got today from a ref, goalposts beware
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Poor even by your standards. Not been on the Hull message board for a few hours I note.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Well fair play for saying that at least. However Morgan's rant wasn't very clever. He is experienced enough to know about the poor standard of refereeing and how best to raise concerns.'"
I've seen enough evidence over the years (including when we were in the National Leagues) to know that Thaler is not an impartial ref.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"i've been impressed with Thaler this season - he doesnt give in to home crowds like most of them !'"
I bet youv'e won every match he has officiated for you
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| Penalty count was extremely low. Mr T hardly gave any penalties and what he gave were correct. He let the game flow - as he has done all season.
I'm sure that you lot are correct when saying that we were offside quite a lot. I'm also convinced that your team were far from angels and were also offside. However, being seated in the £20dump I have no way of telling.
Our holding down waas shorter than most teams - and KR held down just as long/short.
The tackling issue has been all the way to Mr Cummings. Even Boots & All has done a feature on it. Nothing wrong. Absolutely nothing.
From what I have seen of Mr Thaler this season [twice before today he treated us no different to the opposition, & the opposition no different to us. He lets the game flow - none of your stop/start Mr Ganson stuff - ignores the 'minor' offences but pulls up the 'major' ones.
He is by far the best referee I've seen for a long time.
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| vs Wakefield he awarded them a penalty try because "he saw it that sam obst (4ft and a peanut) would have outjumped chaz i'anson (6ft+) to a ball in the air.
vs Huddersfield he was an absolute disgrace to rugby league. How he had the cheek to pull us for offside after more or less EVERY play they were offside. And not one head high was pulled, and I'm not even gonna comment on forward passes, cos I'll be talking forever
These are just two of the matches where he has been woeful, I'd rather have that french ref than him, and that is saying somethin
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| Quote ="Ivor C&G Scarf"Penalty count was extremely low. Mr T hardly gave any penalties and what he gave were correct. He let the game flow - as he has done all season.
I'm sure that you lot are correct when saying that we were offside quite a lot. I'm also convinced that your team were far from angels and were also offside. However, being seated in the £20dump I have no way of telling.
Our holding down waas shorter than most teams - and KR held down just as long/short.
The tackling issue has been all the way to Mr Cummings. Even Boots & All has done a feature on it. Nothing wrong. Absolutely nothing.
From what I have seen of Mr Thaler this season [twice before today he treated us no different to the opposition, & the opposition no different to us. He lets the game flow - none of your stop/start Mr Ganson stuff - ignores the 'minor' offences but pulls up the 'major' ones.
He is by far the best referee I've seen for a long time.'"
Ganson's performance in the derby on friday was hardly stop start, think the only penalty rovers got was a techinical one from the kick off going out on the full. And hull got five I think.
And your last comment is an absolute ridiculous statement
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Of course, he could have made a measured and private complaint instead, but I'm sure the RFL will appreciate this public tirade against one of its officials.
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Precisely.
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| Quote ="Scott_HKR"Ganson's performance in the derby on friday was hardly stop start, think the only penalty rovers got was a techinical one from the kick off going out on the full. And hull got five I think.'"
Maybe that could be down to Hull being very disciplined on Friday??
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| Didn't Morgan say last season that he has not time for people who criticised the refs in public. The he goes on a real cry baby rant about Thaler
Just like Cooke/Rea all over again.
Mr double standards strikes again.
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| Is it just me or are the refs getting worse?
Mr Alibert was again shocking at Saints yesterday, not just in the decisions that went against us but also the decisions that went for us. I literally dont think he knows the rules.
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| Well done Justin for having the balls to say something
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Is it just me or are the refs getting worse?
Mr Alibert was again shocking at Saints yesterday, not just in the decisions that went against us but also the decisions that went for us. I literally dont think he knows the rules.'"
The game is progressing fast but refs seem to be stuck in a time warp.
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| Quote ="psycho"Well done Justin for having the balls to say something
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Its nowt to do with balls, this outburst (reminiscent of his post-match reaction at Whitehaven in 2006) does him no credit whatsoever. There is a time & a place for these statements, and its not in front of the press.
It just looks like sour grapes, and lumps him with Phil Brown in the bad loser stakes.
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| Quote ="Alphabetti Spaghetti Go!"Its nowt to do with balls, this outburst (reminiscent of his post-match reaction at Whitehaven in 2006) does him no credit whatsoever. There is a time & a place for these statements, and its not in front of the press.
It just looks like sour grapes, and lumps him with Phil Brown in the bad loser stakes.'"
No it doesn't, this isn't a regular occurance from Justin and shows that Thaler was an absolute disgrace
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"No it doesn't, this isn't a regular occurance from Justin and shows that Thaler was an absolute disgrace'"
TBF Morgs has blown his argument out of the window by being so public in his condemnation of the ref. It may offer the east stand airheads some crumbs of comfort in defeat but there are certain channels to express displeasure at the referee and it does not include the press.
My guess is that on reflection, Morgan probably regrets saying what he has and though he may have a point, he has gone about it the wrong way. IMO of course.
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