I don't like pointing out the bloody obvious but our backline is exactly the same except for Gilmour (who is much quicker than Talau) and Armstrong (who is just as slow as Meli).

Therefore, how exactly is Saints' backline slower than before?

You don't need to worry about Pryce. He's out injured. As is Cayliss and Flannery. I think Graham may be back. He's in the 19 but that's no guarantee. So we're very much relying on our young players on Friday and of course there's still no sign of the missing Meli (well, he's more missing than he usually is anyway).

Sorry mate, thought you meant compared to Rovers.

Superb thread

Saints probably will score a try from inside there half (they usually do)
It will be a shock result if you beat us and most of you will be as surprised as anyone.See you Friday.

Reading Zod on here is hilarious



You'd think Rovers had finshed top three years running

Saints have still got Internationals across the park.
They have home advantage
History says we will struggle.
You cannot realisticly look beyond a Saints win.

However the team that finished 11th last season ran them close at this stage of the season so there is hope.

I think it'll be like Custer's last stance. 137-0 to the St's

Your getting tiresome.

Here here. Better then the Daily Sport

I dont know why Rovers dont get rid of Morgan and employ Zod, his knowledge of RL is superb.

Zod is Morgan

I actually find his posts quite funny, particularly about Saints.

He paints this picture that Saints have weaknesses everywhere (especially compared to HKR, who seem to be perfect).

I frankly have no clue why this Saints side has finished top the past 4 years, won the Cup the last 3 and only Leeds in this division hold the secrets to stopping us when there are so obvious frailties all over the side that only General Zod seems capable of seeing.

It is a curious thing.

Is there some sort of shame attached to being in 11th in the league

I'm fed up off my posts being manipulated to be something they are not.

1) I have never said Rovers were favourites to win tomorrow night.

2) I said Rovers will have a size advantage - they have.

3) I said Rovers are a far faster side than Saints - they are.

Points 2 & 3 don't neccessarily point to a Rovers win at all because of the multiple reasons Saints have finished top four season in a row.

I was merely pointing out that Rovers should utilise there speed advantage by kicking kicking early in the tackle count to keep Saints out of our half as much as possible to limit their chances and try and create some pressure on them.

At least one part of the post is correct.



They don't champ, thats the problem.




I don't think they are champ, thats another problem.




Multiple reasons not including speed or size? Okay champ, if you say so....




Good tactics champ, still not a cat in hells chance however.

Perhaps we could blame injuries.....it seems to go with the territory of eleventh placed teams.

More at the end of the season than after 2 games

when you've been convicted of cheating the salary cap, when you've played unregistered players, when your an established S.L. club...........it sort of leaves a sour taste in the mouth, but i suppose your used to sour tastes in the mouth!

i thought it was your lot that liked salty ends?

Seen as though you coward away from my question before I'll answer it for you.

Bold indicates the bigger player, underlined indicates the faster player.

Where a player is similar in either size or speed I've chosen not to highlight.

Have a look and tell me which one's you disagree with...

Wellens / [uBriscoe[/u
Gardner / [uFox[/u: Similar in size
[uGidley[/u / Walker
Gilmour / [uWebster[/u Webster on form is faster than Gilmour
Armstong / Colbon: Couldn't say who's faster
Wheeler / I'Anson: Don't know enough about Wheeler
Long / [uDobson[/u
Graham / Fozzard
Roby / [uFitzhenry[/u
Hargreaves / [uAizue[/u
[uWilkin[/u / Galea: Similar in size
ANother / Newton
Clough / Murrell: Both slow players

Cunningham / [uFisher[/u
ANother / [uCockayne[/u: faster than any Saints player
Frodsham / Netherton: Couldn't comment on speed
Fa'asavlu / [uLovegrove[/u

In summary there's only Gidley and Wilkin who would be faster than their opposite Rovers player and on the whole Rover are a bigger side, particularly out wide.

fozzard faster than graham?

Didn't compare Fozzard's or Graham's speed.

Gilmour is faster than Webster imo.

At the end of the day Zod comparing speed and strength is irrelavant is it doesnt purely make a good RL player.